Kyle R Trial: DA doing well on this initial attack, IMO

[Scottie Mom]

I am hoping he finishes right before lunch and allows the destruction of this whiny teenage killer to sink in while the jury has their lunch break.

[Johnny2X2X]

1. Judge just stopped him

Ridiculous. Was just talking about KR tailoring his story and the judge admonished him for violating his conctitutional right to remain silent. WTF?

[Scottie Mom]

3. My mouth dropped on what that judge did.

I practiced law for a long time -- if a defense entails the mind set of the defendant, the DA was well within his rights to ask about intent.

[uponit7771]

15. RIGHT !!! and the past actions with Mr Black goes to intent ... I'm blown away at the judge claiming

... it was his oppinion those statements to Mr Black had no bearing on what KR did.

[a kennedy]

4. This judge will, through his interventions, will get this piece of garbage off.

[Amishman]

5. the prosecutions screwups and aggression with prior witnesses isn't helping here

The judge started out as unfriendly, and the ADAs didn't exactly help the situation with the prior witnesses. The witness yesterday flat out accusing Binger of trying to coerce him into changing his statement was probably the last straw.

[Sympthsical]

2. The prosecutor just got taken to the woodshed

A grave constitutional violation.

Who hired these people?

[hlthe2b]

7. Bullshit from a corrupt judge.

[Sympthsical]

14. Violating a defendant's 5th Amendment rights is not bullshit

People need to look outside of the narrative they want.

This was egregious by the prosecution. He violated Prosecutor 101.

[hlthe2b]

16. Everything this judge has done prior has shown a total disregard for justice so BS on that.

Yes, the prosecutor made an error, but that judge had already stacked the deck totally prior to now. He shows his bias toward the defense in nearly everything he does or says.

[Sympthsical]

18. You're shifting your argument

At least you're conceding the point, I suppose.

I'll take it.

[hlthe2b]

19. Don't be condescending... This judge is at a minimum biased as hell. I shifted nothing.

It IS bullshit from a corrupt judge.

[Sympthsical]

20. And you're back

Calling a 5th Amendment violation bullshit.

I do not think the interest here is in law and justice.

"Well, I don't like the guy, so violating his core rights at trial isn't that big a problem."

Honestly seems like what you're going for here.

[hlthe2b]

22. I am calling his comments, decisions THROUGHOUT this proceeding bullshit.

Don't worry, that judge is determined to make sure he walks, so you can feel happy about that. (and it clearly appears that you will).

[Kingofalldems]

25. Sure does.

[Bucky]

23. Point taken

but bear in mind this is a partisan forum, not a forensic debating forum

[BlackSkimmer]

34. It's a discussion forum is it not?

Are we all supposed to agree with one another?

[Bucky]

45. It's okay with me.

Just remember that there's plenty of folks here who ain't so okay with diversity. If you haven't been called a DINO, a Nader-doop, or a Republican troll (excuse me, I meant to type "Repuke-blow-kkk-on" troll), you haven't had the full DU experience

[hlthe2b]

24. I said nearly every other decision up to now has been biased along with his demeanor toward

the prosecution. I guess that is a concept that is difficult for you--for someone to see his actions as a whole, even if he may have called one decision correctly.

[manicdem]

27. Commenting attorneys say different

Most of the attorney blogs and channels are saying the prosecutor screwed the case up with this and many other things.

[hlthe2b]

29. You do know that two things can be right at the same time, right? I never said the prosecutor

bears no blame nor deserves no criticism.

Don't worry, though. It is clear that Kyle will be acquitted. I won't be sharing the champagne though. This is a redux of George Zimmerman. May this little shit's life be just as karma-haunted as apparently is Zimmerman's.

[manicdem]

26. Prosecution screwed it up

To be fair, the prosecution has totally screwed the case up. Their witnesses were helping to defend rather than prosecute.

[hlthe2b]

30. You already posted this to me. I won't be redundant and will send you to my previous response.

[manicdem]

38. That's nice

I'm just going to keep posting and you can keep replying.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. This judge is crooked

Now he's not allowing questions on what the defendant knows about gun laws.

[Scottie Mom]

8. The Judge is an old timer and is the longest serving judge in the State

He may not be crocked, but he most certainly is a wack job IMO.

[Celerity]

9. I think he is weak. I have little hope justice will be done in this case. It all seems stacked in

the favour of the white power vigilante. The judge is a fucking POS.

[uponit7771]

17. omfg, this and what the judge started to "teach" the jury about the non lethality of hollow point

... bullets before he broke is gobsmacking

[Celerity]

21. a mistrial will very likely be granted 'with prejudice' so no retrial, as jeopardy rules apply

as it is due to prosecutorial misconduct

Every single lawyer I am seeing comment is saying this, especially after the prosecutor went after the judge and told him to stop interrupting him, plus he has now 3 times violated pre trial rulings and has tried to introduce character evidence that is banned under Federal Rule of Evidence Number 404, as well as trying to slip in inferences that violate the little asshole's 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination.


this prosecutor is a clown (so is the judge, so you have a perfect storm of volatility)

the lead counsel for the defence is loving life atm

[dsc]

28. this is a state trial why would the federal rules apply?

[Celerity]

39. because it is basic foundational jurisprudence for any criminal trial in the US, evidence of a

person’s character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait.

There are some exceptions, but those exceptions are not germane to what the prosecutors was trying to do

[Celerity]

40. the 5th Amendment is in the US Constitution yet state and local courts are bound by it as well

[dsc]

42. I get that

but the federal rules of evidence does things like define hearsay and the like. I would think each state would have its own version of that.

[Celerity]

43. it's known at state & local levels as well as 404 prohibitions against character evidence

every single lawyer has been using that phraseology

here is the NC state citation, for instance

https://ncpro.sog.unc.edu/manual/703-3

[Celerity]

44. btw, propensity evidence is another term for character evidence that some lawyers use

[BlackSkimmer]

32. I don't have a good feeling about this at all.

Obvious who the judge sides with.

[Celerity]

41. Itis not just the judge, the prosecutor is really cocking it up as well, every legal commentator

that I have seen (over 10 now, all lawyers, prosecutors, or ex judges) is ripping him to shreds as well.

[BlackSkimmer]

33. Exactly this.

He even let the court reporter admonish the prosecutor. This is a joke.

[a kennedy]

10. and just to visualize his weapon.......

https://www.americanfirearms.org/best-ar-15-rifles/

[multireeds]

11. dig the USA flag

tissue box dude is provided by the court

[Johnny2X2X]

12. This kid is proud of what he did

He thinks it's the greatest thing, you can tell. He killed 2 liberals and the only thing he's sorry about is that it wasn't more.

[BlackSkimmer]

35. I hope one day he gets that smirk knocked off his smarmy little face. nt

[Johnny2X2X]

13. Judge is ridiculous

Can't even talk about Rittenhouse pointing his gun at people.

[BlackSkimmer]

31. He might have done well, but that judge is ruining his case.

Poor widdle boy is looking like a victim.

[UTUSN]

36. Who's on the jury for this thing?

[rockfordfile]

37. yeah he's a dirty judge. From the outset he started on against the media.

The media called him on his bs and he reacted like a guilty judge.