I heard on CNN we lost Virginia

[Nikki28]

Then they said even the votes on the BBB won't save us. I am even more depressed. What will this mean is our country has already been lost. We need bigger hitters of Obama and Joe as well as Kamala to go back because if we lose this, we will lose Joe Manchin.This is why I think he will not give Joe a win. All the work we did to get the election win for us,I hate to see it be all for nothing. I am heart sick. It sounds like our side is losing every end. From the rising of the big lie shown in video,Republicans winning when they lost in reality,how people are disrespecting the subpoenas congress send out,the embolden of white supremacy and now it looking like the Justice is not arresting these Jan6 folks, or keeping them in jail. It is like a hopeless death we are in. Biden poll numbers are bad. We can't trust the military will not take Trump side when he steals the next election. Nothing is done on the voting rights bill.I feel the whole drama with Gov Cuomo is a hit job because he is a big threat to the right. Seems the Democrats eats their own with all this back and fourth of trying to hold itself together, and noone can be on the same page.


Seems we are loosing steam.I am sorry to be so bleak, but I feel we have already lost our democracy. My question is this? If the Republicans were in the majority;what do you think they will do different. My opinion is they would have already come together and got rid of the filibuster and all cabinets would have been filled. I have another question about John King,who is a independent. Does his vote count with the Dems, or the Republicans? I am lost on that because if he is not counted with the Republican party, then where is his votes. Sorry to be downer, but this day as all days are as depressing as when Trump was in office. Which reminds me on one more thing. Why can't we use people like Kurt something and Steve S who are now Dems to work the computers online to spread the word that we have to win Virginia, because we will not get another election when they take over. The next election will not be a fair one, but given the Trump, who will never leave office and we will be stuck with them and that includes the whole family and we will be like Russia and Japan and all the authoritarian nations.We are on in trouble and I do not see what our side is doing. We need some out spoken people like they have. It looks like their lies will win and we will be left wondering what happened.Sad day for me.

[Luciferous]

1. They aren't even voting until next Tuesday...

[Alexander Of Assyria]

5. Yes. Lol. And those were not «Jan. 6 folks» i would point out to the author...

those were attempted seditionists.

And no link…so…nada opinion.

[eShirl]

2. wishful thinking on CNN's part

[gab13by13]

4. I never saw a CNN link in the post,

only saw someone's comment on what CNN said.

[gab13by13]

3. Seems to me, and if I am wrong I apologize,

that this post will discourage Democrats from voting in Virginia. WTF now we are losing elections before the election.

[Lawrence454]

6. This post seems like fear mongering before we even have the hard vote totals counted

[Demsrule86]

93. Fear mongering.

[Yonnie3]

7. CNN can predict the Virginia vote that well?

I need some lottery numbers from them.

It is a close race, that is really all that they know.

[Tribetime]

8. Any polling won't show the framework of the bill that's about to be passed

And its effect on voters

[obamanut2012]

9. lolz

[Nikki28]

10. You guys have given me a little hope

I do not know how to link CNN to hear because I do not have an account, but it was a ex republican straggliest who was saying this about 30 minutes ago. FYI, I am not one to stop Dems from voting, ;I am just saying my feelings and hoping it gets them out to vote. Do you see how panic I am in my post. I would hope most here know how my post are by now. I am scared crazy. I have not heard any good news for us in months. Every sense Biden numbers dropped, there has been nothing but bashing him on the lying Fox News and in the Senate and Congress. I just needed someone to talk me off the cliff. It is no different than how I was feeling when we turned out last year to bring it home for our party. I still want the question asked about Steve King who is an independent. I think the moderates are getting to Joe and Senna because they showed Mitt bringing her cookies and that is all she hangs out with. I anxiety and anything shakes me up like our Democracy. Correction , seditionists. That is it and that is all.

[lagomorph777]

24. You believed a Republican about ANYTHING? (Even an ex-Republican)?

No, don't waste your energy on that.

[Skittles]

70. what is the purpose of this kind of post

just curious

[NurseJackie]

82. You are the strangeness correctly observing and the correct questions asking.

70. what is the purpose of this kind of post

I am also of the motivation curious.

I am to you for bringing this up thanking.

[Skittles]

91. HEH

[helpisontheway]

11. I have decided to avoid the media this weekend. So depressing

to see the way that Virginia is going. Democrats and Independents in VA are going to regret it if they elect Youngkin.

