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DFW

(54,436 posts)
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:51 PM Dec 2021

Moral dilemma that took about ten seconds to resolve

A friend of mine is from a very backward (to us coastal folks) part of Tennessee on the Missouri border. He is a rare bird in those parts. He is a solid Democrat who got his ass handed to him when he ran for Congress. He is a devout Christian, which I can't even fathom, being more of the George Carlin school of thinking on the subject. Friendly irreconcilable differences, call it. My friend truly believes the whole thing, tax, title and license. I believe in George Carlin, though I do not pray to Joe Pesci.

However, my friend in Tennessee is genuine, the absolute real thing. Compassionate, caring, and exuding a friendship that just radiates authenticity.

So, when I got his message that his home town of Dresden, Tennessee was demolished, with people left with nothing but the shards of the contents of what used to be their homes, I responded--immediately and substantially. I don't buy the "there, but for the grace of God, go I" line. My version is a simple, "wow, that could have been me!" And when you look at this photo he sent, you do NOT want that to have been you:



There were plenty of other towns that got demolished, too. LOTS of them. The difference here is that my friend and his extended family all live here, and he asked his friends, of which I am one, for help. If it had been my family, he would been one of the first to ask what he could do, and then do it to the extent that it was in his power. I can, and will, do no less.

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Moral dilemma that took about ten seconds to resolve (Original Post) DFW Dec 2021 OP
He lives in Dresden? - yikes lame54 Dec 2021 #1
What's left of it, yes. DFW Dec 2021 #3
Just thinking of Kurt Vonnegut lame54 Dec 2021 #4
I don't know if their paths ever crossed DFW Dec 2021 #7
Slauterhouse Five features the bombing and leveling of Dresden... lame54 Dec 2021 #8
Oops. I should have known. DFW Dec 2021 #9
💕 blm Dec 2021 #2
You are such a good friend, my dear DFW! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2021 #5
Well said, CP and DFW. We are complex and can hold many as friends that have very different beliefs. erronis Dec 2021 #22
Sorry to hear what happened to your friend Bayard Dec 2021 #6
+1. you're absolutely right stopdiggin Dec 2021 #10
All the best to your friend and to you. The photos I've see all show towns that look like they've ... Hekate Dec 2021 #11
That's exactly what my wife said DFW Dec 2021 #13
Terrifying destruction. Wishing your friend well. LoisB Dec 2021 #12
Thanks. I hope to hear from him DFW Dec 2021 #14
How awful! mcar Dec 2021 #15
It really looked like the end of the world DFW Dec 2021 #16
Yeah, that's what I meant mcar Dec 2021 #17
Ten seconds? DFW, I doubt if it took you even that long to decide to help. panader0 Dec 2021 #18
Well, to tell you the truth DFW Dec 2021 #19
Kick. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #20
I just heard about the line of tornadoes earlier today. Horrific. Of course you are helping niyad Dec 2021 #21
I donated to a Kentucky fundraiser Skittles Dec 2021 #23
Good, thanks DFW Dec 2021 #30
I grew up in Tornado Alley, although at a different time when storms were not so bad. Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #24
Here you go, and thanks for ANY help you wish to offer! DFW Dec 2021 #28
I remember Dresden as a sleepy little farming town Lars39 Dec 2021 #25
Can we help? chloesmom Dec 2021 #26
There is indeed DFW Dec 2021 #27
Here is the link and an address DFW Dec 2021 #29
Thank you! chloesmom Dec 2021 #31
EVERYTHING helps, so thanks! DFW Dec 2021 #32
Just donated again chloesmom Dec 2021 #33

DFW

(54,436 posts)
7. I don't know if their paths ever crossed
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:00 PM
Dec 2021

He never mentioned it. I should probably ask the next time I see him. I was hoping to see him in 2 weeks in South Carolina, when we go to the USA, but I don't even know if he can get out of there (or wants to) under the current circumstances.

lame54

(35,321 posts)
8. Slauterhouse Five features the bombing and leveling of Dresden...
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:03 PM
Dec 2021

Germany in WWII

Vonnegut was a prisoner there when it happened

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,699 posts)
5. You are such a good friend, my dear DFW!
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:58 PM
Dec 2021

There isn't much you can do from that distance, but I'm sure you'll think of something.

