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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:31 PM Dec 2021

I tried to go shopping this morning.

I wanted to go to some small local shops to help them a little bit. The first store had a sign saying that masking was required. I went in, one other customer came in unmasked, the owner asked them to please wear a mask. The guy lost his mind, began screaming about it not being legal in America to require it, he said he was going to call the cops.

I could not hold my tongue, I told him it was a free country, he could go find a disease friendly shop to shop in. He glared at me screamed "damn liberal we should shoot every one of you". I picked up my phone to call 911, told him what I was doing, he almost fell down running out of the store. I asked the owner if she wanted to call the police, she declined. She told me it was common occurrence.

These people talk a good game but they know they are wrong, they know they could get arrested, the flee like little chickens when you stand up to them. We have to start calling them out, they are clearly dangerous.

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I tried to go shopping this morning. (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Dec 2021 OP
they have literally chosen DeeNice Dec 2021 #1
Yep, they do not want to be called racists, which they are. redstatebluegirl Dec 2021 #2
Truth, sadly. blm Dec 2021 #6
If one would literally rather commit suicide than soldierant Dec 2021 #28
Ten years ago RWers used to say that the "liberal hunting license" bumper stickers and so on highplainsdem Dec 2021 #3
I wonder how ling this country's enemies have been helping them divide mahina Dec 2021 #8
I've started seeing more masks again in stores. MineralMan Dec 2021 #4
I would have trouble finding anywhere to shop here redstatebluegirl Dec 2021 #5
So would I. Even some groceries are no longer requiring employees to wear masks. Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #23
same here Sogo Dec 2021 #24
I've also noticed when the covid numbers rise, many more wear masks MyMission Dec 2021 #14
What happened to corporate requiring them? They did that in 2020. Maggiemayhem Dec 2021 #17
Not all corporations require masks, especially MyMission Dec 2021 #58
Well the CDC has this posted on it's mask requirements Farmer-Rick Dec 2021 #60
Just returned from my local Schnucks grocery store. IL Dem Dec 2021 #26
was at a regional grocery store where i lived and it was almose 100% AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #44
Can't love America and hate Americans, wingers. mahina Dec 2021 #7
Your last sentence seems like a bad idea as stated. Agree that as a whole Hortensis Dec 2021 #9
Yes, they are a dangerous faction of our society 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #42
Actually, I think anyone hanging on social media hears about a large Hortensis Dec 2021 #47
i was called a communist pinko pig by my high school rop instructor AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #45
Lol, meaning depending not just on the intent but the source. Hortensis Dec 2021 #50
People assume I'm conservative. I don't know why. fwvinson Dec 2021 #48
How disturbing. :) I've read that most people can fairly reliably guess Hortensis Dec 2021 #51
Around here, I'm not sure that if you called the cops they wouldn't show up to take the side....... jaxexpat Dec 2021 #59
My county has mask mandates in public places, CrispyQ Dec 2021 #10
our local police chief and county mountie wont enforce . i live in AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #46
Putin has been wildly successful in getting America to rip itself apart by installing TFG Botany Dec 2021 #11
+1 Thunderbeast Dec 2021 #16
You got that right Maggiemayhem Dec 2021 #18
Add in 2.5 generations of hate talk talk radio, Fox and the like on TV, social right wing media, .. Botany Dec 2021 #20
Need I remind them that it cut both ways in Yugoslavia? roamer65 Dec 2021 #12
Most won't know what you're talking about. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #39
Very true. roamer65 Dec 2021 #41
Unfortunately PatSeg Dec 2021 #13
How would they have survived in the seventies and eighties? Maggiemayhem Dec 2021 #22
Yes, it is like some of these people were born yesterday PatSeg Dec 2021 #29
Actually, yes on the meltdown for shoes. Tommymac Dec 2021 #56
Oh yes, I can picture that PatSeg Dec 2021 #61
Fascists are all the same. eShirl Dec 2021 #15
Way to go.... Sogo Dec 2021 #19
This is the problem.. Snackshack Dec 2021 #21
Probably one of those law and order RWers...who also has a warrant. Lucky Luciano Dec 2021 #25
I always have my cell camera app ready to go. n/t TeamProg Dec 2021 #27
It's starting to remind me of Mad Max. Whole communities have gone insane. yardwork Dec 2021 #30
It's the bully game. If they can bully someone, they get jollies & might get to shop unmasked. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #31
I live near a large department store with great prices & groceries, not a walmart, have a shopper yaesu Dec 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 #33
Good for you! But stay safe. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #35
Afraid your right. Ferryboat Dec 2021 #36
I'm so glad you're safe! Lunabell Dec 2021 #37
I would have loved DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #38
whoa! brilliant move, bluegirl!!!!!! bluboid Dec 2021 #40
Stay safe. Seems like they are a bit cray where you are at. cayugafalls Dec 2021 #43
:) Good handling, pleasant interchange, just like normal Hortensis Dec 2021 #49
Wasn't it the repugs that came up with, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." so they could Hotler Dec 2021 #52
They do want to kill us. How is this not civil war? Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #53
Correct me if I am wrong but ... jimlup Dec 2021 #54
Good job! I applaud you. Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #55
Ya done good! nt Atticus Dec 2021 #57
Why do people have to lose it when asked to wear a mask? mrsadm Dec 2021 #62
"Damn liberal. We should shoot every one of you." Kid Berwyn Dec 2021 #63

