Whose body, whose choice? The issues are different, and the difference really, truly matters.

[Soph0571]

But here’s the thing. A person who declines to have sex or give birth against their will does not directly harm others in the process. A woman who has an abortion does not force an unwanted pregnancy on the next ten people she meets. A girl who decides not to go home with her date does not oblige anyone else in the bar to fuck him. Yes, it sucks to be sexually rejected, but it is not, in fact, the moral equivalent of literally dying because a stranger was selfish. Nobody has yet been known to perish from erotic deprivation.

The issues are different, and the difference really, truly matters. The key question is whether the right to refuse a physical intervention puts others- potentially many, many others- at risk of serious harm and death. Those who refuse vaccines or masks are not merely exercising autonomy. They are not simply denying someone active care and attention. They are deliberately and willfully endangering other people.

‘My body, my choice’ doesn’t work when the choice endangers the bodies of hundreds of strangers.
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Somehow, we have begun to define ‘freedom’ as ‘never having to put yourself out for other people’. That’s a sad, narrow vision of liberty. It was only ever designed for wealthy white men - and if the past two years have taught us anything, it’s that for some people to enjoy that shabby, self-dealing sort of autonomy, other people have to pay. If we plan to survive the century, we might do well to expand our definition of what freedom means, and whose freedom matters.

[link:https://lauriepenny.substack.com/p/whose-body-whose-choice|]
Emphasis mine

Really great article. Worth clicking on the link to read the whole piece...

Increasingly, some members of society seem outraged by the realization that they are, in fact, members of society. For some fragile individuals, the mere suggestion that they might be in any way responsible for the well-being of anyone else is received as a mortal insult, and being made aware that their actions have consequences is an unpardonable assault on their human rights - although human rights, being an essentially collective idea, are probably also a communist plot to destroy the family and dethrone god.

Fragile righties stealing a fundamental feminist principle to wage pandemic war... surprise! And they think it is a gotcha moment...

[piddyprints]

1. I've been saying this.

It’s insulting and inappropriate for the covidiots to use this phrase to assert their “rights” to infect others people.

[mitch96]

2. This got me thinking... "My body, My right" accept when it comes to abortion

Then you have no rights...?WTF? Makes no sense to me..
It's like the "Blue lives matter" crew
Accept when it comes to The Capitol Police.... Those guys you can mess up with impunity..
Fitting the dialog to what suits you? People are weird.. YMMV
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[North Shore Chicago]

3. Thank you for posting this thread.

So much outrage fatigue in progress. Many folks just consider it a given that females will get through any challenges before them, with slightly a hand from anyone else.

[KentuckyWoman]

4. I agree and - There is another whine as well.

Mandates (public safety laws) are tyranny.

When I hear this I ask if they think traffic lights and stop signs are tyranny. Blank stare usually.

If you don't mask and vax you could kill yourself and other people.
If you run stop signs and traffic lights you could kill yourself and other people.

It is the same exact thing.
If they are sincere they will be out demanding an end to all traffic control laws. Freedom.

[SYFROYH]

7. I agree the anti-Vaxers are cynically using a feminist stance.

But there is an important caveat - the unvaxed, per se, are not dangerous, the contagious are dangerous.

So then it becomes a probabilistic danger that is always difficult to argue.

[niyad]

8. and the WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. Would you consider cross-posting this in

Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in advance.