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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:30 PM Oct 2021

Al Franken for New York Senate?

Since moving to the Upper West Side in New York earlier this year, AL FRANKEN has been sounding out confidantes about primarying his nemesis Sen. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D-N.Y.) in 2024, multiple sources tell Playbook.

The former Senator from Minnesota fueled speculation when he told the New York Times a month ago, “I am keeping my options open,” when asked about running for Senate in New York.

But according to his spokesperson, those options do not include taking on Gillibrand.

Franken declined to comment by phone when we asked about his interest in primarying Gillibrand. He referred us to his spokeswoman, ALEXANDRA FETISSOFF, who said “he has no intention of running for Senate.”

https://www.politico.com/playbook

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Al Franken for New York Senate? (Original Post) Tomconroy Oct 2021 OP
I really really like this idea... FarPoint Oct 2021 #1
Could he do that?? I mean aren't there living in a State restrictions?? Carpetbagger status?? a kennedy Oct 2021 #5
That's the same thing that was said about Hillary Clinton FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #10
And Robert Kennedy, and (fill in the blank) The Wizard Oct 2021 #16
Willard Rmoney too FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #17
Across Andrew Giuliani's 5 decades of political experience, we've seen this many times Bucky Oct 2021 #49
If he moved to New York in 2021 and runs in 2024 Retrograde Oct 2021 #11
He was an excellent senator pandr32 Oct 2021 #2
I wouldn't be mad at him. gldstwmn Oct 2021 #3
Run Al, Run!!! Tomconroy Oct 2021 #4
Sounds like typical right wing reporting to stir up the pot. carpetbagger Oct 2021 #6
Shit stirring by Politico. SharonClark Oct 2021 #7
Lol I'll be glad when people stop trying to make this happen. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #8
the OP misleadingly altered the title, which actually says: Franken rules out run against Gillibrand Celerity Oct 2021 #19
As I say. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #20
Everyone says they aren't running until they announce Tomconroy Oct 2021 #22
No, you altered the title to give a false impression, and now you are spinning again. EOS Celerity Oct 2021 #25
Now it's you who left something out. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #26
I directly snapshotted the article w/ relevant parts directly from his camp that refute your claims Celerity Oct 2021 #29
again you're giving a false impression by now changing what the article says Celerity Oct 2021 #27
I'm counting the days until Al declares! Tomconroy Oct 2021 #28
hope you can count very high nt Celerity Oct 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 2021 #9
It would be just and fitting for him to replace Gillibrand FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Oct 2021 #13
Dems in Disarray!!! brooklynite Oct 2021 #14
"he has no intention of running for Senate." PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #15
why did you alter (in a very misleading way) the title? Franken rules out run against Gillibrand Celerity Oct 2021 #18
Good point. Looked at the link after your earlier post. PufPuf23 Oct 2021 #21
The I am sure accurate story is that he is making inquiries. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #23
Wonder how Franken would feel about living in Arizona? Totally Tunsie Oct 2021 #24
Wish he would. I think he would mop up the floor with Synema yellowdogintexas Oct 2021 #34
How would Arizona feel about Franken? brooklynite Oct 2021 #36
Well, they managed to elect Sinema. Totally Tunsie Oct 2021 #39
I personally wouldn't want Franken AZProgressive Oct 2021 #42
I like Gallego a lot Dorian Gray Nov 2021 #56
Gillibrand has a 74% approval among NY Democrats... Drunken Irishman Oct 2021 #31
Additionally, what issue would he run on that would differentiate him from Gillibrand? brooklynite Oct 2021 #32
Sincerity and decency would be the obvious differences ? OnDoutside Oct 2021 #41
New Yorkers don't see Gillibrand as insincere and indecent.... brooklynite Oct 2021 #44
That's a surprise. OnDoutside Oct 2021 #51
Why? brooklynite Oct 2021 #52
Only to you. Dorian Gray Nov 2021 #58
Right Dorian Gray Nov 2021 #57
Al should be in the Administration. Certainly not her. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #61
Okay Dorian Gray Nov 2021 #64
I think it's significant that Al declined to say anything when Tomconroy Oct 2021 #33
This is stupid. Trash thread. n/t demmiblue Oct 2021 #35
Al Franken needs to be uncanceled and redeemed. jcmaine72 Oct 2021 #37
So far, though he misses the Senate, Al has not been interested in returning there DFW Oct 2021 #38
Yes it's convenient to blame just Gillibrand... LakeArenal Oct 2021 #46
Al doesn't blame just Gillibrand, of course. DFW Nov 2021 #54
+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #59
Funny how many of those went and ran for president. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #60
All of whom were not nominated for president, incidentally. DFW Nov 2021 #62
I have said them on here and paid the price. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #65
This thread needs to go as it is written. Inaccurate bull shit. DU is better then this. Tommymac Oct 2021 #40
+100000 Celerity Nov 2021 #63
Al recently moved to NYC. He still has an interest in political Tomconroy Oct 2021 #43
I'll take "Things that are never going to happen" for $500 tritsofme Oct 2021 #45
I want him in the Senate, but that wouldn't helpful themaguffin Oct 2021 #47
Politico BS JI7 Oct 2021 #48
He might n be a good replacement once Chuck Schumer retires Bucky Oct 2021 #50
Just a guess, but a white male doesn't seem likely to be the next choice. brooklynite Oct 2021 #53
Franken and Schumer are the same age. tritsofme Nov 2021 #55