[marie999]

32. I get my local news on TV. I get all pertinent news on DU.

[Lulu KC]

12. CNN is trying to freak us out

Every headline. Doomsville, USA. If only it weren't good about consolidating key stories onto its first page (along with a lot of non-key stories) I would avoid the morning glance I give it. It outdoes itself every day.
It misses the last "president" for his entertainment shock value.

[orangecrush]

13. I am moved by your "concern".

[quaint]

23. +

[bronxiteforever]

27. +1 exactly.

[marmar]

28. This. .... Happens every election.

[USALiberal]

58. Then alert it!!!!!

[Lovie777]

14. Expect doomsday threads flowing constant all the way to Tuesday . . .

and corporate polling showing how wonderful R's are.

[JI7]

15. So what ? It's not like Trump "winning" in 2016

[bearsfootball516]

16. Good Lord, what is this bullshit?

[CrackityJones75]

21. Used to be this type of post wasn't allowed.

[RobinA]

45. Yeah, And Then

Trump won and all us "concern trolls" didn't look so off base.

[JI7]

57. Trump didn't "win" becsuse of a lack of concern trolling

[Polybius]

65. I hated those "Thank you for your concern" posts

I would have went back after the election and replied to them "Turns out that I was right."

[Celerity]

17. de rec nt

[LexVegas]

18. I live in Virginia. This is news to me. nt

[Norbert]

19. No

[CentralMass]

20. Time will tell.

[samnsara]

22. on election nite my husband came in late from work and came to bed ( we are on west coast)

..saying he had counted all the remaining delegates and the trump will win again. I pulled the covers over my head and cried myself to sleep. I woke up about 3 am and decided to go watch the remaining shreds of democracy get stripped away. I turn the tv on and by gawd..JOES WINNING!!!!!! I go pound on hubby waking him up and tell him the news.


so........it aint over til its over

[renate]

43. That night was terrifying, wasn't it?

I hadn’t expected there to be any suspense at all other than in Florida. I remember feeling so nauseated as the night went on.

I also remember the dancing in the streets when everything turned out well after all!

[AngryOldDem]

25. Do yourself a favor and turn that shit off.

[colsohlibgal]

26. We'll See

Not sure how we can lose if the Election hasn’t happened yet.

We should win but between the cluelessness of some combined with rampant stupidity we could lose.

[bluedigger]

29. CNN does Future News now?

What are they saying about the World Series? I got money burning a hole in my pocket.

[blm]

30. We lost California the exact same way.

[MoonRiver]

34. Lol, good point!

And in addition, we lost Georgia and Arizona EXACTLY the same way!

[dsp3000]

31. CNN's website has been constantly down on Biden and the Dems in general since Afghanistan

every headline is biden falters, biden fails, democrats fail, democrats balk, etc. they are stil negotiating the goddamn bill.

[Hav]

35. What is this?

All this moaning about the end times because a Republican strategist said something that every partial representative trying to hype his team would say on TV? Please, let's not lose our shit because of bs. Process information in the context it is provided to you.

[peggysue2]

36. Since CNN does not have a sure fire crystal ball . . .

I would discount absolute predictions. The WAPO gives the tiniest edges to McAuliffe, btw.

This will be a ground game; elections are always a ground game. What we know at this point is that early voting (reportedly 3x the number when Northam ran) gives Dems the advantage, as of yesterday 55% to 30%. So, clearly VA's Dem activists have been hard at work. Tomorrow is the last day of early voting. Then it all rides on Tuesday's turnout. Can Republicans make up the spread from what appears to be a significant, early voting deficit? Can Dems get the rest of their coalition out to the polls to counteract any MAGA surge?

We. Don't. Know.

What we do know is VA Dems have been working furiously, that Youngkin dumped $3.5 million into the campaign this past week and MAGA supporters have been wailing about a stolen election--Dems have been committing election fraud, doncha know.

All of which indicates that no one knows what the final outcome will be. Including CNN.

[shrike3]

37. Do you mean Angus King?

There is a John King, but he's a Republican in the House.

[shrike3]

38. How come I can't find a CNN link that says we lost Virginia.

Anyway, it's losing, not loosing.

