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What was really being planned at the Willard Hotel before the January 6th insurrection? (Original Post) FelineOverlord Oct 2021 OP
They were conspiring with the Proud Boys, the 3%'ers, and others kentuck Oct 2021 #1
Someone funded this, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #16
Who bought all that liquor sitting on the table? Cracklin Charlie Oct 2021 #24
Follow the money, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #2
Got a good guess of who the Sponsors are. Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #67
Every time I see Bannon, I think "flea bath." Nt spooky3 Oct 2021 #84
Holy wow! I hadn't heard anything about pnwest Oct 2021 #3
You said it! Delphinus Oct 2021 #21
Same here! I'm so happy! nt LittleGirl Oct 2021 #45
If you followed Seth Abramson, you would have known months ago. Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #77
To quote George Templeton Strong from the Civil War era Best_man23 Oct 2021 #4
Anytime I hear the word "Willard", i think of the movie about the rat... kentuck Oct 2021 #10
The movie Ben and the Remake Best_man23 Oct 2021 #15
Sound by Michael Jackson. Marcuse Oct 2021 #56
It has been reported since March... druidity33 Oct 2021 #71
KnR... for visibility MiHale Oct 2021 #5
K&R 2naSalit Oct 2021 #6
What was really being planned at the Willard Hotel before the January 6th insurrection? FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #7
Follow the money. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #13
The heiress to the Publix fortune radical noodle Oct 2021 #47
What was really being planned at the Willard Hotel before the January 6th insurrection? FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #8
A well 'organized' coup. Nothing less. spanone Oct 2021 #9
SuperMax prison. NCjack Oct 2021 #27
This is only a hunch on my part, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #11
Think how dangerous they could be multigraincracker Oct 2021 #12
K&R IrishAfricanAmerican Oct 2021 #14
Omg, this could light a fire under Merrick Garland!!! BeyondGeography Oct 2021 #17
Why is it that when we find out this stuff, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #19
Pretty sure kirkuchiyo Oct 2021 #23
I might add, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #34
The DOJ Haggard Celine Oct 2021 #73
The DOJ doesn't have to do any work, they just need to bring in Seth Abramson Poiuyt Oct 2021 #70
Hopefully our DOJ gab13by13 Oct 2021 #18
Have to give Liz Cheney credit, gab13by13 Oct 2021 #20
Like, calls weren't also being placed with: NCDem47 Oct 2021 #22
I'm still waiting to find out gab13by13 Oct 2021 #25
Liz Cheney, "Trump appears to have been 'personally involved in planning and execution of Jan 6 .... Botany Oct 2021 #26
Dear DOJ: "Just say the election is corrupt...leave the rest to me." BeyondGeography Oct 2021 #29
Subpoena the records from the Willard Hotel and find out who paid for the rooms world wide wally Oct 2021 #61
We know Shitler was in charge of the insurrection because they went home when he told them to. OMGWTF Oct 2021 #85
Republican traitors were well funded, well organized Champp Oct 2021 #28
"Republican traitors were well funded*, well organized." Botany Oct 2021 #33
The Koch foundation and foreign money. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #36
Don't forget Sheldon and Miriam Adelson. nt pazzyanne Oct 2021 #75
