This explains Trump's constant fire hose of chaos.

[Grasswire2]

The GOP is reported to be 25 percent of the electorate.

Trump's share of GOP voters is said to be 44 percent.

This means that he only controls roughly 10 percent of the electorate!

There is zero way he can win a presidential election with 10 percent in his bag.

The constant chaos from him is meant to obfuscate, confuse, to make him seem larger than he is.

And to conceal the facts so that cheating/stealing will produce numbers that seem normal.

He's a loser. 10 percent of the electorate in his pocket? He's a loser.

A blowhard.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Well said! Plus, he enjoys chaos anyway. It works for him. n/t

[GoCubsGo]

4. It's one of the reasons Putin latched onto him. n/t

[certainot]

22. chaos is the authoritarian leader's best friend because it accentuates his royal insane certitude

authoritarians fear uncertainty - it's sometimes measured with the uncertainty avoidance index (UAI)

there is a heritable mostly old world predisposition for that intolerance of uncertainty, often caused by sex on the wrong brain. chaos gives them an excuse to impose order, and their leaders are usually sex on the wrong brain freaks who got so scared they had to learn to reduce the world to absolutes - black white, right wrong, etc and that requires massive capacity to deny reality.

when trump says "i alone" etc (there are a few other things like that he says a lot ), he's creating certitude they all can worship and he's so insane he actually believes it.

that's my opinion of the secret of authoritarian power and i'm sticking to it

[PortTack]

2. Yup ....here's something to add to your stats

[Joinfortmill]

3. Yup, but we need to deal with voting laws.

[hamsterjill]

5. Yes, but you assume he plays fair.

He doesn’t. Neither do the idiots in Congress and governorships and judicial offices that jump when he tells them to.

Look at the redistricting in Texas and tell me they aren’t planning something.

[spanone]

6. and the 'liberal' media does the rest

[Vinca]

7. True - and not to rain on the parade - BUT

it might not matter how small his voting base is. With all the tricks being enacted into law in the states, it might not matter if Trump has a majority or a minority of the votes. Some of the legislatures are going to toss the ballots in the crapper and send whatever electors they want to Washington.

[Grasswire2]

9. exactly

The point is that he cannot win, legitimately.

And so he blusters to make himself look more powerful and bigger than he actually is.

And the minions work to steal it.

[Dan]

16. Question - will the nation accept that?

[wnylib]

45. I hope not. But then

What does not accepting it look like?

[Faux pas]

8. ...

[druidity33]

11. yeah, but...

80-90% of Republicans will vote for him anyway. Who else have they got? Plus you've got 40% of Indies who ALWAYS vote Republican. Regardless of how "independent" they claim to be in polls.

[Lasher]

12. You remind me of myself in 2016.

He had no path to victory, I said.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

20. That's exactly what I was thinking as I read the OP

And again, there seems like no way, but . . . .

[Grasswire2]

21. aw, but you missed the point

He has no LAWFUL path to victory.

He does not have the numbers to win.

And so they lie, cheat, and steal and manufacture chaos to make him seem larger and more successful than he really is.

It's all a charade. But it allows him to steal, simply through sleight of hand and chaos.

[Lasher]

30. I picked up what you laid down.

I just said you reminded me of myself in 2016. It was true when I first said so, and it's true now. A lot of us were stunned when TFG won then. Let's not forget that.

[2Gingersnaps]

46. Seriously, a demented PT Barnum.

He needs a win to beat the clock on prosecution and to pardon his enablers. So far only Cohen, Papadopolous, and Manafort have seen any jail time, unless I am missing some little vermin skittering away. And if I were Cohen and went to jail for paying HIS porn stars I would be pretty pissed.

[twodogsbarking]

14. Never underestimate Tang face.

What he does actually works, for him. Eff everyone else.

[DownriverDem]

15. Why

then are DC repubs so attached to trump? Why are they afraid of their voters ?

[Dan]

17. None dare call it treason....

[2Gingersnaps]

47. Have you seen these rubes on the State House Capitol lawns?

The twit who is now a "patriotic martyr" for bashing through a door to "hang Mike Pence and put a bullet in Nancy Pelosi's friggin skull?" The ones who chase down school children and scream at them because their parents love them enough to choose safety over dogma? The ones who primary life long "Christian conservative" Republicans if they don't go full on bat shit? The ones wanting to kidnap and "put on trial" Republican election officials or Democratic governors? The ones OK with judge, jury, and executioner in the streets for selling loose cigarettes, kicking and beating the life out of DC police? These people think they are Washington crossing the Delaware for Orange Jesus like a demented Thomas Kincaide painting.

[Tommymac]

18. Lenin toppled the Romanov Dynasty using just hundreds of key people.

It's not the size of the coup but the motion of the deception that matters.

And unfortunately the corporate MSM is on TFG's side. They are a loudspeaker that amplifies that already loud 10% minority.

[Kaleva]

27. Lenin didn't come to power until some time after Nicholas II abdicated.

Nicholas II abdicated because of the events of the February Revolution. Lenin didn't come to power until later in the year.

"The February Revolution (Russian: Февра́льская револю́ция, IPA: [fʲɪvˈralʲskəjə rʲɪvɐˈlʲutsɨjə], tr. Fevrálʹskaya revolyútsiya), known in Soviet historiography as the February Bourgeois Democratic Revolution[2] and sometimes as the March Revolution,[3] was the first of two revolutions which took place in Russia in 1917.

