My career of treating patients has ended

[demmiblue]

After more than three decades as a physician, the Q maniacs have succeeded in driving me out of providing care to patients. I, like many of my colleagues, am moving into medically-adjacent work, where we can continue to apply our training and decades off knowledge without ever having to come in contact with sick people.

I've been able to deal with the years of patients who attended Google Medical School, and the hours wasted explaining things such as why cinnamon cannot be used to treat diabetes, or that garlic and beetroot can't treat HIV. And Lord save me from essential oils.

COVID and Q finally proved to be the one of amateur "experts" that was too much for me. The horrific deaths are beyond what you might imagine. They emerge almost unrecognizable to their families. Since June, I have never seen a horrible case of someone who was vaccinated. I have seen people struggling to breathe through lungs that have hardened to near uselessness, begging us in their ignorance to give them the vaccine now. We can tell, almost without fail, which ones will die when they come through the door of the ICU, but we do everything in our power to keep them alive - BIPAP, ECMO, ventilator - knowing we are stretching out the inevitable. We use paralytics with ECMO and ventilators, then ease them off to see if they can function. And as the drugs wane, the look of terror emerges, the tears. We try to calm them, to swallow our desire to scream at them: This is your fault! This didn't have to happen! Often, their spouse or their uncle or neighbor is nearby, dying along with them. And we work hard for those rare cases where we can pull them back from the edge.

I could deal with all of that. What I can no longer handle is the screaming, not from the patients, but from the families. They are not screaming in anguish, or in recognition of how their foolishness has led them to this point. No, they are screaming at me. Because, you see, I am part of the global conspiracy to commit genocide. If only I would give 10,000 mg of Vitamin C - even though the body can only absorb a maximum of 100 mg a day, with the rest creating the world's most expensive urine - they would be saved. Or hydroxychloroquine. Or ivermectin. Those have never been studied, they assure me, and when I tell them they have been, they snap that I don't know what I'm talking about. I want, oh god I want, to tell them that if we are the ones responsible for killing their loved ones, then why the hell have they brought them to the hospital? Why throw them into our clutches? I know the answer: They know it is all lies. But their egos are so huge they cant bring themselves to admit it.

My breaking point came three weeks ago. I dealt with a particularly horrible case. This was a husband and father, 38 years old. A wife, two daughters, one son. All of age to get vaccinated, none vaccinated. If you could have seen his face, and the ravages left by both COVID and the time he spent prone on his stomach. An enormous clot kept reforming in his leg, and we had been forced to amputate his foot in hopes of keeping him alive. When he was awake, the look of terror in his eyes, the crying, the pain. It was nothing new. But the begging, over and over, "Don't let me die." And "Give me the vaccine." All I could tell him is "We won't let you" - although I never said we might not have any choice in the matter. And I told him, repeatedly, it was too late for the vaccine.

He begged me to bring in his family. A nurse called them, because they had never come to the hospital. They refused to wear masks, and so would not be admitted. The nurse told the wife that her husband was likely dying, and was begging to see them. All she cared about was masks. She would only come if she and her daughters didn't have to wear any.

The nurse came to me and told me the wife wanted to speak to me. I got on the phone and she ordered me to cure him with ivermectin and vitamin C & D. I explained to her, those do not work, they have been extensively studied and the amount of ivermectin needed to treat even mild COVID would kill a human being. Once again, I was told I was ignorant. I asked her to come down to the hospital, to bring her children, to at least wait outside. Somehow, she agreed.

The nurses were all busy, and I took over the role they usually perform, comforting the dying. I sat beside the man's bed. Through tears, he rasped out sounds I could vaguely understand as a question. I guessed at what he was asking, and assured him that yes, his family was coming. He was so frightened, and I could tell he knew death was unavoidable. I'm not religious, but I knew he was, and I talked about the comfort of Jesus as I held his hand. About a minute later, he coded. We tried to save him, but there was nothing to be done. He died.

Twenty minutes later, I heard from a nurse that the family was here, that they had made a ruckus down in the lobby demanding to be let upstairs without masks, and had been thrown out of the hospital. I consulted with a few colleagues who agreed to cover me so that i could speak to them in the parking lot. I took the elevator down, and asked security to point out the family that refused to wear masks. Fortunately, they had not left.

I stepped outside, went to the wife, and identified myself. I told her that I was sorry, that we had done everything we could, but her husband had passed a few minutes earlier. I did not manage to get the words of the sentence fully out of my mouth when I felt the fist strike my face and heard the screamed words "You murderer!" I fell backwards, tripped, and plopped onto the pavement, the back off my head striking asphalt. I vaguely heard the words being screamed about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and god knows what else. I heard "you could have saved him if you listened!" I tasted blood from the top of my lip. It took a moment to know it was seeping from my nose, which she had broken. My mask was getting wet, and thus useless. Security grabbed her. They were getting ready to call the police, but I knew if they did, I would become the next national target for the Q maniacs. I told them to just put her in her car. I wasn't going to press charges. I went back to the hospital.