It is so time Nikki28 Oct 2021 #30
So how long do you think gab13by13 Oct 2021 #37
Conspiracy to commit sedition; malice aforethought Mr. Ected Oct 2021 #31
cant they be arrested Nikki28 Oct 2021 #32
Yeah, I seem to remember gab13by13 Oct 2021 #38
The DOJ APPOINTING a special prosecutor Captain Zero Oct 2021 #68
I thought there was a mtg at the trump hotel? themaguffin Oct 2021 #35
There was Danascot Oct 2021 #40
Kudos to Seth. Waaay out in front. nt wiggs Oct 2021 #39
Yes, it needs to be repeated that the deep dive of docs was done by Seth. Nt Ninga Oct 2021 #42
Yes, Seth was talking about it months ago. FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #50
which brings up the question: why haven't those planning meetings been more widely investigated, wiggs Oct 2021 #58
This lawyer, John Eastman. gab13by13 Oct 2021 #41
Has he been subpoenaed? kentuck Oct 2021 #49
Firstly, thanks for the information. It is major reason that I support this site. olegramps Oct 2021 #43
War room??? Are they Levying war against US democracy? Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #44
Dumbest fucking criminals evah Aviation Pro Oct 2021 #46
Maybe because they know they are white, rich, and powerful... and that nothing will be done to stop Justice matters. Oct 2021 #51
K&R UCmeNdc Oct 2021 #48
That guy at the end of the reel looks sick. He knows it's game over for the Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #52
I hope they have subpoenaed Flynn's brother malaise Oct 2021 #53
Kickety kick! tanyev Oct 2021 #54
these fuckers really thought they were going to pull this off Skittles Oct 2021 #55
Will Garland's DOJ look at ANY of this? lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #57
Thugs in suits, designer jeans, and fleece coats are still thugs bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #59
I bet that room stank by the end of that mess. sunonmars Oct 2021 #60
Willard Hotel. How appropriate. peppertree Oct 2021 #62
And.... Snackshack Oct 2021 #63
Seth Abramson has been on this for awhile Crataegus Oct 2021 #64
yep, Seth Abramson was first with this story, and still digging. Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #76
Seth has been working from posted photos. summer_in_TX Oct 2021 #78
"curatorial journalism" Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #79
He's devoted his full self to gathering the evidence. summer_in_TX Oct 2021 #80
It's all right out in the open. No attempt to hide any of it. Sedition. With the obvious lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #65
The Willard Hotel is a very expensive hotel FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #66
K&R. nt Wednesdays Oct 2021 #69
"What was really being planned at the Willard Hotel before the January 6th insurrection?" tblue37 Oct 2021 #72
Hope we find evidence to lock all these scum up for good SunImp Oct 2021 #74
Kick! love_katz Oct 2021 #81
'Civil' war elleng Oct 2021 #82
Interesting that they weren't staying at the Trump Hotel. Nt spooky3 Oct 2021 #83
is that Robert Hyde THIS Robert Hyde Skittles Oct 2021 #86
Yes malaise Oct 2021 #87
Yes malaise Oct 2021 #88
haha he sounds like one piece of work Trump whore Skittles Oct 2021 #90
EXPOSED: Schmucks on Parade. calimary Oct 2021 #89
The Willard Hotel "war room" FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #91
The Washington Post is finally on it FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #92