The main events of the revolution took place in and near Petrograd (present-day Saint Petersburg), the then-capital of Russia, where long-standing discontent with the monarchy erupted into mass protests against food rationing on 23 February Old Style (8 March New Style).[4] Revolutionary activity lasted about eight days, involving mass demonstrations and violent armed clashes with police and gendarmes, the last loyal forces of the Russian monarchy. On 27 February O.S. (12 March N.S.) the garrison forces of the capital sided with the revolutionaries. Three days later Tsar Nicholas II abdicated, ending Romanov dynastic rule and the Russian Empire. A Russian Provisional Government under Prince Georgy Lvov replaced the Council of Ministers of Russia."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution

[NJCher]

34. Maybe the news people need to see the op

It would have to be documented, of course. For example, where did the figure about the gop being 25% of the electorate come from?

Maybe Rachel would be interested in this and could expand it into a story.

Once she’s done that story, others will do their own take on it. No, not copy it, do their own investigation and form their own angle under this topic.

A few days ago, someone posted about how the current problem with the congressional bill they are trying so hard to get passed was that is only discussed in dollars. Yesterday I noticed that they are breaking it out with bullet points, saying what is actually in the bill.

[SayItLoud]

19. Yep but that 10 % sure scares the crap out of a big % of GQPers in office now. NT

[mjvpi]

23. I find comfort in your calculus, but of 155 million people who voted, 70 million voted for him.

And of those 70 million, the distribution is the problem. That all of them are not hard core supporters doesn’t mean that they will vote D. The red state senators represent so many fewer people than the blue state senators, yet when they vote it’s equal. I see that as reality. Trumps hardcore base consists of many people who wouldn’t normally vote or pay attention to politics. It’s like rooting for a football team to them. Then you add in all the people who vote R simply for tax breaks that are threatening to go away just a little bit under Biden’s agenda. You have a marriage of the stupid and the powerful. It’s still scary as hell.

[Kaleva]

28. Which suggests Trump's influence outside of actually running is limited.

[ymetca]

24. Don't forget

that lots of well-heeled folks knew what kind of person he was when they voted for him.

But their wealth only cares about one thing - keeping it. And if that means voting for Dummkopf Hitler, they will. That's the most scary part of all this.

The 1% is telling us exactly what they think of us, and Democracy in general. They have escape routes, in case the shit hits the fan. We, the hoi polloi, do not.

[2Gingersnaps]

48. Exactly.

They have worked steadfastly since FDR for this moment.

[NullTuples]

25. Nice numbers, but can we even assume they matter w/o voting protection laws?

There are very real reasons the GOP has been manipulating elections since 2000, on an ever-increasing basis.

[meadowlander]

26. A loser, but still dangerous if 81% of the country sits on its ass.

[Evolve Dammit]

29. 74 million (or more) would LOVE to have him as permanent. He still gets more coverage than Joe.

[MFM008]

33. he will do anything

and i mean anything for any kind of attention.

[Equomba]

35. This means that he only controls roughly 10 percent of the electorate!

I haven't a clue as to what this means. Control of the electorate? What percentage of the electorate does Biden control?

According to a Pew Research poll, around a third of registered voters in the U.S. (34%) identify as independents, while 33% identify as Democrats and 29% identify as Republicans, according to a Center analysis of Americans’ partisan identification based on surveys of more than 12,000 registered voters in 2018 and 2019.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/

So what do you do with the 34% who are independents? They vote, you know. And then of course there is voter turnout, not to mention the electoral college, and those who cross party lines.

Please elaborate.

[D23MIURG23]

41. Agreed - there is a faulty assumption in the OP

Its the assumption that no self-identified Independants or Democrats are in the Trump cult.

Between 40 and 50% of the country consistently approved of him when he was president. It may still be true that the number of hardcore Trumpers is smaller than you'd think, but they are numerous enough to be a problem.

[LiberalFighter]

36. That electorate is only small if don't Democrats go out and vote.

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Corrected

[Captain Zero]

38. I think you meant to say if Democrats DON*T go out and vote.

I think. did you?

[Maine Abu El Banat]

40. .

[cstanleytech]

37. I think its clear that he is doing it mainly to rake in cash for his supposed PACs whos

money if I read it correctly he can continue to use for his own personal use in varies ways until he declares himself a candidate.

[Maine Abu El Banat]

39. But most repubs

Would vote for anyone with a R. "I don't like him but at least he's not a Democrat" would be heard far and wide. And with the electorial college we are not out of the trumpian sewer yet.

[wryter2000]

44. That's what we're up against

But if 100% of Republicans are that way, it’s still 25% overall.

[Farmer-Rick]

42. Thanks for that

It puts things in perspective.

The bottom line. The majority of the GOPers don't want Trump to run again

And a huge majority of American citizens don't want Trump to run again.

But you know who does want Trump to run again?

Murdock, Zuckerberg, Koch, Gates, Waltons, Google, Bozo errr....Bezos, and the filthy rich capitalists who own our prisoners for profit system (modeled after China's).

The filthy rich picked Trump, paid to get him elected and protect him today. He is their first choice because he is them. Trump and his filthy billionaire capitalist are the oligarchs and owners of the US. They want them some more Trump. He is them.

[wryter2000]

43. I thought he was higher than 44%

Of Republicans. Even if it was 90%, that would be 22.5%.