I started looking for a new job the next day. I will never treat a patient again.

Thank God.

https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/comments/rakxun/my_career_of_treating_patients_has_ended/

[MineralMan]

1. I'm sure that physician is not the only one who

is contemplating leaving the practice of medicine.

[catrose]

11. I saw a post somewhere that nurses who entered the profession this year leave it after 3 months

Not their job, the profession. I'll post the link if I can find it.

A friend's child, who was a military medic, is considering leaving nursing because there's got to be a profession where you don't get assaulted every shift.

[TexasBushwhacker]

51. And we already had a severe nurse shortage

as well as a shortage of primary care physicians. The thing that's funny to me, but won't be to the RWNJs is that we have NO CHOICE but to import these medical professionals. So while the RWNJs are grumbling about being treated by Indian and Chinese doctors and Filipino and Nigerian nurses, I'm know that it's because their antics drove the Americans away.

[LoisB]

44. Probably not. It's sad.

[McKim]

73. Our Daughter Sometimes Cries After Work

Our daughter, a physician, sometimes cries when she comes home from work, trying to hide it from the kids. It's not just the Anti vaxer COVID patients, its the medical system and how people in poverty can't pay for the right medicine or get their procedures approved by the insurance company. Without a national health service we are ALL screwed, doctors, nurses and patients alike!

[Trueblue Texan]

111. I probably have one of the lowest stress jobs in the medical field...

...but even I am ready to leave. I work as a home health occupational therapy assistant and the unending stress level is almost more than I can handle. I cannot even imagine what the health professionals in the COVID hospital wards are going through. I simply couldn't do it. It's almost more than I can handle in my relatively low-stress setting. But the mask, the gowns, gloves, the educating of reluctant patients, the ignorance and crazy notions about ivermectin and other dangerous remedies. Sometimes you just want to scream and rip your hair out of your head. When I do leave my job, I will not go back to patient care. I'm just sick and exhausted of dealing with it all.

[Drum]

2. Bookmarking

[cate94]

3. Jesus

I can’t stop shaking my head. What the hell is wrong with people?

[COL Mustard]

32. I Know This Is Harsh, Especially At This Time Of Year

But I wish they would all just hurry up and die so the rest of us could get back to normal.

[thenelm1]

39. "Evolution in progress."

I'm with you. If these damned fools aren't willing to help themselves...

[lunatica]

60. Let them get recycled then

for those who believe in reincarnation.

[smb]

43. If They Are So Determined To Die, Let Them Be Quick About It And Decrease The Moron Population nt

[ShazzieB]

103. I see what you did there, and I approve this message!

[I_UndergroundPanther]

94. I feel the same

The sooner these narcissistic asshole rightwing culties die off the better for everyone else..

Die faster maga assholes.

Quit abusing the people trying to save lives. Your self deception is disgusting and your clinging to it like rabid fools assaulting doctors and nurses is even more disgusting..so die off
already.

And fuck all you maga monsters.

[yardwork]

117. I hear you. I certainly wish they would stay out of hospitals.

I'm also sorry that this man didn't press charges, although I understand why he didn't.

[dalton99a]

4. Murdoch should be tried for crimes against humanity.

BTW Murdoch got his vaccine last December

[catrose]

13. December! Before it was available to any of us.

I'm 1B and couldn't get mine until the end of February. (I was eligible earlier, but there was none to be had.)

[dalton99a]

17. Yep. He wanted other people to die.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-murdoch/murdoch-receives-covid-19-vaccine-as-fox-news-host-casts-suspicion-on-campaign-idUSKBN28S2J7

December 18, 2020 11:44 AM
Murdoch receives COVID-19 vaccine as Fox News host casts suspicion on campaign
By Kenneth Li

(Reuters) - Media baron Rupert Murdoch received a dose of the COVID-19 vaccine this week, a day before prominent opinion host Fox News’s Tucker Carlson raised suspicion over the marketing strategy for the vaccine.

The 89-year-old executive chairman of Wall Street Journal owner News Corp and chairman of Fox News’s Fox Corp received the vaccine at his local doctor’s office in Britain on Wednesday after being told he was eligible, a spokeswoman confirmed on Friday.

On Thursday evening, Carlson, host of “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” one of the highest rated shows on U.S. cable news, opened his show highlighting the case of a health worker in Alaska who suffered an adverse reaction to the vaccine and warned viewers to be skeptical of the “glitzy” public campaign.