[DFW]

86. You must differentiate between English and Republicanese

In Republicanese, "loosing" is correct:

EXCERPTS FROM THE OFFICIAL DICTIONARY OF REPUBLICANESE

In Republicanese, many words that sound alike may be spelled differently at random. A few prominent examples:

In Republicanese, the following words may be spelled at random using any of the three ways given:

A.) Two, Too, To
B.) Their, They're, There
c.) Your, Yore, You're

The Republicanese version of Robin Hood therefore starts with "In days of you're...."

The only rule is that the correct use of them as in English is never permitted twice in a row.

Words with single letters that change meaning when that letter is doubled must never be used in correct English context. The classic example is “lose” vs. “loose.” In Republicanese, if you do not win an election, then you “loose” that election. Conversely, if your (Republicanese: you’re) belt is too tight, you need it more “lose” in order to be comfortable. Another example would be the Republicanese, “I met Donald Trump, and he was rudder than I imagined,” vs. “I grabbed the ruder and was able to steer the boat to shore.”

In English, the contraction for "it is" is written "it's." To show possession referring to something previously mentioned, one writes "its." In Republicanese, it is the other way around. Examples:
English: “It's impractical for a building to have its solar panels in the basement.”
Republicanese: “Its impractical for a building to have it's solar panels in the basement.”

In Republicanese, as opposed to English, an apostrophe is used to form a plural. But it must be done at random, never systematically. For example, Bill and Hillary are "the Clinton's," but Bill, Chelsea and Hillary are "the Clintons." The other way around is also correct. In Republicanese, either form is correct as long as it is not spelled the same way twice in a row.

[shrike3]

88. LOL. Thanks for the lesson.

I used to correct people regarding lose and loose, your and you're. But they always got so indignant I gave up.

[DFW]

89. I just ask them to translate into English as I am not competely fluent in Republicanese

If they come back with "I speak American!" I just ask which one? Navajo? Lakota? Hopi? Seminole? Cree? Cherokee?

The usual Republican reply is: "those are Indian languages!" to which I reply, "no, those are American languages. Hindi, Punjabi, Gujarati--THOSE are Indian languages. They come from, and are spoken in--India (duh). English and Spanish are European languages, since England and Spain are part of Europe. Not even Fox 'News' has come up with a map of the world that places England and Spain as part of North America."

The usual Republican reply to that is their universal, "whatever." After ten years, they still don't know on which continent Benghazi is to be found, so it shouldn't come as any surprise that Republicans don't know where England and Spain are, either.

[solara]

39. Wondering about CNN

When did CNN join the Fox "News" cartel? Why is CNN so anti-Biden? When and how did this happen?

I don't normally watch CNN .. just a few specific hosts now and then, like Jim Acosta; Brianna Keilar & John Berman; Don Lemon (sometimes); Chris Cuomo (rarely these days) I used to watch Jake Tapper, but I cannot stomach him now. However, maybe I should take some time to see what's up with CNN before I fall back into the fearful rabbit hole.

Does CNN really WANT trump back in the White House?

I SO don't get any of this.

GOTV! We will not let this travesty happen!

[haele]

40. Yes, the so-called Liberal Media wants GOP in charge. Because disasters increase viewers.

Media companies have proven they don't care about Truth or Justice -and certainly not some sort of America Way, unless that way is what a few retired, minimally educated, Fox news watching locals think in some isolated and poverty stricken rural diner.

They push outrage like a mafia dealer with a quarter pallet of a variety of painkillers hijacked from the local county hospital shipment.
Who cares if communities are being destroyed, there's money to be made...

Haele

[BlackSkimmer]

42. I've seen nothing on CNN saying this.

Perhaps the OP could post a link?

[solara]

48. I wasn't posting about the OP saying CNN already called the Virginia election

But, I've been hearing & reading comments about CNN and their need to "balance" things by pointing out there is little difference between Dems and GQP.. Im just curious as to why this is happening.

[BlackSkimmer]

41. The election has not even been held yet.

But good try.

[George II]

44. How could we have lost Virginia before the election takes place?

[RobinA]

46. 538

has it as a dead heat. We could obviously win it, but what the hell happened? We've been reliably ahead until very recently.

[triron]

53. Stupidity.

[JustAnotherGen]

47. CNN shouldn't have ran that story

Election is not until Tuesday of next week.

[Andy823]

49. Did they really run this story?

OP has never provided a link. I think this it just more doom and gloom BS.

