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Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:41 AM

House Committee finds trump's biggest crime against humanity

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/house-committee-trump-covid-19/index.html

House oversight committee releases report detailing efforts of Trump administration officials to 'undermine' Covid-19 efforts in US

By Lauren Fox and Daniella Diaz, CNN

Updated 8:53 AM ET, Fri December 17, 2021

(CNN)Trump administration officials made "deliberate efforts to undermine the nation's coronavirus response for political purposes," a House oversight committee led by Democrats said in a report released Friday.

The committee, which spent months working to interview former Trump officials, said the administration worked to undermine the public health response to the coronavirus pandemic by blocking officials from speaking publicly, watering down testing guidance and attempting to interfere with other public health guidance.

Many pieces of the report were a summation of documents and interviews they've released throughout the year, but the report also outlined new examples where health guidance was adapted despite officials' concerns about the potential harmful effects of the changes.

In one instance, Dr. Jay Butler, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told the committee he was upset and concerned about guidance he was directed to update in May 2020 for faith communities. He said he feared that some of the altered guidance about masking and other church practices could potentially put lives at risk.

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Reply House Committee finds trump's biggest crime against humanity (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 OP
madaboutharry Dec 2021 #1
agingdem Dec 2021 #5
halfulglas Dec 2021 #17
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #6
niyad Dec 2021 #11
Tumbulu Dec 2021 #12
agingdem Dec 2021 #23
niyad Dec 2021 #26
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #29
niyad Dec 2021 #33
agingdem Dec 2021 #37
2Gingersnaps Dec 2021 #34
stage left Dec 2021 #9
2Gingersnaps Dec 2021 #36
uponit7771 Dec 2021 #38
Beachnutt Dec 2021 #2
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #4
Magoo48 Dec 2021 #27
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #43
Magoo48 Dec 2021 #45
CrispyQ Dec 2021 #31
uponit7771 Dec 2021 #39
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #44
spanone Dec 2021 #3
malaise Dec 2021 #7
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #15
Duppers Dec 2021 #19
Stuart G Dec 2021 #8
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #10
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #20
piddyprints Dec 2021 #22
CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #13
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #21
bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #14
certainot Dec 2021 #16
onecaliberal Dec 2021 #18
Beachnutt Dec 2021 #25
Ponietz Dec 2021 #24
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #30
Ponietz Dec 2021 #49
33taw Dec 2021 #28
lindysalsagal Dec 2021 #32
Tommymac Dec 2021 #35
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 #40
live love laugh Dec 2021 #41
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #42
BSdetect Dec 2021 #46
albacore Dec 2021 #47
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #48

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:45 AM

1. The follow-up question:

Why did none of these people call a press conference and expose this travesty?

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:54 AM

5. they said nothing because they were scared

Trump would put a target on their backs..he would destroy their careers...and Trump was notorious for creating chaos as a diversion from the truth

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Response to agingdem (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:16 PM

17. This is the insidious power of the authoritarian despot.

The government scientists, lawyers and other employees who fear that their jobs and even careers are in jeopardy. They may have decades invested and fear how they would support their families. He and his minions have put targets on the backs of so many already. Look at the venom with which many Republicans still speak of Dr. Fauci. They are relentless. They threaten jail. So many fear not just for their livelihoods but their lives.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:00 AM

6. But Dr Jake Butler wrote an email + he's "haunted"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/house-committee-trump-covid-19/index.html


In one instance, Dr. Jay Butler, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told the committee he was upset and concerned about guidance he was directed to update in May 2020 for faith communities. He said he feared that some of the altered guidance about masking and other church practices could potentially put lives at risk.

Butler told the committee that while he wasn't aware of any examples where the guidance had adversely impacted the health of Americans, "that concern will haunt me for some time."

He wrote in an email about the change that he was "very troubled on this Sunday morning that there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do."

"I was doing a lot of soul searching about whether or not I should have agreed to even make the change in the document," Butler told the committee when asked about his words. "Clearly, it was a
directive, but that was a real struggle as I felt like what had been done was not good public health practice."


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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:46 AM

11. Gee, jay, what about that oath you supposedly took? You know? Something

about "first, do no harm"??? You f'n, gutless coward.

