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packman

(16,296 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:50 AM Oct 2021

Norway to hit 100 per cent electric vehicle sales early next year



Norway is on track to bid farewell to the sale of new petrol and diesel-powered cars by April 2022, according to new analysis released by the Norwegian Automobile Federation (NAF).

According to monthly new car sales data released by Norway’s Road Traffic Information Council (OVF), the last internal combustion engine vehicle is set to leave the dealership next April, almost three years ahead of the Norwegian government’s 2025 stated target for the phasing out completely of sales of new petrol and diesel cars.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/norway-to-hit-100-per-cent-electric-vehicle-sales-by-next-year/?rss=1

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
1. With only 5.3 million people,
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

and 3.8 cars, I'm going to guess that adding the charging infrastructure is relatively easy.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
3. Easy as upgrading the electrical system a bit and installing chargers at old gas stations.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

American business is capable of that…easily.

And Biden’s infrastructure plan is on it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,065 posts)
5. The charging station infrastructure is not as large as it is for gas
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:48 PM
Oct 2021

The vast majority of car owners are going to charge their cars at home in their garage or carport. Once range is 300+ as a norm, how often will the majority of owners need to use a charging station? Once or twice a year?

People fill their cars up with gas 2-4 times a month, going from that to charging 2-4 times a year, and mostly near the interstates for long trips is going to dramatically decrease the footprint of charging/gas stations nationwide.

And they'll be charging at night in most cases, during off peak hours for the grid.

People have it in their minds that every gas station will need to be replaced by a charging station, that's simply not the paradigm we're entering into. It will be more like every 10th gas station will be replaced by a charging station while the other 9 slowly go away forever.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. People in multi-family dwellings will need to be accomodated.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:07 PM
Oct 2021

I don't think I'd be allowed to build a charging station in front of my unit.

Johnny2X2X

(19,065 posts)
11. New apartment buildings will be built with charging stations
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:13 PM
Oct 2021

They already are. It will take some time to retrofit charges for some places, but it's going to happen.

For someone living in an apartment building, an EV won't be practical until they're guaranteed a charging option where they park their car.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. Rolling out infrastructure scales with population.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:05 PM
Oct 2021

More people means more infrastructure needed, and a larger pool of labor to build it, and funding to enable it.

MichMan

(11,919 posts)
4. When you tax ICE vehicles 50% of the purchase price and exempt electric, it's not a huge surprise
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:21 PM
Oct 2021

That is what Norway does. Along with a $2.50 per gallon gas tax.

Perhaps our politicians will tell consumers and the UAW that their $50k gas or diesel powered car or truck will have a $25k federal tax imposed and gas taxes are going up another $2.25 per gallon.

Who will have the courage to run on that proposal and get it through congress? Should be really popular come midterms.

Once that happens, we can be just like Norway.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
10. I'm all for electric vehicles, but what about large trucks?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:12 PM
Oct 2021

Do they have electric concrete trucks? What about trucks that deliver large girders for buildings? Semis?
I have a 3/4 ton GMC pickup to haul equipment, sand, gravel, lumber etc. I don't think that those kind
of vehicles can be replaced for some time, and wonder about the future availability of gas or diesel.

Johnny2X2X

(19,065 posts)
12. Those will be replaced first
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:16 PM
Oct 2021

The economic benefits for companies with large fleets of trucks adds up quickly. And EV semi trucks are already being sold and used across the country.

Remember, with batteries, horsepower is easy, it's easy to get 1,000 hp out of a battery, much easier than it is to get it out of a normal engine.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
14. It's amazing how innovations that are possible and long practiced in other nations...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:44 PM
Oct 2021

... are somehow impossible in the U.S.A..

Racism and anti-intellectualism, especially the religious sorts, seem to be the root cause of this problem.

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