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
16. Someone funded this,
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:24 AM
Oct 2021

DOJ needs to go after them, hopefully they don't need a referral from the select committee.

Kid Berwyn

(14,965 posts)
67. Got a good guess of who the Sponsors are.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:43 PM
Oct 2021


The super de-dooper richest of the rich richest, a group who include some of the planet’s most powerful criminal organizations.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
3. Holy wow! I hadn't heard anything about
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 07:54 AM
Oct 2021

the war room at the Willard! This is shocking. Treasonous traitors, every last one of them.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
77. If you followed Seth Abramson, you would have known months ago.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:52 PM
Oct 2021

Lotta people here diss him, for some reason.

But he got the goods.

Best_man23

(4,907 posts)
4. To quote George Templeton Strong from the Civil War era
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:09 AM
Oct 2021

"Beelzebub surely reigns here, and Willard's Hotel is his temple."

This is the first I've heard of this "war room."

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
10. Anytime I hear the word "Willard", i think of the movie about the rat...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:19 AM
Oct 2021

There were surely some rats at the Willard Hotel.

druidity33

(6,447 posts)
71. It has been reported since March...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 07:20 PM
Oct 2021

Seth Abramson has been all over this. He gets poo-pooed here on DU a lot.



radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
47. The heiress to the Publix fortune
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:19 AM
Oct 2021

gave $150,000. That's been reported by WaPo. The WSJ reported that she pledged $300,000... the majority of the funding for the rally. That's just casual searching.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
11. This is only a hunch on my part,
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:20 AM
Oct 2021

I believe that Steve Pieczenik is part of the brain trust behind the coup. Back in the 2016 election I got to watching his videos on You Tube, back then he was saying things like, Hillary is planning a coup so we must run a counter coup. He is a friend of Alex Jones and has appeared on Infowars. As I said I have no proof of his involvement except for what he has been posting on You Tube. He was a hostage negotiator, he is a very smart person, he knows how to control the narrative, how to control people's minds.

When I saw that his friend Alex Jones was at this hotel it brought back my thoughts on Pieczernik.

kirkuchiyo

(402 posts)
23. Pretty sure
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:47 AM
Oct 2021

the DOJ isn't supposed to comment on ongoing investigations. Whereas that is the journalists job to report on what they find.

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
70. The DOJ doesn't have to do any work, they just need to bring in Seth Abramson
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 06:50 PM
Oct 2021

He has everything laid out and documented.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
20. Have to give Liz Cheney credit,
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:43 AM
Oct 2021

for exposing this yesterday. She even claimed Trump's involvement. Have to also give the chairman credit for pushing the follow the money narrative. Who funded this?

Gee, I hope this doesn't give the coup planners a heads up to the fact that they are being investigated. Maybe this information should have been kept quiet? (sarcasm)

NCDem47

(2,250 posts)
22. Like, calls weren't also being placed with:
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:46 AM
Oct 2021

Capital Police, Department of Defense, elected Republican officials.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
25. I'm still waiting to find out
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:57 AM
Oct 2021

about who gave the traitors Capitol tours? Who disabled the panic buttons on the desks? Is it too soon?

Botany

(70,587 posts)
26. Liz Cheney, "Trump appears to have been 'personally involved in planning and execution of Jan 6 ....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:00 AM
Oct 2021

insurrection."

No shit. Trump:

Helped to pay for it.

Gave out over a dozen invitations to the violence in which he gave the day, the date, the time, and the place.

Had his chief of staff Nick Mulvaney's niece fill out the paper work for the permit for his pre-riot pep talk.

Told the crowd to go and storm the Capitol so as to protect America's freedoms.

Fired Sec. of Defense Mark Esper and installed Christopher Miller who gave stand down orders to the D.C.
National Guard on 1/4/21.

Refused to call of his supporters when asked to do so from Rep. McCarthy and V.P. Pence.

Watched the violence and chaos on T.V. and did nothing.

Knew of planning sessions for the violence in 2 different D.C. Hotels.

And at the end of the day let the violent thugs walk away and told them that he loved them and was
proud of them. President Trump’s Chilling Message to Violent Mob Overtaking Capitol: "Go Home. We Love You, You’re
Very Special."

https://variety.com/2021/politics/news/trump-protesters-riot-capitol-video-1234879939/


*********

What Trump was looking for on 1/6/21 was to have so much violence up to and including the muder
of Speaker Pelosi & Vice President Pence so he could declare martial law and stop the Constitutionally
mandated transfer of power.

OMGWTF

(3,976 posts)
85. We know Shitler was in charge of the insurrection because they went home when he told them to.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:21 AM
Oct 2021

Period.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
28. Republican traitors were well funded, well organized
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:05 AM
Oct 2021

as they planning to shit and piss on America and American democracy.

Lock the Republican traitors up.

Botany

(70,587 posts)
33. "Republican traitors were well funded*, well organized."
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:16 AM
Oct 2021

* The Trump campaign, Jenny Thomas, and Rebekah Mercer.

pazzyanne

(6,557 posts)
75. Don't forget Sheldon and Miriam Adelson. nt
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 07:49 PM
Oct 2021

According to Wikipedia:

"Adelson sat out the 2016 Republican primaries, with some early indicators at the beginning of 2016 interpreted as showing that Adelson favored Trump.[109] In May 2016, explaining his reasons for officially endorsing Donald Trump's presidential bid, Adelson cited the importance of CEO experience in a presidential nominee.[103]