a kennedy

(29,660 posts)
5. Could he do that?? I mean aren't there living in a State restrictions?? Carpetbagger status??
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:38 PM
Oct 2021

I want him back in the Senate so bad and if it’s possible in another State, then so be it. New York is as good as any.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,431 posts)
10. That's the same thing that was said about Hillary Clinton
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

It would be up to Franken to meet any residency requirement and connect to NewYorkers. That's why Clinton went on her "listening tour".

FoxNewsSucks

(10,431 posts)
17. Willard Rmoney too
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:29 PM
Oct 2021

He voted in Massachussetts from his son's basement address after being governor, lived in San Diego in a fancy mansion with a car elevator, and I guess had a mansion somewhere in Utah so he went there to get his fellow Mormons to elect him Senator.

It's pretty common.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
49. Across Andrew Giuliani's 5 decades of political experience, we've seen this many times
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 07:00 PM
Oct 2021

If the public is willing to elect to a representative, it should be considered a legitimate option.

That said, it's probably a bad idea to primary a fellow Dem over such a small political difference. Too much like Kennedy opposing Markey last year. Ambition wasting everybody's time & money.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
11. If he moved to New York in 2021 and runs in 2024
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:06 PM
Oct 2021

Franken will have been a New York state resident longer than RFK was when he ran in 1964.

I don't think he should run after giving up a previous seat, but it does seem like he'll meet the residency requirements.

pandr32

(11,583 posts)
2. He was an excellent senator
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:35 PM
Oct 2021

It would be nice to see him back and show those who set him up that you really can't keep a good man down.

carpetbagger

(4,391 posts)
6. Sounds like typical right wing reporting to stir up the pot.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:45 PM
Oct 2021

New York could do far better than Gillibrand, but the IDC/Cuomo era political structure has been a strong headwind.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
22. Everyone says they aren't running until they announce
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:52 PM
Oct 2021

they are running. I believe the reporting that he is making inquiries.

Celerity

(43,358 posts)
25. No, you altered the title to give a false impression, and now you are spinning again. EOS
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:57 PM
Oct 2021
I believe the reporting that he is making inquiries.




Celerity

(43,358 posts)
29. I directly snapshotted the article w/ relevant parts directly from his camp that refute your claims
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:06 PM
Oct 2021

Celerity

(43,358 posts)
27. again you're giving a false impression by now changing what the article says
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:02 PM
Oct 2021
I believe the reporting that he is making inquiries.


Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

FoxNewsSucks

(10,431 posts)
12. It would be just and fitting for him to replace Gillibrand
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:06 PM
Oct 2021

But there are Democratic Senators I'd rather see him replace. They're not from NY, however, so I'd be glad to see Franken back in the Senate wherever he's living.

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

brooklynite

(94,554 posts)
14. Dems in Disarray!!!
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:25 PM
Oct 2021

Oh, wait. We LIKE Politico talking about conflicts between Democrats as long it matches our opinion?

I respect Al Franken's political judgement, which will tell him that Gillibrand is a popular NY Senator who isn't going to be at risk despite some activist bloggers blaming her for Franken's resignation

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
15. "he has no intention of running for Senate."
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:25 PM
Oct 2021

If he actually wanted to run again, he'd be doing it in Minnesota.

Celerity

(43,358 posts)
18. why did you alter (in a very misleading way) the title? Franken rules out run against Gillibrand
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:32 PM
Oct 2021


dodgy move m8

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
21. Good point. Looked at the link after your earlier post.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021

Catchy idea but why sow confusion in the manner of the OP?

IMO Franken made a mistake to resign and the charges against Franken appeared weak and within party strife.

Wish Franken was still an active pol.

yellowdogintexas

(22,252 posts)
34. Wish he would. I think he would mop up the floor with Synema
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:49 PM
Oct 2021

and would be able to take out any Republican nominee. JMHO

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
42. I personally wouldn't want Franken
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:47 PM
Oct 2021

I also like Gillibrand which makes me different than most DUers. Rueben Gallego seems good enough for me to replace Sinema.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
56. I like Gallego a lot
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:32 AM
Nov 2021

Does he have a chance in AZ?

