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Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:22 AM Nov 2021

If losing one state gubernatorial election

is enough to declare the end of a Democratic Presidency not even a year old, then the Republicans should have been a miserable failure for years on end. The Trump Presidency was ultimately (largely) a disaster for Republicans as they lost the House, the Senate, and ultimately the Presidency in the span of 4 years and obstruction remains their only enduring legacy. Yet we are to believe that the end is nigh for Democrats because they lost one gubernatorial election in a state whose party traditionally switches in accordance with the party in the WH. Virginia was a disappointment, and the residents of Virginia are likely in for a bumpy 4 years (though Republicans do not control the Senate). Hopefully, Tuesday's result will encourage Virginia Democrats to come (back) out in 2022 to hold the Senate and reclaim some of their lost HOD seats and the Governor's mansion in 2025. Also, I think that Democrats need to tune out the media and stop treating their pronouncements and framing as good political advice. The media is not our friend and do not exist to help us. We need to do what we think is right and best for the country and ignore the defeatist and anti-Democratic punditry. And one more thing: We need to act like winners and spike the football when we win just like Republicans do. A win is a win is a win. We need to stop focusing on the size of our victories and do what we need to do regardless. We can extend our hands in friendship to all citizens and members of the other party in moving forward but we shouldn't be constrained by them if they persist in rampant obstructionism.

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If losing one state gubernatorial election (Original Post) Mad_Machine76 Nov 2021 OP
Yet another point of right-wing bias in the media unblock Nov 2021 #1
Republicans get into trouble, when they try to cut entitlements like social security and medicare... Omnipresent Nov 2021 #2
That thought terrifies them moose65 Nov 2021 #3
Their need for "limited government" will never happen. Omnipresent Nov 2021 #5
+1000 crimycarny Nov 2021 #4

unblock

(52,208 posts)
1. Yet another point of right-wing bias in the media
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:39 AM
Nov 2021

In 40 years I can't recall a single instance of the media telling republicans they need to learn lessons from a previous election and move to the left or back toward the center.

But they seem to manage to tell democrats that we need to move away from the left every damn time.

Omnipresent

(5,707 posts)
2. Republicans get into trouble, when they try to cut entitlements like social security and medicare...
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:00 PM
Nov 2021

They really can’t move to the right of where their party was in the days of President Hoovers, and try to eliminate those program.
It wasn’t easy for them to lose the Whitehouse for 20 years and try to roll social program changes back.

They are really stuck with a fragmented ideology.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
3. That thought terrifies them
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:02 PM
Nov 2021

They lost the Presidency for 20 years (can you imagine that happening today) and then after that they lost the House for 40 years.

Whew. May it be so again!

Omnipresent

(5,707 posts)
5. Their need for "limited government" will never happen.
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 02:59 PM
Nov 2021

We have taken them on a journey, for which there is no return for them.

We in fact, own the right!

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
4. +1000
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 12:31 PM
Nov 2021

Articulated my exact thoughts perfectly. Thank you!

It's almost as if we aren't wringing our hands in despair about losing VA that means we're "in denial". People are attracted to winners, not defeatists. So let's spike the ball on our wins (as you state), take our losses in stride, and go forward with confidence, focus, and determination to win soundly in 2022!

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