[catrose]

21. And they all claim to be good Christians

Which if true they'd be quaking about meeting their God and hearing what said God thought of their deeds.

[COL Mustard]

34. I Couldn't Get The Jab Until April And May

I love how the rich and powerful were able to get it earlier and still maintain that it's all a fake. I guess those tornadoes in Kentucky were fake news too. Maybe they helped some anti-vaxxers along the way.

[modrepub]

5. I Can Guess This Doctor Is In A Red State/County

Saw this a few days ago:


Republicans' trust in doctors is eroding. It's a symptom of a larger disease

What would happen if GOP voters just stopped trusting their doctors?

It's not an idle question. A new Gallup poll indicates that Republicans are feeling increasingly shaky about the medical profession: The number who say they are confident in their physician's medical advice has dropped 13 points since 2010. Twenty-two percent report they trust their doctor less than they did just a year ago.

That's a problem: Trust between physicians and patients is an essential component of health. One 2017 study revealed that patients who have confidence in their doctors tend to adopt healthier behaviors and report fewer symptoms of illness. Another study the same year showed that breast cancer patients who had less trust in the health-care system were less likely to complete their course of treatment.

When Republicans distrust their doctors, in other words, the more likely it is they'll get sick and stay sick.

That could lead to other ramifications. Republican and Democratic voters tend to sort themselves by geography — Democrats to the cities, GOP voters in rural areas. Those rural areas already have a tough time attracting doctors, and the result is that many sick people go without care. Gallup's poll makes it easy to imagine a vicious cycle where even more doctors would decide not to take jobs in places where they'll be ignored, which would lead to more sick people, which in turn would help hasten the decline of those rural Republican communities.

It's difficult to think that would be good for the GOP. But conservatives have been waging a war on expertise for a long time. Unfortunately for them, that war could take a serious toll on the health of the Republican Party and its voters.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. I'm sorry, but the Qonned are self-owning and taking others down with them. . . . nt

[Kablooie]

25. But it never decreases their trust in Republicans

They would literally rather die than stop being a Republican.

[EleanorR]

38. undermining the public's trust in institutions is important to those desiring an autocracy

Distrust in the media, science, academics, government.

[Ruby the Liberal]

95. If it wasn't for the contagion factor

I wouldn't lose a moment's sleep over this. They're in stage 2 - 'finding out'.

Unfortunately, they are the drunk drivers who are hell bent on taking out as many others as they can.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. We lose another good doctor.

I can't help thinking that nature is taking its course, removing the nutbags who refuse to listen to good medical advice. And this has to be hardest to witness for the those who have sworn to save lives.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. "refuse to listen" is built on sub-components

Fear, paranoia, mistrust, invincibility, self-righteous belief in one's own abilities, determination, confidence, pride .... all these things are along for the ride and must be checked at the door to place trust in the medical professionals treating a family member. Sometimes many family members are ok with the doctors' judgment, but the family leader has some of these traits that diminish acceptance and cooperation. Everyone knows the outcome of a serious illness may not be perfect, but Americans continue to think it can be. Life has difficult moments and hurdles, this is one of them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Cult members seek confirmation, reject contradiction. They've been lied to by corrupt people. . nt

[wnylib]

76. Couldn't he continue treating patients

in a different capacity, without taking on covid patients?

[Botany]

10. Who needs a B.S., a M.D., an intership, and a residence when you got the internet and facebook?

"Since June, I have never seen a horrible case of someone who was vaccinated."

Putin has been successful beyond his wildest dreams in ripping America apart in installing TFG into the White House.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017698152

[Jon King]

12. I have an MS in Microbiology, amazing how stupid I am about virology.

Just yesterday the guy who does maintenance at the tennis center taught me all about virology. About the 50th 'expert' who taught me all about it during this pandemic.

America has one natural resource in abundance, a population of people who have absolutely no idea how utterly clueless they are.

The maintenance guy also told me how his stocks "tripled" under TFG. The market went up 56% during his administration. So these people are not only internet medical experts, they just make stuff up out of thin air.

[dchill]

22. It's not bad enough that they make stuff up out of thin air...

... it's that they BELIEVE IT! Just like their orange godfather. It almost seems like this mental illness is contagious in some way that is transmitted over the internet.

[former9thward]

26. But what did his stocks do?

If you have your money invested in individual stocks he may have tripled his investments. If it was invested in a stock index fund then it would have gone up 56% or close to it. Or maybe he made it up.

[DENVERPOPS]

47. A guy I know in the building trades

who is 64 lost his entire retirement nest egg a couple of years ago, by putting it all in some investment group advertising on Rush Limbaugh's radio show.

