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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:44 PM Oct 2021

Billionaire ex-Walmart exec says the first 'settlers' of his planned $400 billion city 'Telosa' will

likely be selected through applications - and they could move in by 2030

If Marc Lore's vision comes to fruition, 50,000 residents could be living in a egalitarian utopia by 2030.

Lore, who stepped down as CEO of Walmart's US e-commerce division earlier this year, announced last month that he plans to build a futuristic city known as Telosa. Telosa - which gets its name from an Ancient Greek word meaning "highest purpose" - plans to offer its citizens equal access to education, healthcare, and transportation. Residents will get around in autonomous vehicles and the city will run on renewable energy, Telosa's website promises.

While citizens of Telosa will be able to build their own homes and sell them, the city will maintain ownership of the land itself, Lore told USA Today's Scott Gleeson on Sunday. He calls his vision for the city "equitism" - a mash-up of equality and capitalism.

"The sole purpose of creating a city in the desert would be so it's owned by the community, basically take all the appreciation of the land and give it back to the citizens," Lore told USA Today. "Taxes paid will go back to the city for infrastructure - roads, tunnels and bridges - so everyone would know exactly where their money is going."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/billionaire-ex-walmart-exec-says-the-first-settlers-of-his-planned-dollar400-billion-city-telosa-will-likely-be-selected-through-applications-and-they-could-move-in-by-2030/ar-AAPFdfL

Utopia or pipe dream?
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Billionaire ex-Walmart exec says the first 'settlers' of his planned $400 billion city 'Telosa' will (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
So, where will these people work? Bettie Oct 2021 #1
Most of the states mentioned as possible destinations probably wouldn't want him Clash City Rocker Oct 2021 #2
I envision this guy puttering around town EYESORE 9001 Oct 2021 #3
Holy shit! Why didn't WE think of this?!! ZZenith Oct 2021 #4
Communes in the desert were all the rage in the 60's. Budi Oct 2021 #5
Sounds a lot like Disney's Celebration Florida Under The Radar Oct 2021 #6
My suggestion to him is... Help the poor. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #7
Starting to get scared, eh? Corgigal Oct 2021 #8
Well, it's a creative venture. He's no doubt having fun and Hortensis Oct 2021 #9
One question. Water? CanonRay Oct 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #14
I found it interesting until he said dessert Tree Lady Oct 2021 #22
Will Colin Ferguson play the sheriff again? DFW Oct 2021 #11
SyFy had a few shows I admit to watching at that time. xmas74 Oct 2021 #15
That must be the original American channel DFW Oct 2021 #18
Is Bannon involved in this city? Remember Biosphere 2? sarcasmo Oct 2021 #12
Moab area is calling him. napoleon_in_rags Oct 2021 #13
Yes! Moab! The Desert! Bobstandard Oct 2021 #17
The defaced are people living cars and tent cities. napoleon_in_rags Oct 2021 #24
I'd rather they not ruin the Moab area. Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #23
'Telosa', eh? I guess 'Stepford' was already taken. marble falls Oct 2021 #16
Oh, noQ WHAT???? Socialism...communism?? Say it isn't so. nt joetheman Oct 2021 #19
ah hah, a socialist Villages onethatcares Oct 2021 #20
I prefer organically grown cities. hunter Oct 2021 #21

ZZenith

(4,122 posts)
4. Holy shit! Why didn't WE think of this?!!
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:50 PM
Oct 2021

"Taxes paid will go back to the city for infrastructure - roads, tunnels and bridges"

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. Communes in the desert were all the rage in the 60's.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:51 PM
Oct 2021

Then Charles Manson happened! 😬

That walmart controlled community is the last place I'd live. A little too stepford for my taste, ya know?

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
6. Sounds a lot like Disney's Celebration Florida
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:51 PM
Oct 2021

Which Disney gave up on the idea. There was still problems and there were many more rules as to the standards that your house and vehicles had to be maintained and they were inspected regularly. There was still some crime and the cost was extremely expensive.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Well, it's a creative venture. He's no doubt having fun and
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:10 PM
Oct 2021

musing over input from many genuine experts. After all, there are lots of planned-from-scratch communities in the U.S. alone. This is just more planned.

Assuming he gets the project going, and offhand I don't see reason to assume he wouldn't, its workings and dysfunctions will be of interest to researchers in many disciplines. I wish he already knew where it would be.

Response to CanonRay (Reply #10)

Tree Lady

(11,464 posts)
22. I found it interesting until he said dessert
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 10:48 AM
Oct 2021

Then I immediately thought where is the water for this 50,000 people town?

And I have been thinking for years we need a bunch of cities but in the small red states of democrats, if green jobs, cafes, good health and culture I think democrats would move there. If we continue to vote by electoral system we need this.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
18. That must be the original American channel
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 11:59 PM
Oct 2021

I saw some episodes of the show dubbed into German here in Düsseldorf.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
13. Moab area is calling him.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:55 PM
Oct 2021

Joseph Smith’s original settlers had visions of communal living with central planning, and economically they’ve (LDS) done quite well. But most of UT is empty, and in many areas like the southeast it’s gorgeous to boot. It would be interesting to see other groups with similar economic modes of living come in, I mean with similar visions of planned communities. If they ended up leading in sustainable wealth production, that state could be real economic powerhouse, and over decades maybe swing more toward purple.

Bobstandard

(1,305 posts)
17. Yes! Moab! The Desert!
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:22 PM
Oct 2021

Water? What about it. We’ll have it trucked in from Walmart!

And tell me. How does urban development deface something as stark as the desert? Beautiful, to you maybe. To me, it’s a need waiting to be filled with people! And their needs and wants. Which we can supply through Walmart! And the indestructible world wide supply chain! For we are mighty!

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
24. The defaced are people living cars and tent cities.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:22 PM
Oct 2021

Like you see in major urban areas. Idling to stay cool in summer.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
23. I'd rather they not ruin the Moab area.
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 10:59 AM
Oct 2021

Ruin Lordsburg, New Mexico. Nothing but seedy truck stops and blowing dust and trash. That place could use some intervention. It would be an improvement.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
20. ah hah, a socialist Villages
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 07:29 AM
Oct 2021

except for Mr. RichieRich.

Do you think the company grocery store will be a Safeway or that big blue onee?



sounds like resident owned mobile home parks in sunny Floriduh. Now get that pos off our land.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
21. I prefer organically grown cities.
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 09:49 AM
Oct 2021

The HOA in this place is going to be hellish.

Any wealthy asshole or con man can develop a city on previously undeveloped desert or wetlands, and many assholes have.

Improving existing cities and high density suburbs without the usual racism disguised as "gentrification" or "redevelopment" is the way to go.

That requires feet-on-the-streets activism, good jobs paying comfortable living wages for everyone who can work, and a strong social safety net for those who are unable to work.

Billionaires are the least likely people to save the world. Most of them are fucking clueless. Too many are fascists.

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