[BlackSkimmer]

61. Did they run that story?

I doubt it.

[11 Bravo]

50. I'll be slightly less polite than some other posters.

Get the fuck out of here with this lame-ass concern troll bullshit!
I live in Virginia, and have for decades. The energy for Democratic candidates in my part of the state is palpable. Also, the vast majority of reputable polls show Terry slightly ahead, albeit many of them remain within the MOE.
The "We've lost VA, but what about this independent dude?" is so reminiscent of Jill Stein that it makes me want to puke.
Take it somewhere else.

[lagomorph777]

51. Likewise.

I don't think we want our Commonwealth to become another COVID slaughterhouse like TX and FL.

[Tarc]

52. Oh, look. "Concern"

[Demovictory9]

54. lol... at least wait until they vote

[Sunsky]

55. Was the election today?

[Retrograde]

56. Isn't the election next week?

CNN - and the media in general - like to treat elections as horse races so they can get more people watching their coverage, and in turn get more ad revenue. They have little interest in balanced coverage.

[radius777]

59. IMO, the VA polls are wrong.

The polls in their 2017 elections underestimated Dem support. There could also be an overcorrection by pollsters who are now overestimating Trump support (because they underestimated in many states in 2016 and 2020).

What I go by are the trendlines: Dems have won VA statewide 13 straight races, Hillary won in 2016 by 6 points, Northam in 2017 by 9 points, Biden by 10 points in 2020.

[Lawrence454]

64. also they are modeling by in a low turnout scenario

early voting suggesting data that its going to be a high turnout and that only benefits Dems in Virginia

[LisaL]

60. The election hasn't even happened yet.

Jeez.

[Alhena]

62. Just the fact that it is close is not good

Va has been a safe blue vote for the past decade or so.

[myohmy2]

63. don't be depressed...

...be angered and energized by your concerns...

...there are more of us than there are of them...help Virginia Dems get people early ballots and to the polls...do what you can...

...as long as we have free elections we'll never permanently win or lose...politics is a continuum

...I agree we fight sometimes with one arm tied behind our backs...Dems by nature are open people, we speak the truth and we're inclusive...unlike the pukes, we actually WANT to help people...

...pukes are deceptive liars that do harm to people that are not like themselves...they may attack us for not succeeding at things, things pukes would never do or would try to destroy...going toe to toe with pukes is sometimes difficult without becoming like a puke...

...but Dems trying to do 'good' will always triumph because doing 'good' helps and builds people's lives...the alternative is puke endorsed destruction and mayhem which harms people...harm that people will ultimately reject...

...I know we'll develop better candidates and arguments as we adjust with the times...all we have to do is aggressively engage, speak the truth and people will listen...

...hang in there...

[book_worm]

66. Jeez, don't start the postmortums until after the votes are cast.

We'll see what happens Tuesday or Wednesday.

[ForgedCrank]

67. Why anyone takes this stuff seriously, I'll never understand.

In an election run-up, there are so many dirty deeds underway and so much misinformation flying around, you can't take any of it as fact.
Ignore it, and go vote. THAT is how elections are won. Never lay down.

[electric_blue68]

68. "It ain't over, till it's over" Saint Yogi Berra, in a tight race like this 👍

[DFW]

69. That is some very acute hearing

Last edited Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:54 PM - Edit history (1)

You heard on CNN that we lost an election that won't take place until next Tuesday, and then you write in Republicanese that we are losing** steam. And who, exactly, is "on in trouble?" Even "given the Trump, who will never leave office," indicates a certain disconnect with linear chronology, seeing that he did indeed leave office last January 20th.

**English words with doubled vowels lose the second vowel in Republicanese, whereas some English words with single vowels get that vowel doubled in Republicanese. "Lose" and "Loose" are classic examples.

Among all the rest, "sorry to be downer" also speaks a few minor volumes. Russians these days are surely hit over the head by their trainers about posting on US sites to cause disruption. "Learn how to use articles!! Know when to use 'the' and 'a' or 'an.' If you don't, you will be identified." Russian doesn't have these parts of speech, and they therefore have considerable difficulty guessing when to use them and when not to. Well, you missed with "downer." We English-speakers say, "sorry to be a downer." By the way, that is "where ARE his votes, not "where is his votes," and if you are referring to a CNN commentator, his one vote counts no more than mine does. One is all anyone is supposed to get.