He blames it on Dems not protecting the working class from crooks..............

[LymphocyteLover]

113. Dunning-Kruger has never been proven more right than these days

[Traildogbob]

14. My daughter is

An ICU nurse. My Niece is a medical doctor.
Huge hearts. Only want to help people. This story makes my blood boil. This crap has one source of blame. Right Wing, Q, Fox, and GQP. A deadly cancer In society. While shouting Jesus and God.
I hope that wife will soon be joining her husband, but banned from hospital care while she suffers. But first enjoy a jail cell for assault. There is a bright red shit hole in the middle of this country.
Massive amounts of lead in our environment is on full display. Stupid us too kind a word. This is EVIL stupid. God damn these idiots. Literally, God…….damn them, they shame you.

[kcr]

29. ICU nurses are awesome

I've been in the ICU a couple of times after surgical procedures, and each time my ICU nurse was just the best.

[GeoWilliam750]

81. Nurses are angels

There is no other explanation

[packman]

15. God bless you- Did your best

[William Seger]

16. Right-wing propaganda intended to poison our politics is poisoning our entire society

I truly fear that we cannot survive this.

[Botany]

31. "Right-wing propaganda intended to poison our politics is poisoning our entire society."

But in many other ways too. Look @ the science deniers on climate change which is based on
on one of the Universal Gas Laws that is >250 years old and it says the more CO2 you have in
a body of gas the more heat that body of gas can hold.

[mainer]

18. Patients need to be informed: no Ivermectin given here

They should be told before they’re admitted to the hospital. They and their families need to sign a form that says they understand and accept this. Some may decide to go home instead. Good.

[HighFired49]

30. What amazes me

is that they could treat themselves with, vitamins, ivermectin, etc. Why go to the hospital and demand it there? Whew, total disconnect!

[dianaredwing]

82. My thoughts too

Can't there just be a big self-service area outside of hospitals stocked with the crap they say they want, free for the taking? If would probably be cheaper than admitting them to the hospital and would surely be easier on the hospital staffs.

[mainer]

85. Great idea.

It would simplify life for the rest of us.

[multigraincracker]

33. Also, post directions to the nearest

farm supply store.

[Takket]

49. absolutely...........

[3catwoman3]

19. Stay the hell home and get your ivermectin from...

...Tractor Supply or Farm and Fleet. Or get in touch with America's Frontline Doctors (Quacks).

These eejits don't get vaccinated because they don't "believe in" them for a variety of bogus reasons, yet they demand doctors administer treatments the doctors don't "believe in" for sound scientific reasons.

[PatSeg]

20. K&R

[Initech]

23. My deep seeded hatred for the Q cult knows no boundaries.

Fuck these fucking morons!

[copperearth]

24. This is disgusting

When good doctors and nurses are forced{mentally) to leave the medical field we have sunk low. At the rate we are going we will be a third world country. Sad and sickening.

[BarbD]

27. First of all, I applaud you for doing your best for so many years.

But now I wonder what kind of future my granddaughter has who is finishing up her last year in Med School. She is loaded up with a huge debt from student loans, plus experiencing all this stupidity first hand from her mother who is a nurse on the front lines.

[gab13by13]

28. I want to post something, but I can't.

I live among Trumpers and I learned quickly not to debate or question anything they say, it is pointless. It reminds me of how years ago I took all of my vacation to stay with my dad while my mom was in the hospital for incurable brain cancer. They operated on her and took out the cancer but the surgeon said it would just come back. He told my dad and I we would have 6 weeks of quality time with her, boy was he wrong. She wasn't my mom anymore, they also took out that part of her brain. My dad and her did everything together and now she was being mean to him, always confused. A nice nurse told us not to ask questions or disagree with her because it would only upset and confuse her, we could only comfort her.

It isn't fair to compare my mom to these monsters, she didn't choose to be that way, these monsters choose to be monsters.

[pidge]

35. I am not internet savvy....how do we know this is really true ?

[packman]

40. From Reddit on comments - pays to read

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I just read through your comment history to see if this was a story. Your history makes for harrowing reading. I'm so, so sorry you have been attacked like this. I'm sorry that the pain of treating covid patients has transformed to mostly treating antivaxxers. And dealing with their violent insanity.

Please keep helping people to hear your message. Thank you for all those lives you saved early on when we didn't have a vaccine.
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Starry

Holy shit......his/her comment history is absolutely horrific. If you have any doubts on the validity of this post, you can easily verify that OP is in fact an infectious disease doctor. So insane that these people are physically assaulting doctors now, they are way to far gone.