We are a complex species, we humans. There can be so many seemingly irreconcilable aspects to each of us that you have to wonder how we hold it all together. Your friend is a supreme example of such a person, and good for him!

erronis

(15,328 posts)
22. Well said, CP and DFW. We are complex and can hold many as friends that have very different beliefs.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 09:49 PM
Dec 2021

I think my richest friendships are with those who have different perspectives; but are still willing and able to discuss these on intellectual and personal level. Leaving as friends.

In my few years here with DU I've met a lot of people who are like that. Only virtually, but it's still real.

Bayard

(22,149 posts)
6. Sorry to hear what happened to your friend
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 07:58 PM
Dec 2021

It was a terrifying and sad night for so many.

We all need friends like you both. I actually have a couple like that that are repugs, but we're always there for each other.

stopdiggin

(11,361 posts)
10. +1. you're absolutely right
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:11 PM
Dec 2021

there is no moral dilemma here. People are hurt, people are heart-sick and crushed - people have nothing. And the 'human' response is to come to their aid. Doesn't matter what church, or which side of the aisle ... If you have a problem with that - you need to get yourself some more 'human.'

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
11. All the best to your friend and to you. The photos I've see all show towns that look like they've ...
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:14 PM
Dec 2021

… been leveled by bombs in a war.



DFW

(54,436 posts)
13. That's exactly what my wife said
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:17 PM
Dec 2021

And being from Germany, she knows a thing or two about the subject.

mcar

(42,372 posts)
15. How awful!
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:31 PM
Dec 2021

I am so sorry for what these people are going through and I really don't care how they vote.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
16. It really looked like the end of the world
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 08:51 PM
Dec 2021

I care plenty about how they vote, but I don't put that in the same category as seeing their lives violently ripped from under them. It's one thing to be an idiot about vaccination. It's quite another to be at the mercy of a 200 MPH tornado tearing the walls of your house /and maybe a family member or two) away right in front of you.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
18. Ten seconds? DFW, I doubt if it took you even that long to decide to help.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 09:25 PM
Dec 2021

You're a good man, and helping a friend, even one with differing ideas, comes natural to you.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
21. I just heard about the line of tornadoes earlier today. Horrific. Of course you are helping
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 09:44 PM
Dec 2021

your friend. That is who you are. Utterly heartbreaking for so many people.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
30. Good, thanks
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:08 AM
Dec 2021

LOTS of small communities in dire need right now. Surely plenty of "never-heard-of-the-place" towns are in desperate straits.

Lonestarblue

(10,066 posts)
24. I grew up in Tornado Alley, although at a different time when storms were not so bad.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:46 PM
Dec 2021

Please let me know how I can help, My own family and friends in the areas hit by the tornado are safe, but I am ready to help those who have suffered losses and need help.

Lars39

(26,116 posts)
25. I remember Dresden as a sleepy little farming town
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:59 PM
Dec 2021

to drive thru on the way to the university. I didn’t know they had gotten hit.
That looks really bad.🙁

DFW

(54,436 posts)
29. Here is the link and an address
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:28 AM
Dec 2021

You can make a tax-deductible donation at: https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-volunteer-centers-fundraiser-for-dresden-tn?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1



Or, mail a check to:



The Volunteer Center

Attn: Disaster Relief

PO Box 5

Dresden, TN 38225

I usually never use online contributions, as the full amount gets picked over by the various agencies collecting the money and passing it on. I usually send a check, but in this instance, I did use the online version, as the need is of extreme urgency. A check from Europe would take two weeks to get there.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
32. EVERYTHING helps, so thanks!
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:17 AM
Dec 2021

He's probably never even heard of DU, so I'll tell him at least one donation will be coming because of it.

chloesmom

(30 posts)
33. Just donated again
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:28 AM
Dec 2021

Hi, I checked the GoFundMe tonight and the goal hasn't been reached yet. So I donated again. I hope more DU'ers will be able to donate.

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