Black flag: Understanding the Trumpists' latest threatening symbol

[Shell_Seas]

I posted about the black American flag a few weeks ago on Living Blue in Texas, and the article is continuing to see loads of traffic. It's been referenced in Press Run, Wonkette, and this morning, Salon.

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/12/black-flag-understanding-the-trumpists-latest-threatening-symbol/

"The liberal opinion site Living Blue in Texas is sounding the alarm about the specific meaning of the black flag and the Republican-fascists support for terrorism and other political violence. That post, "Are Your Republican Neighbors Planning on Killing You?", merits lengthy quotation:"

I'm glad people are starting to pay attention to this. I have been writing about and trying to draw attention to extreme right-wing violence for over a year. Although, most of my focus has been on Texas militias. I've been called an alarmist more times than I can count, but what the right is doing and has done is alarming. I only want people to pay attention to what's outside of their own echo chambers and realize that America is really sick right now, and there are a lot of people who are openly discussing violence, martyrdom, and treason.

[Thomas Hurt]

1. Very likely, many of the cultists have convinced themselves that liberals are going to kill them...

put them in re-education camps, the usual paranoid christofascist bee ess. You aren't a fascist unless you know someone is out to get you.

[Shell_Seas]

4. Exactly. And it really all boils down to the vaccination.

They believe that the vaccine changes your DNA to not make you human and the elites are using it to kill off the population. The right-wing echo chambers say that more people have died from the vaccine than actual covid.

There are also rumors now that FEMA is setting up quarantine camps to put unvaccinated people in. It's like Jade Helm 2.0.

[SheltieLover]

15. Gawd they are stupid.

Thank you for posting this. I'd not heard of the black flag issue. I guess I've been too busy trying to unstick the spoons from my forehead.

[Glaisne]

26. They are so extremely stupid

to the point of insanity. Stupid and insane is a deadly combination.

[SheltieLover]

56. Sure is!

[COL Mustard]

54. You Too?

My keys stuck to me in the most embarrassing way the other night. Sheesh.

[SheltieLover]

57. Hahaha

[sboatcar]

38. The problem with that is, why would they kill off all the smart reasonable people

and then be left with only the angry stupid masses? They're basically ungovernable. I think we should start promoting the theory that vaccine disinformation is there to try to kill off people on the right who refuse the vaccine, and they'll line up to get it.

[LymphocyteLover]

39. Yep, that's what I was going to say. They are so fucked in the head.

[reACTIONary]

44. Quarantine camps for the unvaxed? Sounds...

...like a good idea to me!

[2naSalit]

55. Well now...

Those quarantine camps don't sound like such a bad idea for the antivaxxers.

Only kidding, partially.

[hadEnuf]

13. I'm not sure they truly believe all that stuff about liberals, but they sure want to believe it

and that gives them enough justification to do what they want to do.

[HUAJIAO]

19. I think they very well DO believe it.

Many/most of "them."

[hadEnuf]

45. They go along with anything they are told.

One day it's Muslims, the next it's Latinos, the next Asians. RINO's, healthcare workers, scientists, on and on.

Or maybe they do just hate everybody and they haven't figured that out yet?

[Thomas Hurt]

31. They believe it, the brother of high school buddy of mine, screamed it to my friend...

over the phone several months ago, they have not spoken since. Many of them are fixated and fanatical.

[hadEnuf]

51. It really doesn't matter if they truly believe it or not. The result is the same:

Trouble making thugs who are looking to demonize and hurt people using hate and violence.

[mopinko]

49. they probably have a few liberal friends they point to,

just like they do to their one black friend to try to hide their racism.

[EYESORE 9001]

2. Pooty-poot has been supporting secessionists for shits and giggles

Now he’ll giggle ‘til he shits over the success of his scheme.

[YoshidaYui]

3. And here I thought

Black Flag was a bug spray.

[Shell_Seas]

5. Black American flag. Which they should have specified is different than a plain black flag.

[jeffreyi]

6. Saw a different flag yesterday...

Amongst the other insurrection flags. Red horizontal infinity symbol, and arrows, on a black background. Anyone know what this is?

[Shell_Seas]

8. No, I'd have to see it. Here's a flag finder

https://www.flaggenlexikon.de/flag-finder/index_dt.htm

[jeffreyi]

11. I should have taken a picture. Did not want the bad vibes in my camera.

I know, silly. Going by there again in a couple of weeks, if it's there I will get an image.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. Sounds Like The Metis Flag

That's a French Canadian group promoting multi culturalism.
But, that flag doesn't have arrows.
Some have what looks like sun rays, and the background color might also be red or blue.
Not saying that's what you saw, but that flag does have the infinity symbol.