NOTE: Reddit viewers/commenters are ruthless investigators about post. Have no doubt-Doctor's post is true

[demmiblue]

67. Thanks for adding that.

A note to others who are questioning this (which is a good thing, imo): I checked out some of the comments on the thread and the posting history of the account before I brought it here. Yes, there is always a chance that this person may be fake, but I do believe that they are on the up-and-up. Oh, and, I became aware of the post on Reddit because Laurie Garret retweeted it.

[GoneOffShore]

116. Laurie Garrett is the best. I read The Coming Plague years ago and it frightened me then.

It still frightens me.

[Celerity]

102. +1

[LymphocyteLover]

114. I do wonder why the doc decided to publish it on Reddit

I'm not doubting it but wondering his reasons.

Maybe he wanted to remain anonymous but it would make a good op-ed for a major publication.

[Tree Lady]

121. I read some of his other comments

I think he is still trying to reach people on the fence about vaccines.

[arlyellowdog]

36. This seems like it should be true

But there is just stuff about it that seems weird. Why did a doctor write on Reddit? Why did he not call the police? I’m not saying doctors don’t quit (my oncologist just did). I’m just saying I question this.

[packman]

41. Read above post

[Blue_Adept]

46. He explains quite clearly in his post why he didn't call the police.

[arlyellowdog]

50. That's the part I didn't buy

A crazy conspiracy woman attacks me and accuses me of killing her husband so I don’t call the police in the theory that then she will just drop the whole thing? I believe that doctors are user attack. I just don’t believe this Reddit thing.

[packman]

69. Sigh----

[McKim]

77. I Know for a Fact.....

I know for a fact that some medical personnel in one of the mountain states do not wear their scrubs out in public, coming and going to work for fear because they do not feel safe on the street. The threats are real, the fear is real.

[DBoon]

80. I got that they didn't call police because it would become public knowledge

and every Qanon in the vicinity would attack them and their family relentlessly.

Rather than one punch to the face, this medical professional would find every minute miserable.

[stopdiggin]

84. reading comprehension not quite up to snuff

here's the relevant piece:

They were getting ready to call the police, but I knew if they did, I would become the next national target for the Q maniacs.

The charge would quite clearly stick, and easily (there were multiple witnesses that wanted to call the police) - but the weight of the incident (in publicity and crazy) would fall upon the physician.

Oh, and incidentally, this type of behavior in hospital settings is being reported all around the country. Sorry that this particular one manages to strain your credulity for some reason.

[soldierant]

100. The theory you state is not the theory the doctor posted.

Read it again.

Or let me explain: 1. If the doctor were to press charges his/her name would be in local newspapers.
2. The entire area is garnet red
3. Garnet red areas have no shortage of people who will gladly attack decent people whose names they see in the newspaper, not limited to death threats but all the way up to planting live bombs and shooting AR-15s.

[ShazzieB]

105. That. Is. Not. What. He. Said.

Here's the quote, copied and pasted from the o.p. (with emphasis added by me):

Security grabbed her. They were getting ready to call the police, but I knew if they did, I would become the next national target for the Q maniacs. I told them to just put her in her car. I wasn't going to press charges. I went back to the hospital.

He absolutely did NOT say anything about expecting her to "drop the whole thing."

EDITED TO ADD: After I posted the above, I went to reddit to read the comments there. Someone asked thanosrain (author of the o.p.) about calling the cops, and he said the following:

Physical and emotional exhaustion. A recognition that doing so would be putting a target on me, my family, my colleagues and my hospital for all of the violent Q-Anon people. The arrest would be local and possibly national news. It would subject these children to deep pain. Worse, though, it would hit Facebook, and within no time, my name, my kids' names, and my wife's name would be all over their sites. All of us would be threatened. These people are unpredictable, but seem to crave violence. I don't want to be responsible for one of my colleagues being shot in the parking lot because I became a national symbol of Q-Anon hospital violence.

Makes sperfect sense to me.

[cab67]

118. I completely get it, but...

...another comment on the Reddit thread expressed what I think is a strong reason to have pressed charges - that the children in this case might end up in the custody of a more responsible adult.

(Or not. Chances are, they'd be placed with family rather than foster care.)

The doctor probably did the right thing here.

[OneGrassRoot]

110. We joke about it, but how realistic is it...

at this point to set up separate tent hospitals for the anti-vaxx/anti-mask folk, manned by sympathetic (or equally delusional) anti-vaxx/anti-mask health personnel? I know segregation is a dirty word but this is a public health crisis that is ongoing, with future pandemics increasingly likely and the same delusional, irrational people will keep doing the same dangerous bullshit pushing people we need out of their chosen field of service.

