Governor Whitmer is at the press briefing about the Oxford School Shooting

[Siwsan]

She is shaken and looks close to tears.

The shooter's parents won't let him talk with police, and they've hired a lawyer.

They really aren't able to give a lot of other information but said there will be another briefing at 10, tonight.

This is so heartbreaking.

[Budi]

1. The shooter is only 15 yrs old.

Fifteen.

😕

[SoCalDavidS]

5. Kids These Days nt

[SoCalDavidS]

2. The Parents Either Gave Him The Gun, Or Made Theirs Accessible To Their Son

AMERICA!!

[SYFROYH]

8. Likely, but some guns are stolen and/or sold on the gray market.

[SoCalDavidS]

11. Perhaps If He Was Older

Age 15, he probably got them from mom and pop.

[malaise]

3. Is he really 15?

[Siwsan]

4. Yes. And they've updated the numbers to 8 injured, 3 dead

2 are in surgery so they have no update on their condition and the rest are in 'stable' condition.

[malaise]

6. The gun pandemic

madness - we have the same shit here but at least they haven't reached the schools yet

[Siwsan]

9. They said the arrest happened within 5 minutes of the 100 911 calls received

And it was a hand gun.

Lots and lots of social media rumors. I'm going to definitely tune in to the 10pm press briefing.

[malaise]

10. Keep us posted

[Siwsan]

12. Will do!

[SoCalDavidS]

7. I Don't Like Tuesdays Either

[Rebl2]

13. Didn't

know parents had authority to keep children from talking to police in a shooting situation.

[llmart]

14. This is just absolutely horrid.

I live about 20 minutes from Oxford. This hits a little too close to home for me. I can't even imagine how the parents of students at that school felt when being alerted of the news.

If we don't get a handle on the proliferation of guns in this country, this will never stop. I have a little six-year old granddaughter and I don't know what I would do if something like this happened at her school.

In the year 2000 I attended a million mom march on the state capitol in Lansing. They lined up a pair of shoes on the Capitol steps to show how many people had lost their lives to guns. I could barely hold it together seeing the tiny sneakers and others. Here we are almost 22 years later and it's even worse.

[SoCalDavidS]

16. Game Over

We're not going to get a handle on it, any more than we're going to get a handle on Covid.

This incident will be all but forgotten by tomorrow. Even when there is a trial, it won't be a big national news story.

IT IS WHAT AMERICA IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

I do not like being blunt with those who remain optimistic that change might happen, but it's just reality at this point.

If anything, the battle is to keep gun rights from becoming more prevalent. There is ZERO hope of turning it the other way. Again, it's just what America is, and why I wish I could go elsewhere.

[llmart]

18. So let's just all give up on it.

That's never solved anything. I have to believe that there WILL come a time (not in my lifetime since I'm old) when these young people who live with this on a daily basis and who will remember how scary this was or the friends that died in a shooting will turn this around.

I have a little granddaughter and I have to believe that this will change. She is in kindergarten in a school about 10 minutes from the one where the shooting took place. I will NOT give up fighting for gun control and speaking out for it and voting for politicians who support it.

[SoCalDavidS]

19. And If That's What You Want, I Salute You

I’ve given up. I’d rather spend effort on things there are a chance of saving. Like abortion rights.

This nation likes guns far too much, and we’re willing to let people die in order to protect the bullshit 2nd amendment.

I’m sorry that’s what your granddaughter will grow up around, but I find it useless trying to fight what America is.

[llmart]

20. I like to think we can do both.

I intend to keep fighting for both in whatever way I can. I'll march and I'll write letters and most of all I'll vote Democratic as I've done all my life. I will do this until my last breath.

As my older sister says, "what the hell else do we have to do with our time now that we're retired anyway?"

[Torchlight]

21. Variants of "It is what it is" are an excuse that absolves us of all responsibility.

It implies power and hope have been stolen from from those who refuse to protest injustices. It says, “I surrender to these circumstances and relinquish any say I might have in them.”

We know full well that we are to blame for the mistakes we make. No person enjoys admitting that they’ve done wrong, but part of life is owning up to our wrong doings and not pawning them off onto a complicit method of thinking.

An overused cliché cannot shield us from our poor choices any more than saying that we no longer want to take responsibility for what will happen will stop what will happen.



That's not optimism, that's a paraphrase of George Orwell-- whom I would think no one would refer to as an optimist.

[Srkdqltr]

15. Watching the news people on our local tv a lot have kids and they live

In the northern 'burbs . A lot look and sound shocked. It is horrible. My kids are long out of school as are most of my grands. I have one in 6th grade and worry. She has told me they have drills. Great grands aren't in school as yet more worries.

[Shellback Squid]

22. I wonder if some of the parents, or one parent really don't care if their kids commit these acts

it does not make sense

[gibraltar72]

17. Yes Gretchen was close to tears.

Every fiber in her being was aching to say this is what Republicans want. However she just teared up.

[Takket]

23. i hate to sound cold but this is the extent of the conversation i had with my wife about this:

Me: Is anything going to change?

Her: No.

Me: Moving on.