[Hotler]

7. This shit is real folks. Remember their motto. "The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat."?

I've been thinking about these nut jobs for along time. I have all new or newish neighbors around me and none have introduced themselves let alone wave back after I say hi and wave. I keep asking myself which one of them will be the one to nut-up first.

I think we should encourage them to put up their flags and shit. That way we know who and their position. Take two surprises out of the equation.

[Shell_Seas]

9. Maybe they're just antisocial?

Living in Texas, I have avoided for a long time letting the public know my political stance. No bumper stickers, no yard signs. Mostly because I fear vandalism, but in this day in age, I fear worse.

[pidge]

27. I live in MA ,no problems,but what makes you

fear worse? Do you know anyone who has been attacked or harmed in any way?



.

[SergeStorms]

32. The number of threats has been staggering.

Anyone in the public eye, any politician, is subject to death threats to themselves and their family if they don't believe in or support Hair Furror's demented political fantasies.

It's only a matter of time until one of these doorknobs carries through with one of those threats, and then the flood gates of stupidity will open wider than Hair Furror's mouth.

[Shell_Seas]

42. Not personally, but hearing more and more in the news.

On September 10, a man in Texas killed his neighbors because they had a Biden flag in their front yard.

Capitol Police arrested a man near the DNC headquarters with a bayonet and machete on September 13.

On October 1, a man in Texas was arrested after he firebombed the local Democratic Party office.

Also, on October 1, a man in Texas was arrested for stabbing a restaurant manager over their mask policy.

Then on October 5, a man was arrested outside of the Supreme Court. He said, “The time for talking is done.”

This week, a man in Maryland killed his pharmacist brother because he thought he was killing people with the Covid shot.

Those are incidents that have happened just in the last two months.

Source with links: https://livingbluetx.com/2021/10/domestic-terrorist-using-tiktok/

[luvs2sing]

10. We have a neighbor who..

flies a black flag with one blue stripe in the middle. He doesn’t live close enough that we would normally know him or see his activities. Just a house a couple streets over that we pass when we’re out walking the dog early in the morning.

[Thunderbeast]

17. Thin Blue Line flag

Denotes support of police, but sends mixed messages.


https://www.police1.com/police-history/articles/what-does-the-thin-blue-line-flag-mean-2J3500lyyaGueEo0/

[luvs2sing]

21. Interesting.

Thanks for the info!

[SergeStorms]

33. Yet they'll beat those police to death...

if they stand in the way of their lawless insurrection. Somehow this makes sense to them.

[displacedtexan]

50. I saw the decal version of the thin blue line flag on a pickup truck in Lebanon, MO on Sunday.

It was on the passenger side window and had the black stripes running vertically with the blue stripe running down the middle.
How do they explain the black stars & stripes?

[packman]

12. Idiots with their secret words, handshakes, mottos, flags, etc.

Like little boys with their secret clubs (no girls allowed in the treehouse)

[radicalleft]

16. G.R.O.S.S.

see if that acronym rings any bells...

[SergeStorms]

34. The he-man women haters club.

From the old, OLD, Spanky and Our Gang show, filmed in the 40s, if I'm not mistaken.

[NQAS]

14. Got a black flag in my neighborhood

I posted about this a few weeks ago. A house I’m my town, about a mile from me, is flying a black flag.

You gotta be a special kind on nutjob to alert your neighbors that if they don’t agree with you politically, they wish you dead.

[RicROC]

41. maybe it's time for all of us to report to the FBI

anyone's name and address who is displaying this flag. Let the FBI figure out what it means. At least the information will be added onto their database

[HUAJIAO]

18. Thanks for posting this.

We should send this to all our reps...

I seriously question whether or not they fully understand what is happening.... maybe they do and they know something we don't.. but I don't think so....

[mrsadm]

20. My next door neighbor has been flying a black flag

for about 2 months now. I find it very scary and threatening. We only know them to wave hello.

[peppertree]

58. Guess who else uses black flags with violent intent:

ISIS.

[Mopar151]

22. Kings X

Black Flag "Lookin at the world through a 2x4!"

Predates the current wave of idiocy - but nails the feeling!

[Glaisne]

24. To quote from the article:

"It means that they will not surrender, will not take prisoners, and are willing to die for their cause."
Good, so we can kill off these mother-effers if they start something. This crowd has a death wish. Between anti-vax and this, perhaps we can finally be rid of this group and maybe finally progress.