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Response to niyad (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:51 AM

12. Agree! There are so many of them!!!!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:40 PM

23. 800,000 dead and he's "haunted"

well, better haunted, spineless, and employed then vocal and heroic...right, Jay???

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Response to agingdem (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:47 PM

26. But, only "haunted" for "some time", not for the rest of his gutless, oath-breaking life.

I hope the ghosts of those who died as a result of his cowardice haunt him to his grave.

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Response to niyad (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:14 PM

29. Picked up on that too. Guess tho there's an IOTA of

me that thinks we can't look at it through today's lens. Who among them ever in their wildest dreams would have ever thought that leaders would side with lies and obfuscation over the welfare of the people?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:44 PM

33. It was the TRAITOR**. Why would anyone think anything else?

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Response to niyad (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:20 PM

37. and then there's Birx...

so enamored with Trump and center stage she said he was "attentive to the scientific literature and details"..uh huh...and when loathsome Trump suggested a Clorox cocktail with an injected Lysol chaser as a maybe cure-all, did Deborah jump up and scream "Are you out of your fucking mind?!!", no, she grimaced and stayed silent..and then came the Scott Atlas herd immunity roundtable (Trump in attendance) but rather than join in the discussion (her conscience and all) she agreed to quietly go away as to not cause the orange cretin any embarrassment (the sonofabitch was systematically killing hundred of thousands of Americans and Debby was concerned her non-attendance might reflect badly on him??) ..so Jay Butler screws with the data and Birx face plants and slithers away...no dereliction of duty there...they want redemption...they ain't gonna get it!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:47 PM

34. Only to get slap back from the people who demand to be told what they WANT to hear

"the information and directions kept changing! How can we believe what they say?"

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:37 AM

9. +1

The land of the free and the home of the brave sure has a lot of abysmal cowards living in it.

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Response to stage left (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:58 PM

36. From Sally Yates through the Vindamans to Secretary Esper

a vicious thug revealed first with DoJ what happened to people who thought they could just keep their head down and do their job. The very idea that "the FBI was in Hillary's pocket and tried to destroy poor innocent manly conservative pious devout reverent tRump" was/is the kind of bullshit reality TV couldn't make up, and late night comedians wouldn't.

I mean seriously! Threatening your school board, stalking them, terrorizing them....like your State Health Department, your Elections officials, and your Governor trying to keep you alive.

His rape victims have to go to the Supreme Court to get his DNA evidence, he drags litigation out for years to bankrupt them before they ever see a day in court. Andrew McCabe had to sue for his retirement having been fired a couple of hours away from twenty years, so hell no Rod Rosenstein didn't tell Mueller the FBI wasn't following the money, and Rod Rosenstein didn't tell the the third or fourth FBI director Mueller wasn't following it. Rod won't have to sue for his retirement.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:47 PM

38. +1

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:47 AM

2. Whats going to be done

about this ?
Anybody going to be held accountable ?

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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:53 AM

4. It MUST be spread far and wide. For the sake of those of us who lost loved ones

Due to this travesty. We need it to help us heal

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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:03 PM

27. Think I'll just wait and see, because

expectations are most often found skipping down the street with disappointment and resentment.

As a lifelong environmentalist and progressive, Iíve had Lucy (Uncle Sam) pull the ball back at the last minute too many times.

I donít like feeling disappointed, and resentments are extremely damaging.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:43 AM

43. You are very poetic

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:59 AM

45. Thank You.

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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:19 PM

31. At the very least,

our side should be flooding the media with ads showing these numbers and pointing the finger at Trump. Throughout 2022, we need to remind people that it's because of Trump & current republican leaders like DeSantis, that we are in year THREE of this fucking pandemic.

If you want this pandemic to end, vote & vote dem.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:50 PM

39. Our message mechanics suck, based off recent history we don't know how to flood a communication ...

... medium with a political message or ... just wont.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:50 AM

44. +1000000. I tell you if we can't come up with something on

this one, then something is seriously broken. This is a full on legitimate atrocity. And frankly, it must be very disheartening too for all those committee people... Must be thinking JHC we spent all this time doing this? And the masses won't hear about it?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:50 AM

3. Another reason why tfg should be banned from politics for life, worldwide

From the article:

In one instance, Dr. Jay Butler, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told the committee he was upset and concerned about guidance he was directed to update in May 2020 for faith communities. He said he feared that some of the altered guidance about masking and other church practices could potentially put lives at risk.