In case you are really heartsick, check out your словарь. Это не трудно!! Одно слово, понятно? "Heart sick?" никогда!!

Now there would have remained the possibility that we are dealing with a sincere foreigner here, since not everyone has English as a native language. However: "we will be like Russia and Japan and all the authoritarian nations." Seriously?? You're putting Japan on equal footing with Russia? Maybe a Russian who has never been to Japan (or who thinks no American ever has) might swallow that one, but plenty of us have to Russia, Japan, or both. Include me in the "both" category. The very statement is typical of professional propagandists: if you want to cement a false premise into a discussion, build upon it as quickly as you can to gain acceptance. Fox "news" has been borrowing the technique for years. If you ask in public, "What are we going to do about the war on Christmas?" you are asking your audience to accept that there IS such a war going on. Never heard of it? "Many people are saying....." (don't you know?).

If there is anyone on DU who really thinks that Russia and Japan are equally authoritarian nations, I have some cheap oceanfront acreage in Wyoming to offer you. Cheap! Почти безплатно!!

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

71. I declare this a gloom and doomer thread - prove me wrong

[DFW]

72. Read through it out loud a couple of times.

I declare it a plant, and not home-grown, either. More like something from one of the directorates whose task it is to try this kind of stunt. Maybe Unit 74455 or Unit 26165. They certainly have been at it long enough.

[Elessar Zappa]

75. Russian troll.

From what I can tell.

[DFW]

76. Same here.

100% "My-native-language-is-Russian" Russian grammar showing through, and refuses to be denied, like weeds pushing through cracks in the asphalt.

Units 26165 and 74455 of the ГРУ (GRU) must be having a little trouble recruiting good English language teachers if work this obvious is being offered while trolling Democratic sites in the USA. I think Savushkina Street 55 (their so-called "internet Research Agency" in St. Petersburg) is better at this, but maybe they're having a hard time finding good help, too? After all, what good is "owning the libs" if your native language doesn't even have a "the?"

You can't just say "owning libs." It sounds too much like "Moose and Squirrel," although by now, our Russian trolls, if they are younger than 60, will be scrambling to find out what "moose and squirrel" refers to! Ищите, друзья мои! Ищите!! Где лось и белка? ("Search, my friends! Search!! Where are moose and squirrel?&quot Fearless Leader is counting on you!

[lagomorph777]

83. "Moose and Squirrel"

When I read the post that way, it sure looks like you're correct!

[Sabuca]

73. Can you quote this alleged CNN analyst?

Who is he or she and what was said?

[Hav]

80. The thread starter clarified in another post

that it was a Republican strategist. Big surprise that a Repub would predict that the Repub candidate wins.

[Vinca]

77. Hard to lose before votes are cast and counted.

The media is in its usual pre-election, "let's make news" frenzy. Apparently they can't be bothered to cover the civil cases in court which involve Trump and either groping or rape, so instead they're turning poor Joe into the person who brought down the country and Terry McAuliffe as the presumed victim.

[GoodRaisin]

78. So CNN already called it? LOL.

It wouldn’t be all that surprising though, considering some of the other shit CNN’s ownership has pulled.

[jcmaine72]

79. Saying "I heard it on CNN" is like saying...

"A friend of my friend's cousin knows a guy who is dating this woman who has a brother in Sheboygan who spoke to his pastor who said that...."

At this point, all the corporate news media in this country is adept at doing is repeating vacuous fifth-hand rumors and tawdry beauty parlor gossip. They are never to be taken seriously.

[PCIntern]

81. ....and I know a guy who knows a guy who knows about every job

pulled west of the Mississippi.

[FSogol]

84. Why help CNN with their ratfucking?

Claiming elections are over before they start is an attempt to suppress the turnout. Democrats need high turnout to win. When we stay home we lose. I wrote about it here on DU back in 2014:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10025750820

[fescuerescue]

85. Was it commentary? Or news

Unfortunately, mainstream news mixes commentary and news freely and few people can determine the difference.

[lagomorph777]

90. It was imaginary. The post is false.

[themaguffin]

87. Please delete this. What is the point of this?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

92. Why in the world doess it matter? This is one person's opinion why do you get to say what people can

Think and write and say? man "thought police' has gotten so bad around here. Free speech dead?

[themaguffin]

94. No need for straw men. ffs.