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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLaurie is worried about COVID-omicron...
Link to tweet
(She had given us the same warning before the first COVID lockdown)
Initech
(100,079 posts)I don't think we'll be going into 2020 style lockdowns. But who knows?
dchill
(38,502 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Author: IHeard theSirensScream, TheComingPlague, Ebola & BetrayalofTrust.
So she either sees the world that way, or it's good for business, or both.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)...and she advised the Obama Administration on Ebola.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Just noting the parallels
Vinca
(50,273 posts)beaglelover
(3,486 posts)Were still recovering economically from the last shut down. Small businesses wont stand for another shut down and I support them in that!
Scrivener7
(50,950 posts)don't want to drown in their own secretions any more than anyone else) but as long as YOU don't like the idea of lockdowns, let the contagion rage!!!
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)If we were to hit 3,000 deaths each day, would you still support no lockdowns?
Calculating
(2,955 posts)And parts to work with, and customers with money to buy stuff, we cannot handle more shutdowns. We have vaccines which will just have to be good enough. More shutdowns will do nothing to stop COVID
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)In another thread, she says that she's hearing that vaccinated people get mildly to moderately sick. If that's the case, another lockdown would be warranted, but also unlikely.
Scrivener7
(50,950 posts)It might be another "epidemic of the unvaxxed."
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)we get the vaccination boosters and move on with our lives...Republicans and others have chosen death instead of life because of their worship of Trump. Of course, some are merely anti-vaxers and it has nothing to do with Trump. But they risk death and permanent injury as well.
My husband was out of work off and on for over a year as was I due to lockdowns. And in the end, there was no unemployment...no help really of any sort.... so no more lockdowns. They won't work with the unvaccinated idiots who will simply spawn more variants and become more violent IMHO.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Among otherwise reasonable posts.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)people are vaccinated. We will do what we can to keep kids in school I will fight to the death to make schools safe for kids. School closures have been horrifying for families.
Get vaccinated if you aren't. Get boosted if you aren't. Wear a mask. Open windows. Ventilate. Go outdoors to socialize.
We don't have to stop the world.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
radius777
(3,635 posts)There are certain activities (eg, eating) where one can't wear masks. But for most activities masking, distancing and ventilation work well enough for most of society to continue operating.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)This is important, and I don't think we will allow a total lockdown again like in 2020. It would push too many people over the edge (financially and mental health wise.)
ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)Experts are quoted as saying that a mutation significant enough to evade the antigens created by these vaccines, would no longer have the capability to infect human cells.
What we don't know is how much more or less effective these vaccines are against this variant. But, there's little concern that the vaccines will be wholly ineffective.
Also, the South Africans are reporting that while the spread of omicron is rapid, the preponderance of cases are mild. So far, this possibly more contagious form may be less pernicious.
I think it's too early to push the panic button.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)we still need to wait for the data, but panicking now is just going to push some people over the edge.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)in that we don't know a lot about this.
However, coming out of south africa, there are very few vaccinated omicron patients in the hospital. The variant doesn't seem particularly severe in those who have been definitely infected with it. And both pfizer and moderna said they can get new vaccines out relatively quickly.
The news is absolutely concerning, but we don't have to go to Def-Con 1 about it.
I am reacting against the sheer panic people instill in others right now because there are a hell of a lot of people who are exhausted and tired, and I've seen people exhibiting suicidal ideation in response to this.
We need to be cautious with our messaging.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)https://www.wsj.com/articles/dutch-authorities-isolate-61-covid-19-cases-among-travelers-from-south-africa-11638007221
The variant was confirmed by Sacco hospital in Milan, and Italys National Health Institute said the man had received two doses of the vaccine.
https://apnews.com/article/omicron-variant-covid-africa-uk-netherlands-1b344a86ff359a552aa5a64899a57ff7