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How do I say this? I am less than fully confident about the VA gubernatorial race. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2021 OP
New Jersey too. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2021 #1
We have a much bigger polling cushion in New Jersey. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2021 #4
Yeah? BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2021 #6
I think the media is doing everything they can to say it's close. rogue emissary Oct 2021 #2
I hope you're right. T-Mac started with a huge lead DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2021 #3
I'm one reputable poll away from panicking about VA Amishman Oct 2021 #5
I am very worried. If I am badly wrong then I will welcome the ridicule, but for this to be so close hlthe2b Oct 2021 #7
These days, every election makes me nervous. PTSD from 2016. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #8
I live in the DC metro area and have spent quite a bit of time in VA recently. honest.abe Oct 2021 #9
I used to live down there and have friends in the area Amishman Oct 2021 #13
Voters who have voted prefer McAuliffe by 24 points mcar Oct 2021 #10
Wow! honest.abe Oct 2021 #11
It has not been pointed out enough that the latest poll showing them in a tie is from trafalgor! PortTack Oct 2021 #15
+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #21
given that early vs election day voting has even turned into a partizan issue Amishman Oct 2021 #12
The keys words are "Voters who have voted" Polybius Oct 2021 #20
As I said a month ago... brooklynite Oct 2021 #14
I hope you're right DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2021 #18
Come again? nt Carlitos Brigante Nov 2021 #23
Here is a thing to remember Bettie Oct 2021 #16
If this is where we are in this country after everything that has AJT Oct 2021 #17
We need to keep up on GOTV efforts LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #19
I'm not feeling great about it either, especially after watching Rachel last night. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #22

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
6. Yeah?
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:13 PM
Oct 2021

I was looking at polls today and it’s within the margin of error with the jackass Тяцмрsтег gaining. Murphy was up big a month ago.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
2. I think the media is doing everything they can to say it's close.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:01 PM
Oct 2021

The stats for early voting look good and McAuliffe is hitting the same poll numbers as Northam.

I'm more worried about state house and senate seats. The red areas are getting redder and the truly toss-up areas are shrinking.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
5. I'm one reputable poll away from panicking about VA
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:07 PM
Oct 2021

The numbers with independents in particular have me really alarmed.

hlthe2b

(102,343 posts)
7. I am very worried. If I am badly wrong then I will welcome the ridicule, but for this to be so close
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:21 PM
Oct 2021

is unnerving as hell.

honest.abe

(8,684 posts)
9. I live in the DC metro area and have spent quite a bit of time in VA recently.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:32 PM
Oct 2021

I don’t feel confident either. Younkin has run a ‘smart’ campaign and has ads everywhere. Also it seems Dem voters are not as engaged as they need to be. I think they don’t see the crisis nature of this election like the California recall. I’m hoping something can turn the momentum.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
13. I used to live down there and have friends in the area
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:07 PM
Oct 2021

The impression I get from the few I still talk to, is that Youngkin has used social issues around schools as a wedge to break off a significant chunk of independents who are less liberal on social issues.

It also doesn't help that inflation concerns are ramping up, making the prospect of a large infrastructure spending bill less favorable than it would normally be. I really think we need to communicate better about how Build Back Better is not funded by 'printing money' and will not exacerbate the current inflation issues.

mcar

(42,372 posts)
10. Voters who have voted prefer McAuliffe by 24 points
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:37 PM
Oct 2021

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im chuckling bc raise yr hand if you never heard this recent fact abt Va Gov race.

via CBS News poll: "Voters who have already voted prefer McAuliffe by 24 points"

honest.abe

(8,684 posts)
11. Wow!
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:45 PM
Oct 2021

That is much bigger than I had expected given all the recent polling. Sounds like Dem voters got the message they need to show up.

PortTack

(32,788 posts)
15. It has not been pointed out enough that the latest poll showing them in a tie is from trafalgor!
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:22 PM
Oct 2021

Total RWNJ group!!

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
21. +1
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 03:30 AM
Oct 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafalgar_Group

The Trafalgar Group is an opinion polling and survey company founded by Robert Cahaly and based in Atlanta, Georgia. It first publicly released polls in 2016. The company has tended to produce polls that show more support for Trump than other pollsters do. Since successfully predicting the result of the 2016 presidential election, its polling has been less accurate.

The company says it utilizes methods to increase the weighting of so-called "shy, pro-Trump" voters which they argue to be underrepresented in most polls. The company does not disclose its methods.



Robert Cahaly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cahaly

Cahaly has worked on campaigns for various Republicans, including governors Carroll Campbell, David Beasley, Mike Huckabee, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, and Henry McMaster; US Senators Strom Thurmond, Bob Dole, Tim Scott, and Ben Sasse; and Presidents George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump.

On November 3, 2010, Cahaly was arrested by the State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) and charged with making illegal robocalls. Cahaly denied any wrongdoing, stating "It is sad and disappointing that in this charged election cycle full of last minute surprise attacks that Democrat Incumbents and power brokers are leveraging all of their influence to create a last minute salacious headline. We are apparently today's target." The charges were subsequently dismissed in October 2012. After the charges were dropped, Cahaly filed suit against SLED officials, claiming his constitutional right to free speech had been violated. The subsequent decision of Cahaly v. LaRosa found the anti-robocall statute was a content-based restriction on speech and therefore unconstitutional, which defended the right of Cahaly to make robocalls.



Amishman

(5,559 posts)
12. given that early vs election day voting has even turned into a partizan issue
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:03 PM
Oct 2021

this fails to calm me.

Polybius

(15,470 posts)
20. The keys words are "Voters who have voted"
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 01:08 AM
Oct 2021

Republicans don't like early voting, so this is no surprise.

brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
14. As I said a month ago...
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:11 PM
Oct 2021

"People will panic about the VA-GOV race for the next month. Then McAuliffe will win".

Bettie

(16,121 posts)
16. Here is a thing to remember
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:23 PM
Oct 2021

there are a greater number of Republicans who are eager to vote, per the polls.

However, what percentage of the electorate are Republicans?

What percentage are Democrats?

I think we'll win.

Also: polling relies on people who still answer their phones when they don't know who is on the other end.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
17. If this is where we are in this country after everything that has
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:33 PM
Oct 2021

happened over the past 5 years with the crazy GOP, then we are doomed. Even if they both win, the fact that it is even close says it all.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
22. I'm not feeling great about it either, especially after watching Rachel last night.
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:50 AM
Oct 2021

I hope we win because I don’t care for the implications if we don’t.

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