For the 2018 United States elections, Adelson donated approximately $113 million to the Republican Party through various conservative political action committees.[110]

On January 31, 2019, ABC News reported that Adelson and his wife Miriam had contributed $500,000 to the Patriot Legal Expense Fund Trust, which was set up in 2018 to assist aides of President Trump under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. The contributions are the Trust's largest to date.[111]

It was estimated Adelson would donate $200 million to Trump and the GOP for the 2020 election cycle.[17] Given a call to Adelson by Trump in early August complaining that Adelson had not done enough for him, there was speculation that the amount of a donation could be affected.[112] On October 15, 2020, Adelson gave $75 million to a Trump PAC, in a late push for reelection.[113] In the second half of October 2020, Adelson and his wife gave a further $35 million to three super-PACs supporting the Republican Party and Trump's re-election.[114] PACs to which the Adelsons donated in the 2020 cycle included Preserve America and the Senate Leadership Fund.[115]"

Aside: Sheldon Adelman died in January of this year, but the PACs he and his wife suppoet live on.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
30. It is so time
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:14 AM
Oct 2021

to stop letting these crooks get away with this mess. If this is swept under the rug, then the USA is no more.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
31. Conspiracy to commit sedition; malice aforethought
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:15 AM
Oct 2021

Cause and effect.

If we're truly a nation of laws and not just a nation of jaws, these treasonous swine need to be brought swiftly to justice.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
32. cant they be arrested
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:16 AM
Oct 2021

or can they call in Muller old team to kick start this. We need a special Prosecutor.

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
38. Yeah, I seem to remember
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:24 AM
Oct 2021

when AG Bill Barr created a special prosecutor, John Durham, to investigate the Trump/Russia investigation. He also did it in aa way that it couldn't be retracted. If Barr had this authority surely Garland has the same authority.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
68. The DOJ APPOINTING a special prosecutor
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:47 PM
Oct 2021

Would mess up the Republicans if they win the next Congress. The Special prosecutor would only be done on his time table, not ending upon an intervening election.

Danascot

(4,694 posts)
40. There was
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:37 AM
Oct 2021

This article is a good summary naming the people who were there. The reporting is based on information put together by Seth Abramson. Seth had all this before the end of January.

https://www.ibtimes.sg/did-trump-officials-senators-hold-pre-insurrection-meeting-trump-hotel-before-capitol-riots-55184

FelineOverlord

(3,591 posts)
50. Yes, Seth was talking about it months ago.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:36 AM
Oct 2021

No one else really was.

Seth is a controversial figure, so I thought they were just ignoring what he said. I admit that sometimes I don't read Seth for weeks.

However, it really stuck with me and really bothered me and every few days I would check to see if anything was happening about this.

It was mentioned in previous articles about Steve Bannon, but nobody really paid much attention to the Willard Hotel conferences, despite that the guilty parties didn't really hide it.

Finally, attention is being paid.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
58. which brings up the question: why haven't those planning meetings been more widely investigated,
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:29 PM
Oct 2021

reported on, and discussed in msm? and by dem leaders?

keeping powder dry again?

gab13by13

(21,408 posts)
41. This lawyer, John Eastman.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:54 AM
Oct 2021

the guy who wrote out the coup step by step, why hasn't he been disbarred yet for starters? He has formed another company and is continuing to push the big lie and the insurrection. Why can't the FBI take some of his time away from planning the next insurrection?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
49. Has he been subpoenaed?
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:26 AM
Oct 2021

He seemed to be in the middle of it all.

And he was reportedly the author of the Six Points for a successful coup.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
43. Firstly, thanks for the information. It is major reason that I support this site.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:55 AM
Oct 2021

The major issue for me is will those who actually engineered the insurrection be held accountable. It seems to me that we have an ton of information, yet to date little accountability. I don't mean to be critical, but our system's determination to protect the innocent can be misused to escape any punitive action. This is especially true for those with deep pockets. It results in an uneven application of law and punishment.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
44. War room??? Are they Levying war against US democracy?
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:58 AM
Oct 2021

They weren't running a war. They were planning to overthrow US democracy and put in King Trump instead.

