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Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:02 PM

Kyle R Trial: DA doing well on this initial attack, IMO

I am hoping he finishes right before lunch and allows the destruction of this whiny teenage killer to sink in while the jury has their lunch break.

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Reply Kyle R Trial: DA doing well on this initial attack, IMO (Original post)
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 OP
Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #1
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #3
uponit7771 Nov 2021 #15
a kennedy Nov 2021 #4
Amishman Nov 2021 #5
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #2
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #7
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #14
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #16
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #18
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #19
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #20
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #22
Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #25
Bucky Nov 2021 #23
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #34
Bucky Nov 2021 #45
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #24
manicdem Nov 2021 #27
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #29
manicdem Nov 2021 #26
hlthe2b Nov 2021 #30
manicdem Nov 2021 #38
Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #6
Scottie Mom Nov 2021 #8
Celerity Nov 2021 #9
uponit7771 Nov 2021 #17
Celerity Nov 2021 #21
dsc Nov 2021 #28
Celerity Nov 2021 #39
Celerity Nov 2021 #40
dsc Nov 2021 #42
Celerity Nov 2021 #43
Celerity Nov 2021 #44
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #32
Celerity Nov 2021 #41
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #33
a kennedy Nov 2021 #10
multireeds Nov 2021 #11
Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #12
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #35
Johnny2X2X Nov 2021 #13
BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #31
UTUSN Nov 2021 #36
rockfordfile Nov 2021 #37

Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:04 PM

1. Judge just stopped him

Ridiculous. Was just talking about KR tailoring his story and the judge admonished him for violating his conctitutional right to remain silent. WTF?

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:05 PM

3. My mouth dropped on what that judge did.

I practiced law for a long time -- if a defense entails the mind set of the defendant, the DA was well within his rights to ask about intent.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:51 PM

15. RIGHT !!! and the past actions with Mr Black goes to intent ... I'm blown away at the judge claiming

... it was his oppinion those statements to Mr Black had no bearing on what KR did.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:06 PM

4. This judge will, through his interventions, will get this piece of garbage off.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:10 PM

5. the prosecutions screwups and aggression with prior witnesses isn't helping here

The judge started out as unfriendly, and the ADAs didn't exactly help the situation with the prior witnesses. The witness yesterday flat out accusing Binger of trying to coerce him into changing his statement was probably the last straw.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:04 PM

2. The prosecutor just got taken to the woodshed

A grave constitutional violation.

Who hired these people?

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:12 PM

7. Bullshit from a corrupt judge.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:48 PM

14. Violating a defendant's 5th Amendment rights is not bullshit

People need to look outside of the narrative they want.

This was egregious by the prosecution. He violated Prosecutor 101.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:52 PM

16. Everything this judge has done prior has shown a total disregard for justice so BS on that.

Yes, the prosecutor made an error, but that judge had already stacked the deck totally prior to now. He shows his bias toward the defense in nearly everything he does or says.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:56 PM

18. You're shifting your argument

At least you're conceding the point, I suppose.

I'll take it.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:58 PM

19. Don't be condescending... This judge is at a minimum biased as hell. I shifted nothing.

It IS bullshit from a corrupt judge.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:59 PM

20. And you're back

Calling a 5th Amendment violation bullshit.

I do not think the interest here is in law and justice.

"Well, I don't like the guy, so violating his core rights at trial isn't that big a problem."

Honestly seems like what you're going for here.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:02 PM

22. I am calling his comments, decisions THROUGHOUT this proceeding bullshit.

Don't worry, that judge is determined to make sure he walks, so you can feel happy about that. (and it clearly appears that you will).

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:15 PM

25. Sure does.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:02 PM

23. Point taken

but bear in mind this is a partisan forum, not a forensic debating forum

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Response to Bucky (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:41 PM

34. It's a discussion forum is it not?

Are we all supposed to agree with one another?

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 07:02 PM

45. It's okay with me.

Just remember that there's plenty of folks here who ain't so okay with diversity. If you haven't been called a DINO, a Nader-doop, or a Republican troll (excuse me, I meant to type "Repuke-blow-kkk-on" troll), you haven't had the full DU experience

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:04 PM

24. I said nearly every other decision up to now has been biased along with his demeanor toward

the prosecution. I guess that is a concept that is difficult for you--for someone to see his actions as a whole, even if he may have called one decision correctly.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:24 PM

27. Commenting attorneys say different

Most of the attorney blogs and channels are saying the prosecutor screwed the case up with this and many other things.