Like this doc said, I too wish they could ask these idiots why the fuck they brought their loved one to the hospital to begin with if they don't trust anyone other than their cult members and grifter leaders?

I just don't see anything healing in this country. The rift is a huge, gaping chasm now. The platitudes of unity are lovely (and throughout my life I espoused the same...interbeing, interconnectedness, yada, yada) and I believe that, ultimately, that is the goal and best way of being in this world, but it's a losing battle at this point given how delusional and cultish a significant percentage of this country and rest of the world is now - openly and proudly.

Rather than daydreaming about a mostly unified citizenry with the common good being the agreed upon priority, I have more realistic yet still likely improbable daydreams about how to seal off the crazies from the rest of us. It really is a death cult and we need to protect ourselves, not try to understand and engage them. We understand them all too well; some of us just don't want to admit how heinous fellow humans, including former friends and family, really are, regardless of the influences upon them that brought out their true nature. The adults are making a conscious albeit irrational choice over and over again. I feel for the children though and wouldn't want to seal their fate though by removing rational, caring influences from their lives, so that part of segregation is complicated.

[AllyCat]

98. He/she SAID why police not called.

Who wants to have these freaks show up at their house? They are completely insane.

[captain queeg]

37. So much of this I've seen, but not up close and personal

I haven’t known anyone personally who was hospitalized or died. It seems to me like the crisis is past. But that’s because I live in a pretty red area. Everyone I know is fully vaxed. And I’ve been barely going out for the last two years. I was hoping soon I’d be able to travel, but that’s obviously not in the cards. But I do know some antivaxxers. My oldest sister is one. I’d mentioned to a different sister that I’d like to see the oldest while she is still able to communicate. She’s dying of cancer. I talked to her in the phone awhile ago, the sister who I’d told I’d like to see the oldest had told her, which kind of pissed me off. The eldest sister has been sending me letters try to get me to accept Jesus before it’s too late. Anyway, she wanted me to come visit. I had pretty much decided I wouldn’t go (it’s the other side of the country). I told her I didn’t want to travel now due to covid, which is true. She went off on a tirade about how it’s all lies and government effort to kill people. The conversation didn’t last long and convinced me to forget about making the effort.

On top of that her daughter is in the area and acts as gate keeper. She’s the one who has filled her with RW ideas. There’s no way I’d spend a lot of money to go back there and listen to their shit. I had a friend who just died from cancer who was an antivaxxers. His death was due to cancer, but the idea that he knew more than the doctors killed him too. He tried to tell me about the great conspiracy to reduce the population a few times and I’d always cut him off. I’m fortunate that my area and the people I know are sane. It’s scary how so many people will die rather than admit their cherished view is wrong.

[keithbvadu2]

42. Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wante

Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wanted?

[captain queeg]

89. That's a good idea.

[C Moon]

45. Thank you! "Since June, I have never seen a horrible case of someone who was vaccinated."

This needs to be SCREAMED to the public—even on DU.

[Tetrachloride]

48. There are other places in the world that welcome help

[Takket]

52. what is up with these idiots asking for vaccines when they are already dying?

How stupid can they be? You don't cure a disease with a vaccine, it is a preventative measure. Asking for the vaccine in the hospital is like asking the rescuers pulling your bloodied and broken body out of the car wreck to "please buckle my seatbelt for me, i realize now it was a mistake to not do it earlier"

[Pas-de-Calais]

53. Reddit locked the conversation

It got too violent against the ones who promote the idiotic ideas

[roamer65]

79. Sadly.

[iluvtennis]

54. Just heartbreaking the story of the father who had to die alone because his wife refused to

wear a mask to be with him. This dad could have avoided getting deathly ill had he just taken the vaccine. SMDH.

[housecat]

55. Let the lunatics go home and cure themselves far away from hospitals with amazing doctors and nurses

[mrsadm]

56. How can anyone on earth think a doctor with 8 years of training and long years of experience, would

not know more than them? How is this possible?

Where is the brainwashing machine??? Fox? social media? rural churches? Don't even backwoods schools teach some semblance of science? (not to single out all rural people)

Sometimes I think Darwinism is at work, separating those not able to survive modern life, from those who can. Perhaps that is what is happening.

[captain queeg]

90. Well doctors can make mistakes or have preconceived ideas

An individual doctor. But when you got thousands, maybe millions saying something you have to have the Dunning-Kruger effect (can’t remember the exact name) running rampant to ignore them.

[moondust]

57. Global shortage of nurses.

-Many nurses report burn-out from two-year pandemic - ICN

-ICN says 'intention to leave' rates have doubled

-West recruiting more nurses overseas including from Africa

~

At least 115,000 nurses have died from COVID-19, but Catton said this World Health Organization figure from the start of the pandemic through May was conservative and the true figure is probably twice that.

