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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:12 AM

The President's party ALWAYS loses the VA gov race the year after a new president takes office

This year is no different than 1977, 1981,1989, 1993, 2001, 2009, 2017.


People are overthinking this WAAAY too much.

In fact, this may be the narrowest Democratic loss in 40 years.

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Reply The President's party ALWAYS loses the VA gov race the year after a new president takes office (Original post)
Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 OP
RayTy Nov 2021 #1
budkin Nov 2021 #2
qazplm135 Nov 2021 #3
Cha Nov 2021 #4
SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #5
onenote Nov 2021 #10
BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2021 #6
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #7
onenote Nov 2021 #11
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #12
BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2021 #16
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #17
onenote Nov 2021 #18
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #20
onenote Nov 2021 #22
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #23
gldstwmn Nov 2021 #19
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #21
inwiththenew Nov 2021 #8
book_worm Nov 2021 #9
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #13
Initech Nov 2021 #14
In It to Win It Nov 2021 #15
ColinC Nov 2021 #24
moondust Nov 2021 #25

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:14 AM

1. thanks

needed this comfort tonight

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:15 AM

2. The only issue is that Virginia has never been this blue before

So it's a bit more shocking.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:17 AM

3. except one year recently

so no, not always.

Still, NJ being on a razor's edge is part of the calculus as well is it not?

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:18 AM

4. Weird! Needed Extra Hard GOTV!!

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:19 AM

5. So The Only Chance McAuliffe Had Was If TFG Had Won

Sure, that makes perfect sense. What a fucked up world.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:27 AM

10. If Amanda Chase had gotten the republican nomination, McAuliffe might have won.

But after Corey Stewart, Ken Cucinelli, Jim Kilgore, the Virginia repubs figured out that putting up another crazy in a statewide election wouldn't work, so they went with someone who looked more the part of a mainstream republican -- one who could appeal to suburban Republicans and independents.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:20 AM

6. It's crazy sometimes.

In 1984, Reagan won Virginia by 25 points.

One year later, Chuck Robb (D) won the Virginia governorship by 10.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:21 AM

7. You can polish that as much as you want.

We lost in NJ too.

This isnít good.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:30 AM

11. When did NJ get called? Or are you just throwing out sh*t for sh*t's sake.

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Response to onenote (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:33 AM

12. It's being reported on the tv machine dear.

No need to use asterisks lol.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:52 AM

16. I don't see anyone calling NJ yet.

They're separated by a whisker right now.

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Response to BlueCheeseAgain (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:55 AM

17. I'll be thrilled if what I saw turns out to be wrong.

I'm feeling very demoralized tonight. NJ is much closer than I expected.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:56 AM

18. Which station, dear?

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Response to onenote (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:01 AM

20. I have CNN on, but muted, because I'm too depressed to hear any more bad news.

Sure hope you're right!

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:05 AM

22. CNN currently showing Murphy behind by less than 2000 votes. UPDATE: now less than 600

Other sites are reporting Murphy has taken the lead.

I've had CNN on all night and not once did I hear them declare Murphy had lost.

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Response to onenote (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:10 AM

23. OK, no doubt I dreamed it.

Whatever dude.

Sure hope we win.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:01 AM

19. NJ is separated by 3000 votes right now.

Murphy is gaining ground and will probably win that.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:03 AM

21. Fingers crossed.

much closer than I would have hoped.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:23 AM

8. I'm not sure that is a trend we should be reassuring ourselves with

Because you know what is another one? The President's party losing seats in the midterm. That has happened in almost every midterm election in the last 40 years, save for 2002.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:25 AM

9. This is just an excuse that doesn't take away from the fact

that the Democrats have acted for the last six months or so like they can't do anything or get anything done. They look weak. Biden's approval ratings are rivaling Trump's. Virginia was bad enough--despite the narrowness of the losses--Dems are going to lose every statewide race and possible the House of Delegates. What's worse is that New Jersey, which may yet go Democratic for Governor, is also so close. Nobody expected that. The electorate of these two states took out their frustration on Dems. Dems stayed loyal to Dems that is the only thing that has kept these states close, but Republicans in outer burgs and rural areas voted in high numbers and INDEPENDENTS deserted the Democratic party. Thank goodness Biden and the Dems have a year to try and save themselves from another disaster.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:45 AM

13. It isn't physics. Past results don't determine future performance.

We should try to find out why we lost.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:50 AM

14. But they've never had a governor this batshit, far right, off the rails insane, have they?

Youngkin is fucking scary. He's worse than Trump, IMO.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:51 AM

15. Doesn't make it any less painful

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 03:48 AM

24. Still

Doesn't make it hurt any less.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 05:53 AM

25. That was before one party went fascist.

Anyone who values democracy and freedom and has paid any attention to politics over the past 5 years would vote for a ham sandwich over any candidate representing today's corrupt Republican Party.

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