I also like Gillibrand, which isn't a popular position here on DU. But as a NY legislator, she's good.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
31. Gillibrand has a 74% approval among NY Democrats...
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:15 PM
Oct 2021

Even if the article you linked to didn't specifically say he wasn't running, his running likely would be a struggle as back in March, Gillibrand had a very high approval rating among NY Democrats.

Hard to believe it's dropped much over the last few months.

https://morningconsult.com/2021/03/25/cuomo-schumer-gillibrand-approval-rating/

brooklynite

(94,554 posts)
52. Why?
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 07:54 PM
Oct 2021

She's an effective fighter and voter for things New Yorkers care about. One of the things they don't care about (outside of a handful of activists and bloggers) is "blame" for Franken deciding to leave. (most people DON'T care about elected officials who aren't theirs).

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
57. Right
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:34 AM
Nov 2021

I know DU has a lot of resentment against Gillibrand bc she's seen as responsible for Franken resigning his senate seat, but she polls well in NY State and she is way more liked here than this board would lead us to believe.

I don't think that would be an easy run for him. (And I don't think he'd do it unless she left the senate to work in the admin.)

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
61. Al should be in the Administration. Certainly not her.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:14 AM
Nov 2021

She may be popular there but she isn’t anywhere else.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
64. Okay
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 12:01 PM
Nov 2021

I'd be cool with that. The thread was about him running for her Senate seat, though, and I didn't think he'd do it unless she wasn't running for it again.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
33. I think it's significant that Al declined to say anything when
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:38 PM
Oct 2021

asked by a reporter about running. He referred the reporter to his spokesperson who didn't say Al wasn't running, but did say that he had no intention of running. Intentions can change (to coin a phrase) in a New York minute!

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
37. Al Franken needs to be uncanceled and redeemed.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:57 PM
Oct 2021

What was done to him was an absolute travesty. He should still be serving in the Senate.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
38. So far, though he misses the Senate, Al has not been interested in returning there
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:03 PM
Oct 2021

While he misses the Senate terribly, there are still way too many Senators there that he does NOT miss. It would take a LOT more apologies--sincere ones, I might add, and he can tell the difference--from him to even have interest in that, much less a desire to open a serious campaign, no matter from what state.

Something could always happen that might make him change his mind, but so far, so such "thing" has presented itself. He was toying with the idea of Governor of Minnesota for a while, but I don't know if he wants to tie himself up in St. Paul after having been such a national figure. He told me he'd LIKE to have another shot at elective office, but he just couldn't think of one he'd like to try for, and this was almost two years ago.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
46. Yes it's convenient to blame just Gillibrand...
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:49 PM
Oct 2021

But the others sealed the deal.

The only thing some of those Senators are beloved, so no blame is allowed to fall on them.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
54. Al doesn't blame just Gillibrand, of course.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 02:36 AM
Nov 2021

He is smart enough to know who was rubbing their hands at the shot of a „morally superior“ free ride, and I‘m telling you right now I would probably be hounded (or booted) off DU if I were to tell some of the stuff pulled by some Senators we respect and admire. Al has kept most of it to himself, and there sure are no „links“ where one go to confirm or deny. You were either there (or are friends with someone who was), or you weren‘t.

Some have apologized. Bill Nelson, who later got replaced by (t)Rick Scott, Jon Tester, Sheldon Whitehouse are no secrets, and there were others. But MOST, not just some, of the Senators who piled on Al to resign are still too embarrassed, too proud, too cowardly or too cynical to admit that they jumped on a bandwagon for no other reason than it seemed like they would miss out on something if they didn‘t. This includes all serving Democratic Senators who ran for president in the last election, by the way.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
62. All of whom were not nominated for president, incidentally.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:18 AM
Nov 2021

Some unkind observations and revelations come to mind, but I will just leave it at that.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
43. Al recently moved to NYC. He still has an interest in political
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 04:53 PM
Oct 2021

office and apparently has decided that if he has a political future it will be in New York. I doubt if having been a Senator he has any interest in becoming a Congressman. That leaves Governor next year or Senator in 2024. So he's making some inquiries about the Senate and that's big news!

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
50. He might n be a good replacement once Chuck Schumer retires
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 07:04 PM
Oct 2021

Senators serve way way way too long as is.

I'd favor a 12 year time limit on Congressional terms. Especially if it was enforced along with spending, lobbying, and donation reforms.

brooklynite

(94,554 posts)
53. Just a guess, but a white male doesn't seem likely to be the next choice.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:12 PM
Oct 2021

Plus Tish James will need a gig after she loses the Governor's race.

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