There was already a global shortage of 6 million nurses pre-pandemic and some 4.75 million nurses are due to retire over the next few years, he added.
~
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/global-shortage-nurses-set-grow-pandemic-enters-third-year-group-2021-12-10/

It didn't have to be this bad.

[camartinwv]

58. What a relief it must be after the tremendous effort and heartbreak of the past couple of years.

Thank you for your dedication. I am so sorry you had to experience that.

[barbtries]

59. propaganda.

it's killing us. i figure if that insane woman had had a machete in her hand the poor doctor would not be alive to tell his story.

free speech is one thing. there should be a law against free LIES.

[lunatica]

61. I hate to say this but at some point

some gun nut will walk into a hospital and shoot everyone in sight because his spouse or parent or child died of COVID there.

[Retired Engineer Bob]

68. That is my fear as well

I would be nervous about working at a vaccination center, especially one that catered to children. These people are deluded and heavily armed.

[MustLoveBeagles]

74. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already

[KentuckyWoman]

63. Subjectively, the exodus from patient care in hospitals feels like the fast lane.

My former cardiologist was attacked inside the hospital back in September bad enough to put her in hospital for 2 weeks. She also did not press charges in spite of being begged to do so. The attacker did it out of a mix of covid and religion (she wears hijab). She is my friend now, and no longer my doctor for that reason. She has not decided what's next.

At my local hospital I had an unfortunate reason to be in ER last month and was appalled at how the staff is being worked. They are so short handed. They are tired, they are discouraged. One told me the hospital treats them VERY well but the perks just aren't worth it these days and people are deciding to quit and simply not showing up for a shift.

My niece is an ER nurse in Austin TX. Over the summer they were told to stop wearing scrubs in and out of the hospital and everyone from doctors to housekeeping have panic buttons. A whole section of the parking lot now has a big fence with razor wire on top for staff parking. They all have to in and out at the ER and security is always there. She keeps kicking around leaving hospital nursing but hasn't made a switch yet. She told me the new nurses aren't lasting a year and nearly everyone she worked with a year ago has moved on.

[Hekate]

64. The tragedy of it all

[Nululu]

65. Sad that malign ignorance and stupidity driving out gifted professionals

It's bad enough that their willful ignorance is killing people but it's also prolonging the pandemic.

[nolabear]

70. Watch the documentary "First Wave." It will gut you.

I can’t even ask “how did we get here” any more. A part of the population is sad and ignorant and afraid and that BASTARD who just wants to grift (and all his ilk) are killing then in droves, and breaking the good people who might help us all.

[Stuart G]

71. k and r for exposure..

[lpbk2713]

72. Doesn't everyone want to be treated with livestock medication?

It must hurt to be that stupid.

[applegrove]

75. That was so upsetting I could not finish reading it. Thank you

for your service.

[Evolve Dammit]

78. They are literally killing themselves and others with their brainwashed beliefs. 45 loves it. n/t

[Mr.Bill]

83. In my state, California, assaulting a health care worker

is the same as assaulting a police officer. It's a felony charge. Probably that way in many states. It's your decision, but I would want her prosecuted if for no other reason to keep her from maybe killing the next doctor.

[Demovictory9]

86. OMG!! I respect your decision but she broke your nose, could have killed you. wish she was

charged. Maybe her dead husband is enough of a punishment

[kairos12]

87. So terrible. I wish you the best. And some respite.

[keithbvadu2]

88. President Trump's Medicine Show

President Trump's Medicine Show

[onecaliberal]

91. Thank you for hanging in this long.

You deserve every good thing in the world.

[myohmy2]

92. unbelievable...

"I did not manage to get the words of the sentence fully out of my mouth when I felt the fist strike my face and heard the screamed words "You murderer!" I fell backwards, tripped, and plopped onto the pavement, the back off my head striking asphalt."

...let them kill themselves off...they don't deserve you, your skills, talent or compassion...

...I don't know how our healthcare providers put up with it...I couldn't do their job providing healthcare to idiots day after day...

...I would have given up a long time ago...

...

[FakeNoose]

93. K & R Must Read!

I have no words ... other than "Oh my God!"

[Land Shark]

96. My Sister, 30 year nurse in nursing home

Here are some additional burdens our nurses carry. Using my sister (30 ye nursing home nurse) is my source.

1. The nursing homes go in and out of having Covid cases. When they go back to opening the Covid wing with the first positive everybody is getting insane hours. Many wanting to quit because of the insane hours. 8s are usually becoming 16 hour shifts.