[SCantiGOP]

25. The radical group of Libertarians

used to call themselves anarcho-capitalists. They believe in no government at all, just local councils to enforce “Laws of Nature” like no killing, stealing, etc. They say the penal code would be just one sentence: no one has the right to initiate force against another (this, by the way, would make tax collection or code enforcement illegal acts).
To show this lack of a government, they have an all black flag. There was a group arrested in the 80’s in South Carolina that called themselves The Black Flag Retribution Society.
When they were finally arrested for a variety of charges (they of course wouldn’t let kids go to government schools and wouldn’t cooperate with the State’s requirements for home schooling) they asked for a Public Defender.

[The Fifty Stateman]

28. If they're preparing for war,

shouldn't we be doing the same?

[deurbano]

29. They are selling these on Amazon! Corporations and social media are normalizing

everything abhorrent. How can we combat/survive all of this?! It's so out of control, with the "other side" immersed in a toxic stew of grievance 24/7... and the ones being so manipulated have zero critical thinking skills.

https://www.amazon.com/Black-American-Flag-3x5-Embroidered/dp/B08PB7JXS2?th=1#customerReviews

5 star review:
Wow Factor! Love this flag, couldn't wait to get it!
Reviewed in the United States on January 25, 2021
Wow Factor! Love this flag, couldn't wait to get it & already tons of comments & everyone wanted to know more about it & where I got it.
"The Black Flag was flown by certain irregular Confederate Army units in the American Civil War of 1861-1865 to symbolize that they would neither give, nor accept quarter; symbolizing the opposite of the white flag of surrender."
*Stand up against the tyranny and global agenda!

[Evolve Dammit]

30. They're just waiting for it to start somewhere and get whipped up to kill for the

"patriotic cause" and "The Chosen One." They really want to kill librul scum. POC and LGBT are also hated. There are more than will be believed. I really hope govt has a plan.

[PatrickforB]

35. My paternal ancestors fled Ireland in the late 1840's because of the potato

famine. They came into the country through New Orleans, according to family legend, and ended up in Warrensburg, Missouri.

Warrensburg is the seat of Johnson County, which is near the border with Kansas. In 1858, the border war between KS and MO began, with most in MO being on the slave side, and most in KS on the side of the Union.

My people fought for the Union in the Civil War - my great, great uncle John was in the MO 5th Cavalry Militia, which saw heavy action throughout the war, and my great, great grandfather Patrick was in the 2nd MO Militia and saw action against the Confederate generals Price and Shelby in the 1864 invasion of Missouri.

It was a guerilla war, though - and the number of 'actions' in MO rivaled the number in VA. It was a violent time.

Jesse and Frank James, Bloody Bill Anderson, Quantril - all fought for the Confederacy under the black flag, which meant no quarter.

THEY WERE TRAITORS TO THIS REPUBLIC.

THEY LOST THE LAST CIVIL WAR.

THEY WILL LOSE AGAIN.

[TxGuitar]

63. "THEY LOST THE LAST CIVIL WAR."

Did they though? They seem to have been running things ever since. McConnell, Cruz, Abbot, Graham et al would fit in quite well in the antebellum South and as leaders of the confederacy.

[Hekate]

36. KnR

[SleeplessinSoCal]

37. Has Beto O'Rourke got national help dow there?

Do most Texana want the extreme Abbott governance? Are they really fine with dictatorship?

[Shell_Seas]

43. No, and Democrats vastly outnumber Republicans. We're fighting.

[packman]

40. I remember when Repukes screamed at the flag being "misused" on shirts and such

Now they embrace this disgusting shit

[DownriverDem]

46. Do enough left leaners care?

If they do they will focus on GOTV for the Midterms of 2022.

[randr]

47. I makes for a great target

That is if you are looking for one.

[Historic NY]

48. My new neighbor is doubling down...

the black flag and the piss yellow one too. I won't be bothering with them, like the last ones either.

[lindysalsagal]

52. "discussing" because they saw what the jan 6 action accomplished

Let them talk.

[MzRappy]

59. I don't want to buy a gun

I feel like I’m in a movie with zombies who have guns and wave the flag and wear red caps. And Although I hate guns, a voice I keep hearing in my head says buy a gun now, before they run out.

[GP6971]

61. Believe me, they won't run out.

Welcome to DU MzRappy!

[marble falls]

62. "Before they run out"

[vercetti2021]

60. I've seen them around here

Luckily if they try to push for an armed revolution. They'll kick in the wrong front door. Can't have an armed revolution if you are missing your brain