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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT JURY!!!! THAT ASSHOLE WAS GUILTY AS ALL HELL!!!!!!!
There is NO reason that the that POS Killer walks!!!!
Bettie
(16,076 posts)that's why he's walking.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)I wish I could go elsewhere, but few countries want people from the US moving there.
Johnny2X2X
(18,973 posts)The judge did not allow a fair trial, every second he was rigging it so the prosecution couldn't make a case.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)What the fuck??????
Bettie
(16,076 posts)someone will run against him next time he's up for election. He has run unopposed, but with the WI GOP trying to make elections, well, not actual elections anymore, I guess we'll see.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)Zeitghost
(3,850 posts)Provide some evidence of the judges racism? Did he say or do anything racist? If so, what?
Jose Garcia
(2,588 posts)One of the jurors was African-American.
Bettie
(16,076 posts)protesting the shooting of a black man.
To white supremacists, the worst crime of all is standing up for those who aren't white...being a 'race traitor'.
The fact that they were white was the ONLY reason there was even a trial.
LiberalFighter
(50,789 posts)The black juror was only an alternate.
Bettie
(16,076 posts)a room full of people eager to let him go free? The one Black person daring to object to a bunch of white people's firmly held belief.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Amishman
(5,554 posts)WI 939.48
(2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the persons assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
(b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.
(c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.
As soon as it came out that the jury wanted to review the drone video of the Rosenbaum chase, I was pretty certain this would be the outcome. Once KR tried to run and was being chased, nothing that happened before it really mattered given the wording of the relevant statute.
Dave says
(4,616 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)Edit: Removed my comments regarding self-defense and provocation because I missed that the jury already came back.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)That's a pretty big one right there.
themaguffin
(3,822 posts)Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Should have been guilty as all hell.
themaguffin
(3,822 posts)Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)And I have tried numerous jury cases. Why do you ask?
themaguffin
(3,822 posts)None of sat there.
Bettie
(16,076 posts)to kill those people.
themaguffin
(3,822 posts)Cattledog
(5,911 posts)This was jury nullification.
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)Hangingon
(3,071 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Hell kill again. Zimmerman has been in altercation after altercation since he was acquitted. Trying to be a smart ass. Rittenhouse will be no different.
Makes me sick to my stomach.
JohnQFunk
(408 posts)Drone footage shows the little bigot retreating/fleeing, which under Wisconsin statutes allows him to claim defending himself. Something tells me that the smug little fascist is going to discover that theCosmic Lazy Susan of Karma will not treat him well.
LonePirate
(13,408 posts)RegexReader
(416 posts)The only POC involved was the man that attempted to kick him in the face while he was on the ground.
Be careful of tampering with jurors, is that the precedent you really want to set?
Example: Want to have the homes of jurors & their families surrounded by armed militia members pointing lasers into the windows 24/7?
LonePirate
(13,408 posts)I believe the non-white jurors will be more honest about the verdict as I suspect the white members will offer a lot of bullshit and racism.
Happy Hoosier
(7,221 posts)The message this sends is that it's perfectly legal to go looking for a fight, kill people, and then claim "self defense."
Dave says
(4,616 posts)Chuuku Davis
(565 posts)So go the days of our lives.
Sugarcoated
(7,716 posts)entitled. Very likely the next judge won't be a Trump loon. The arc of justice is long but it gets there
Boomerproud
(7,943 posts)Beachnutt
(7,290 posts)folks will feel like it is their only defense as murder is legal now
Patton French
(748 posts)They judge the case that's put before them.
bdamomma
(63,801 posts)by a sick ass jerk who thought his gun "was cool looking".
Polybius
(15,336 posts)Don't blame the jury, with what was presented to them they may have had little choice.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Beyond a shadow of a doubt implies no doubt whatsoever.
IMO, there was no reasonable doubt that Rittenhouse was guilty.
Polybius
(15,336 posts)In this case there was no doubt that he shot three people. The only question was were any justified or not.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Our Nation, IMO, has become a denizen of sewer dwellers thanks to the RW.
Polybius
(15,336 posts)Hear all the facts from both sides, and have zero predetermined outcomes. Perhaps they saw something most of us didn't. For the charge against shooting Gaige Grosskreutz in the arm, the jury basically had no choice but to acquit. The others were more complicated.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Captain Stern
(2,199 posts)The twelve people that heard every bit of evidence presented in the trial. ALL of them were wrong? Every one of them were wrong? How did every single one of them get it wrong...while you got it right, without even being there?
Maybe be they didn't have the benefit of the insight that you had.....you know, random stuff on the Internet.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Your experience is?
No, they did not have the benefit of my insight. Over 30 years of legal experience and trial work.
Hint: Don't assume the person you are posting to has no experience in the field upon which you are commenting.
Captain Stern
(2,199 posts)I had absolutely no idea that you had over thirty years of legal experience and trial work.
You should offer up your expertise to the folks in Kenosha.
It sounds like they could use your help.
Or..you could just post here, and complain about the verdict.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)I have plenty of work in Los Angeles county and do not need to look out of state. But, thanks for the suggestion.
BTW: Thanks also for your permission to post here. I don't think I need your permission, but nice of you to give me the right to complain.
Captain Stern
(2,199 posts)It sounds like you would have a lot to contribute to this community. I'm all in.
I apologize if I gave the impression that I was granting you 'permission' to post. That's never been my permission to give.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Disgusting.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)and that was a given
MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)Even before jury selection. Man I really hate being right.