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Response to manicdem (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:30 PM

29. You do know that two things can be right at the same time, right? I never said the prosecutor

bears no blame nor deserves no criticism.

Don't worry, though. It is clear that Kyle will be acquitted. I won't be sharing the champagne though. This is a redux of George Zimmerman. May this little shit's life be just as karma-haunted as apparently is Zimmerman's.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:21 PM

26. Prosecution screwed it up

To be fair, the prosecution has totally screwed the case up. Their witnesses were helping to defend rather than prosecute.

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Response to manicdem (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:31 PM

30. You already posted this to me. I won't be redundant and will send you to my previous response.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 04:31 PM

38. That's nice

I'm just going to keep posting and you can keep replying.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:11 PM

6. This judge is crooked

Now he's not allowing questions on what the defendant knows about gun laws.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:12 PM

8. The Judge is an old timer and is the longest serving judge in the State

He may not be crocked, but he most certainly is a wack job IMO.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:13 PM

9. I think he is weak. I have little hope justice will be done in this case. It all seems stacked in

the favour of the white power vigilante. The judge is a fucking POS.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 02:52 PM

17. omfg, this and what the judge started to "teach" the jury about the non lethality of hollow point

... bullets before he broke is gobsmacking

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:01 PM

21. a mistrial will very likely be granted 'with prejudice' so no retrial, as jeopardy rules apply

as it is due to prosecutorial misconduct

Every single lawyer I am seeing comment is saying this, especially after the prosecutor went after the judge and told him to stop interrupting him, plus he has now 3 times violated pre trial rulings and has tried to introduce character evidence that is banned under Federal Rule of Evidence Number 404, as well as trying to slip in inferences that violate the little asshole's 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination.


this prosecutor is a clown (so is the judge, so you have a perfect storm of volatility)

the lead counsel for the defence is loving life atm

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Response to Celerity (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:25 PM

28. this is a state trial why would the federal rules apply?

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Response to dsc (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:01 PM

39. because it is basic foundational jurisprudence for any criminal trial in the US, evidence of a

personís character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait.

There are some exceptions, but those exceptions are not germane to what the prosecutors was trying to do

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Response to dsc (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:03 PM

40. the 5th Amendment is in the US Constitution yet state and local courts are bound by it as well

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Response to Celerity (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:58 PM

42. I get that

but the federal rules of evidence does things like define hearsay and the like. I would think each state would have its own version of that.

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Response to dsc (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 06:38 PM

43. it's known at state & local levels as well as 404 prohibitions against character evidence

every single lawyer has been using that phraseology

here is the NC state citation, for instance

https://ncpro.sog.unc.edu/manual/703-3

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Response to dsc (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 06:41 PM

44. btw, propensity evidence is another term for character evidence that some lawyers use

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Response to Celerity (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:36 PM

32. I don't have a good feeling about this at all.

Obvious who the judge sides with.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:13 PM

41. Itis not just the judge, the prosecutor is really cocking it up as well, every legal commentator

that I have seen (over 10 now, all lawyers, prosecutors, or ex judges) is ripping him to shreds as well.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:38 PM

33. Exactly this.

He even let the court reporter admonish the prosecutor. This is a joke.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:15 PM

10. and just to visualize his weapon.......

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:15 PM

11. dig the USA flag

tissue box dude is provided by the court

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:20 PM

12. This kid is proud of what he did

He thinks it's the greatest thing, you can tell. He killed 2 liberals and the only thing he's sorry about is that it wasn't more.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:42 PM

35. I hope one day he gets that smirk knocked off his smarmy little face. nt

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 01:30 PM

13. Judge is ridiculous

Can't even talk about Rittenhouse pointing his gun at people.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:35 PM

31. He might have done well, but that judge is ruining his case.

Poor widdle boy is looking like a victim.

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:42 PM

36. Who's on the jury for this thing?

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Response to Scottie Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:48 PM

37. yeah he's a dirty judge. From the outset he started on against the media.

The media called him on his bs and he reacted like a guilty judge.

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