He wrote in an email about the change that he was "very troubled on this Sunday morning that there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do."


HEY DOC, NO ONE FORCED YOU TO DO ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD HAVE RESIGNED AND GONE TO THE MEDIA....FUCKER

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:15 AM

7. He should be indicted for this

That is all

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:13 PM

15. Yes. Someone here said 140k people dying can be attributed directly to trump

How on God's green earth can he get away with this. Makes me cry Bilking people out of job and money and reputation seems to pale to this.

Yet I have never heard any ptb talk about indicting him nor impeaching him. I would take a written censure, if we still could

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Response to malaise (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:19 PM

19. Absolutely!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:16 AM

8. TRUMP IS A KILLER, & This proves it !!!!!...K AND R

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:40 AM

10. Aren't Republican governors doing the same thing right now? What about Fox News?

They have law suits against vaccine mandates and wearing masks and a few courts have gone along with them. The Pa. legislature just overruled our governor's mandate for masks in schools. People are going to keep dying because of GQP actions and non-actions.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:20 PM

20. You are exactly right. In TX, I saw first hand Abbott would meet with FG and

then wait 2 days and lift mask mandates. So Abbott is guilty too of negligence.

What you say about lawsuits too... People can't sue because of covid negligence... Was vitally important to GOP... Yet THEY can sue over masks. What a fucked up evil twist that is.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:36 PM

22. Yep.

My governor is one of them. They will kill as many people as they can.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:52 AM

13. And according to experts, about 140,000 Americans died as a result.

Imagine how Reich wingers would have lost their shite if ISIS or "illegals" killed 140,000 Americans, but if their beloved Trump does it it's ok.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:21 PM

21. Because he got them to blame Gy-na

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:09 PM

14. It fed their innermost wet dream - conquer the libs while God protected them

and they really didn't care who they wiped out as long as opposition to their greed, pollution, exploitation, dictatorship died.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:14 PM

16. TFG wanted it to get worse. limbaugh is dead but there is a pic of him meeting with trump

christmas 2019 and they were all serious. there were others there. they need to be asked if limbaugh was being asked to call COVID a hoax, or if there were witnesses to other limbaugh trump conversations about COVID. because libaugh would not have called covid a hoax so long if tfg

intel knew COVID was serious by then and would have briefed tgf by then. did trump ask them or others about worst case scenarios and when he was told he might have to declare national emergency and delay elections if it got really bad.

in 2014 the october surprise was ebola. limbaugh and russian tool jerome corsi were yelling about it coming across the border with immigrants, it was obama's fault, and everyone needed to be very afraid. GOP got 9 new senators incl some of the current motherfuckers

in 2019 team limbo was starting to use the congo ebola scare and social media was being used in congo, maybe with rw radio, to get locals to attack clinics and make it worse - russians helping trump do it again?

they got that outbreak under control but along comes COVID. why not use disease again?tfgg is stupid enough to think they could use COID the same way

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:16 PM

18. I have been saying this for two years.

When will he be charged? He killed 700,000 people. He LIED repeatedly and we have receipts. He should go to The Hague.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:45 PM

25. He lied daily on camera

no denying it.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:43 PM

24. All pathological cultures demand human sacrifice

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:16 PM

30. Wow! interesting. Please expound

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:23 PM

32. It's murder. He should be indicted for the hundreds of thousands of deaths.

I'm sure ER docs and staff heard many of them quote the orange idiot verbatim. People have been killed with far less evidence. He's on national TV minimizing it all. He's already testified for the prosecution, repeatedly.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:54 PM

35. K&R for the 800,000 who can't kick anymore.

Another nail in TFG's coffin.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:04 PM

40. Those people are evil

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:34 PM

41. Don't forget Jared's "leadership". 🙄

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:47 PM

42. My head is exploding that this is not the #1 story in the land!

Nothing on Twitter. Not even a one day story. We must have zero PR

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:57 AM

46. Another atrocious revelation and he's still holding fund raising scams at large?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:00 AM

47. Four solid minutes of trump downplaying the seriousness of this pandemic. nt

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Response to albacore (Reply #47)

Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:10 AM

48. Great find! Slimebag. Just saw this from John Hopkins doctor

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