Kyle Rittenhouse was never on trial for causing harm with a deadly weapon

[randr]

His victims were on trial. They were tried for being threats to a boy with a gun.
They were found guilty and the sentence of death was ruled justified.

[Butterflylady]

1. Totally agree.

When the judge said they could not be called victims, that was the end of any justice for them.

[elias7]

2. If he had not brought a gun, they would not be dead

Makes no sense that this should be ok. Someone needs to be responsible for this. Rittenhouse was a minor and ignorant, perhaps the problem lay with the Kenosha PD who allowed him to be there and enabled his actions.

[gopiscrap]

6. and the fucking parents

[maxsolomon]

27. Dominick Black's stepfather?

He's the one that permitted the straw-purchased MSSA to be stored in his gun safe, he took it out of the gun safe when rioting started so it was "handy", he failed to prevent Kyle from retrieving it from his house that evening.

Dominick Black is facing charges for straw-purchasing a firearm for Rittenhouse. He's the only one that will pay a price.

Beyond the stepdad, I don't know which Parents you're blaming for what. Wendy Rittenhouse didn't buy the gun and didn't drive him to Kenosha. Her ex-husband has been a cipher this entire time.

[jaxexpat]

8. Absolutely the fault of local LEO's.

From alpha to omega. LEO was/is the problem.

[KPN]

18. So why is it the Rs could effectively defund public education, the Post Office, welfare programs and

sundry other public services and goods over the past 5 decades and we can't defund the police again?

[jaxexpat]

21. People still campaign on law and order platforms.

Really can't imagine an elected official who ran on defunding LEO anywhere but deep blue areas and they generally have fewer law enforcement problems already.

[KPN]

24. My point is exactly that: Rs run on "reforming education, welfare, environmental regulation,

hell -- regulation in its entirety, social security, "gub'mint", taxes which in conservative speak simply means defund or cut them.

[Polybius]

25. It all goes back to the police who killed George Floyd

Had they not done this, none of this would have happened.

[Tomconroy]

3. It is the essence of any self defense case to put the other

Person or persons on trial. That's the whole point.

[Paladin]

4. Agree 1000%. (nt)

[yardwork]

5. Threats to a "good white boy who was helping the police."

Threats by low-life criminal lefties (insert even worse descriptors here) who had the nerve to protest against police brutality and got what was coming to them.

That's the way much of white America views this case.

[Celerity]

31. +1

[llashram]

7. precisely

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. It's a little bit like putting rape victims on trial . . . . nt

[Fla Dem]

11. Yes, exactly!

[KPN]

19. More than a little bit in my view, but good point.

[Equomba]

28. In a way, some were.

I would imagine those who were raped by Rosenbaum twenty years ago, children at the time, have had some uneasy moments with him being in the headlines over the past year. Hopefully, had they blocked this out of their memory all this time, they have pursued professional help as a result.

[dalton99a]

10. Jury discussion:

"But look at who he shot!"
"A child molester!"
"And Antifa!"
"There is no way I'm going to convict that kid"
"Me neither"
"Nope"
"Heck no. He didn't do anything wrong"
"We can't ruin that young man's life over this"
"But we're supposed to discuss this"
"Yeah, the judge said we have to talk about it"
"Right. Let's get to know each other"
"Ok, what are you gonna do for Thanksgiving?"
"I hate to cook"
"Did you ever try fried turkey?"
...

[dchill]

12. Sounds like 'Murica.

[Polybius]

26. You forgot "I hear Pete Davidson is going out with Kim Kardashian"

"How does he do it, he's ugly!"

[FakeNoose]

13. I expected him to be found not guilty, but I'm shocked at the judge's behavior

All the hoopla around Kyle Rittenhouse tainted the Kenosha jury pool before they were even selected. There's no way the jury could have given an impartial (or even sane) verdict on that trial. But the ham-handed judge was totally unprofessional from Day One. He reminded me of Judge Ito, playing for the TeeVee cameras.

[marieo1]

14. Right On

Oh, my, how true!!

[Bettie]

15. As others have said

if the protest was so violent, why are the only people who died Kyle's victims?

[Jon King]

16. Sorry but the jury got it right, the laws there are bizzare.

Fact is the jury had no choice with the bizarre wording of the laws there. The law is that for self defense the jury has to decide what the person using self defense was thinking, not the standard of a 'reasonable person' like in other states.

So the jury had to look at it from a 17 year old kid being chased by a group of angry people and how that kid would react. I know it makes no sense, but that is the law there. Without a reasonable doubt too....so a scared kid reacted like he did is impossible to say no without reasonable doubt.

And the law is worded to allow him to carry that gun due to its barrel size. He did not buy it either.

So literally he committed zero crimes as bizzare as that sounds.

[KPN]

20. Meh. That's not how I would have looked at someone armed with an AR-15 who put himself in the

situation he was in with the forethought of acquiring and bringing an AR-15 to the scene for exactly hat purpose. Seeing it any other way is what makes no sense. He did exactly what he had the forethought to do. That's exactly what he was thinking.

[Amishman]

30. What you are focusing on is intent

Which is valid as 939.48 (2) (c) does state that a provoking action done with intent to cause bodily harm cannot claim self defense.

The problem is the prosecution came nowhere near proving that intent to the degree needed. The videos and witnesses backing up that KR did provide aid and did out out fires gives a counter argument that he really was there for those purposes.

On the other hand, other than the 'just trying to be famous' TikTok blurb, there was little to refute that narrative - other than simply judging him on character, which is not sufficient in a criminal trial. There wasn't enough specific evidence to prove that intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

[hydrolastic]

33. KPN Nailed it

[Dreampuff]

17. It sends a clear message to Young, redneck vigilantes.

Strap a gun to yourself and go out hunting.

[KPN]

23. Kyle Rittenhouse's life will forever be defined by his actions on that day in Kenosha. Despite the

outcome of the trial, this will follow and haunt him throughout the remainder of his life.

[LiberatedUSA]

32. Wisdom comes with age.

He will relish it for part of his life, along with the rightwing praise. The later half of his life will be when he really starts going over it and realizing it was all avoidable.

[Initech]

29. This whole trial was a sham and a farce.

And it was to send a message - don't fuck with the far right white supremacist gun nut cult. Or we will come for you.