It's more like a den of traitors then a war room. But that said they do meet all the requirements for levying war against the United States.

I think there is enough evidence to indicate that Trump and his fellow insurrectionists were levying war against the United States.

"There are two ways to commit treason: levying war against the government or providing aid or comfort to the enemy.

Levying War
Levying war isn't limited to formally declaring war. It includes any forcible opposition to the execution of a public law. Such "forcible opposition" ordinarily requires actual use of force by multiple people with the common purpose of preventing some law from being enforced. Weapons aren't always required; sheer numbers can be enough.

Merely conspiring to overthrow the government isn't levying war—there must be an actual assemblage of people who are ready and intend to use force. So, no person acting alone can be guilty of levying war."

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/treason.htm

The link further outlines the requirements for levying war and this combined with the attack meet all the requirements for Treason. This is out and out Treason.

Aviation Pro

(12,187 posts)
46. Dumbest fucking criminals evah
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:05 AM
Oct 2021

Who the fuck videos the planning and staging of a coup?

Fucking morons, that's who.

Also, yet another 'W' hotel in Washington that join the anals (misspelling intended) of the Watergate.

Justice matters.

(6,941 posts)
51. Maybe because they know they are white, rich, and powerful... and that nothing will be done to stop
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:44 AM
Oct 2021
them? To hold them accountable for their crimes, and treasonous actions?

At this point, looking forward to what? The end of the Rule Of Law? The next overthrow attempt to be successful?

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
52. That guy at the end of the reel looks sick. He knows it's game over for the
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:41 AM
Oct 2021

revolution because the national guard was called in.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
55. these fuckers really thought they were going to pull this off
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 03:42 PM
Oct 2021

and they have the NERVE they call themselves PATRIOTS

bucolic_frolic

(43,296 posts)
59. Thugs in suits, designer jeans, and fleece coats are still thugs
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:47 PM
Oct 2021

Somebody was trying to thread the needle but there were too many unpredictable parts and not enough brainpower. Which you'd kind of expect.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
63. And....
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:20 PM
Oct 2021

According to Sydney Powell the entire objective that day was to delay congress certification of the election. So that a lawsuit could be brought before the SCOTUS Justice Alito was aware and waiting for this.

https://www.newsweek.com/sidney-powell-drags-justice-samuel-alito-supreme-court-january-6-mess-1632896?amp=1

Crataegus

(60 posts)
64. Seth Abramson has been on this for awhile
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:27 PM
Oct 2021

I hope this helps to expose these bastards.
They need to pay for their betrayal.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
76. yep, Seth Abramson was first with this story, and still digging.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 08:45 PM
Oct 2021

Kudos.

When Liz Cheney mentioned the war meeting at the Willard, I said "Seth Abramson" to myself.

We wouldn't have already known this without his persistence.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
78. Seth has been working from posted photos.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:34 PM
Oct 2021

He's been doing the painstaking work of matching snippets of wallpaper, lampshades, and furniture in the photos to add to the list of those who were present at the Willard on the 5th and 6th.

Senators are on the list too, including Tuberville.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
80. He's devoted his full self to gathering the evidence.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 09:44 PM
Oct 2021

To the detriment of other aspects of his life and livelihood.

lindysalsagal

(20,733 posts)
65. It's all right out in the open. No attempt to hide any of it. Sedition. With the obvious
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 05:31 PM
Oct 2021

cast and crew. No surprises here. Lock them all up.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
72. "What was really being planned at the Willard Hotel before the January 6th insurrection?"
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 07:24 PM
Oct 2021

Why, the January 6th insurrection, of course.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
89. EXPOSED: Schmucks on Parade.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 04:26 PM
Oct 2021

Wish we could just drop a net on the whole miserable lot of 'em and then empty the net into prison.

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