2. Nursing home residents largely get what they want. If they want vitamin C they tell them to take it up with the doc. Docs here do prescribe prednisone and zinc and stuff for COVID as their protocols allow. Residents are quite needy. And very difficult when sick, as are most people to a lesser degree.

3.. They hate Covid which is very stressful, and they also hate the PPE complaining about headaches. Acne, and other irritations and Minor symptoms. But doing their part - though sometimes with grumbling.

4. When nurses have to wear what they locally call the jetpack PPE they really don't like it at All - so they have a hard time understanding how hospital COVID nurses survive, basically. Respect.

5. This is not a hospital but they still have Republicans. Not as hard core as in the OP but folks are nice in these parts. But the stresses of the job are such that it is a challenge to be constantly pleasant with all 45 residents given understaffing.

6. Mandate came down but an injunction stopped it. They would have lost more staff to firings and my vaccinated sister might retire from nursing altogether if they go through several firings and can't immediately replace them. {See next)

7. Cuz It's the hours. Even when my dad was passing away at home hospice care, my sister went to part time but was still working full time hours because they don't let her go for 16 hours. Double shifts turn part time to full time. She's back to full time which means crazy time.

8. Rivalry between RNs and LPNs. Complicated.

9. The report from here is no Covid for the moment. But it takes VERY little now to stress the system.

So Covid can swamp medical services but it don't take much here. Like 1 patient means the whole Covid wing reopens and work gets much heavier. . Little things that might otherwise be handled are straws that break the camel's back.

10. They understand nurse shortages some, but still, kind of wonder why this for profit facility has not introduced more redundancy to prepare for surges without destroying the employees. Nurses need support, even without Covid.

[nvme]

97. Fcuking Death Cult

I will stoically watch you suffocate if you are suicidal enough to kill yourself with Covid.

[IbogaProject]

99. Insane to refuse to be w her husband

Insane to refuse to be a her husband. I can sort of understand someone not believing a mask could help themselves and being selfish enough to not care to protect others. But to refuse to wear a mask to be able to see your very sick husband is truly insane.

[BigmanPigman]

101. Tons of teachers are saying Good-bye too.

Underpaid, overworked, disrepected, mass shooting drills, etc and now Covid and the idiots who scream at teachers and school boards is the last straw.

[SunSeeker]

104. Crazies screaming about "CRT" are trying to recall our school board.

It is completely insane. And I live in Orange County, California. I can only imagine what it's like in red states.

[BigmanPigman]

107. Every day I am grateful I am out of the profession.

My friends tell me all about it though.

[Nay]

115. A friend who is a gifted teacher has just left teaching. She couldn't take it any more, and

she is not a timid person. She has a strong personality and has helped many adolescents in her teaching career, but she is no longer willing to endure the long hours, abuse, neglect, etc.

[ShazzieB]

106. Thanks for posting this.

It deserves all the exposure it can get.

That subreddit (QAnonCasualties) is wild. I started reading but didn't get very far before I had to go do something else to clear my head. I'm glad there's a place like that where people can talk about those kinds of traumas, but YIKES.

[randr]

108. Many good people have taken a bullet in this fight

Don't let the fuckers win. Their are far more of us and some of us will need you.

[Joinfortmill]

109. OMG, I am so sorry. Best of luck with your future. It's time to

Shut down FOXNEWS, once and for all.

[LymphocyteLover]

112. A perfect and awful example of how Foxnews is tearing this country apart and creating chaos

Where are the lawsuits against freaking Foxnews???

[cab67]

119. not pressing charges was probably smart.

But you know what would be ethical? Requiring this poor man's family to cover all costs. Insurance, if they have any, should deny coverage. If they're on Medicaid or some other public welfare program, that should also be withheld.

This should be true of each and every person who shows up for COVID treatment who was capable of getting the vaccine, but who consciously declined it.

Why should my tax dollars or insurance premiums be spent treating someone who could have helped end the pandemic and prevented themselves from getting seriously ill, but who chose the path of selfishness and ignorance?

I would also call on the various crowd-sourcing platforms (e.g. gofundme) to immediately delete pages calling for donations to defray medical or funeral expenses for those who declined the vaccine and ended up getting sick or dying from COVID. If someone like this mother can't afford to bury her husband, that's on her husband, and that's on her. No one should be helping her solicit donations.

Yes, I feel terrible for the children in this case. They didn't ask for any of this. But again, their grief should be laid right where it belongs - at their parents' feet.

I'm growing remarkably furious at these people. This could all have been largely over by mid-year.

[joanbarnes]

120. Thank you doctor for your dedication and service. More proof we are living in a Darwin moment,

starting to wish that natural selection moved a bit faster....