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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:45 AM Oct 2021

"The Many Saints of Newark" reminded me sharply of the Trump Organization

My wife and I watched this prequel movie to "The Sopranos" yesterday afternoon. We watched the series and wanted to see the prequel.

As I watched, I noticed parallels between the amoral behavior of the mobbed-up main characters and that of Trump and Trumpers. Behind the seemingly benign faces and normal everyday behavior lurks a violent and deadly anger that can burst out at any moment, and for little to no reason, really. That's true in both groups - the characters in the movie and the vicious, unthinking rabble that makes up the Trump movement.

Such behavior has become more or less normalized across the country. Teachers snatching hijabs off the heads of little girls or removing masks and deliberately breathing hard on a child. Police beating up minorities with no reason whatever. Armed men in fake tactical gear showing up at peaceful gatherings to intimidate and strike fear into those with whom they disagree.

Last night someone shot up a scene outside of a bar in St. Paul, where I lived until recently. Multiple people were injured by gunshots. Why did the gunman shoot? I don't know, but it's bound to be senseless and without any justifiable reason. The gangsters are becoming bolder and bolder.

The climax of the movie, which I won't spoil with a description, solidified the inexplicable, senseless behavior of those gangsters in my mind. We are moving toward such events in our own society, it seems. Prepare yourself for it. That's my advice.

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"The Many Saints of Newark" reminded me sharply of the Trump Organization (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2021 OP
Your comparison just ruined it for me ☹️ shelshaw Oct 2021 #1
Why? I wrote no spoilers. MineralMan Oct 2021 #4
Lol! I only meant that you smeared a good movie with orange feces. 😂 shelshaw Oct 2021 #10
Sorry, but the comparison suggested itself, I think. MineralMan Oct 2021 #13
It was a bit too violent HipChick Oct 2021 #2
Yes, the violence was very graphic and disturbing. MineralMan Oct 2021 #7
the 'would be dentist' scene HipChick Oct 2021 #14
Umm, yeah. MineralMan Oct 2021 #15
I agree with your premise. PCIntern Oct 2021 #3
Well, I thought the movie was a well-done prequel. MineralMan Oct 2021 #5
I understand. PCIntern Oct 2021 #6
I'm not a film critic at that level. MineralMan Oct 2021 #8
Yes, PCIntern Oct 2021 #9
Well, the series had ample time for character development. MineralMan Oct 2021 #12
Thanks for the warning Mossfern Oct 2021 #11

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
7. Yes, the violence was very graphic and disturbing.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:11 AM
Oct 2021

However, I prefer realism to a cartoonish approach to violence. I had to look away, though, a few times.

PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
3. I agree with your premise.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:59 AM
Oct 2021

I was a Sopranos fan. This film, IMO, was devoid of every attribute which made the series terrific.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. Well, I thought the movie was a well-done prequel.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:09 AM
Oct 2021

it informed me in many ways about the general tenor of the series and laid a background for me.

I didn't dislike the movie, and I was a regular watcher of the series, which also created a mostly unsympathetic view of the characters it portrayed, and make clear the conflict between their public lives and their lives as part of a criminal enterprise.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. I'm not a film critic at that level.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:22 AM
Oct 2021

I don't do script analysis or anything like that. I watch the movie and react to it, in one way or another.

PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
9. Yes,
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:37 AM
Oct 2021

Again in my opinion, the beauty of the Sopranos was the communication of the personas via the script and the acting and the verisimilitude of the individuals and the plot. At first, I thought it was very effective to have the people speaking from the grave, but unfortunately was disappointed with the dialogue.

To each his own however and it certainly filled in some blanks.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Well, the series had ample time for character development.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 11:04 AM
Oct 2021

You learned the characters, episode by episode. If the movie was to be able to stand on its own, the characters had to be defined almost instantly, so their characteristics had to be disclosed right away. That's always an issue in some thing that has to be complete in just a couple of hours.

Of course, in this case, the audience comes to the film with a preset knowledge of the general nature of those characters, even though it is about the past. Tony's just a kid, after all, when the movie begins.

Mossfern

(2,487 posts)
11. Thanks for the warning
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:51 AM
Oct 2021

about the graphic violence. I was really eager to watch this because for the past 40 years I've lived in 'Soprano Land' - I'm familiar with many of the locations and part of the series was filmed in my town. We in Essex County NJ can very well relate and I knew many people that mirrored the characters in real life.

I just don't have the stomach for blood and guts.

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