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
2. Yep, they do not want to be called racists, which they are.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:35 PM
Dec 2021

If they make it about masks, it is not about race and easier to sell.

soldierant

(6,938 posts)
28. If one would literally rather commit suicide than
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:50 PM
Dec 2021

admit to being a racist ...

why be one?

Oh, wait, we're talking MAGAt logic. Never mind.

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
3. Ten years ago RWers used to say that the "liberal hunting license" bumper stickers and so on
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:37 PM
Dec 2021

were just a joke. I even had a RW relative who talked about it, haha, till reminded how many family members are liberals.

Now the assholes sound much more serious about it.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
4. I've started seeing more masks again in stores.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:39 PM
Dec 2021

For a while, it seemed like nobody but me and store employees were wearing masks, but I'm seeing more customers in masks again. I just got back from the supermarket, and noticed that right away. At local businesses, if I go in and the people working there aren't masked, I just turn around and take my masked face somewhere else to shop, after saying, "No masks. No customer."

MyMission

(1,851 posts)
14. I've also noticed when the covid numbers rise, many more wear masks
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:08 PM
Dec 2021

I work in retail, and many customers do wear one, or have one ready and put it on when they see we are all masked. Although there are many who don't wear one, some ask if they need to wear one and would do so if we required it. We don't. Others state they've been vaccinated and gotten boosters, their reason for not wearing one. Still, seeing more wearing a mask too.

Masks are not required, only recommended, by the CDC and NC. My bosses do not have a sign asking people to wear one as we did when it was mandatory. Folks wear them on airplanes, and while we all hear about the occasional maskhole, most flight are peaceful and folks comply. I think many people would wear one if requested and required in most settings.

It's like people do risk calculation in their heads, and put the mask on when numbers climb, feel more secure when they start going down and are less likely to wear one diligently. I've continued to wear a good quality mask, to protect myself from COVID, colds and flu. Common sense.

MyMission

(1,851 posts)
58. Not all corporations require masks, especially
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 11:42 PM
Dec 2021

Since the vaccine has been available in 2021 and since the CDC announced masks are not required for those who are fully vaccinated. Corporations are shifting to vaccines being required, but not masks. I think masks should still be required. Then the idiots who aren't vaccinated would have to wear them instead of going maskless and pretending they're vaccinated.

Different states, cities, counties, as well as large corporations to small businesses have different policies or mandates on masks. And these change, based on numbers going up or down.
Lots of vaccinated have taken their masks off, but very few unvaccinated have continued to wear masks, if they ever did.

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
60. Well the CDC has this posted on it's mask requirements
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 08:35 AM
Dec 2021

"Everyone 2 years or older who is not fully vaccinated should wear a mask in indoor public places.

In general, you do not need to wear a mask in outdoor settings.

In areas with high numbers of COVID-19 cases, consider wearing a mask in crowded outdoor settings and for activities with close contact with others who are not fully vaccinated.

People who have a condition or are taking medications that weaken their immune system may not be fully protected even if they are fully vaccinated. They should continue to take all precautions recommended for unvaccinated people, including wearing a well-fitted mask, until advised otherwise by their healthcare provider.

If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection and prevent possibly spreading COVID-19 to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

So yeah, they are not recommending wearing masks in all indoor spaces, except for the unvaccinated.

AllaN01Bear

(18,534 posts)
44. was at a regional grocery store where i lived and it was almose 100%
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:00 PM
Dec 2021

compliance . at our local walmart about 50/50. im setting up an appointment for my 3d shot. many below the nosers or under the chin , which dosent help. im glad she threatend to cal 911. i would have gone full krakatoa on him.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Your last sentence seems like a bad idea as stated. Agree that as a whole
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:55 PM
Dec 2021

they constitute a real and present danger to our democracy.

However, absolutely no to challenging "clearly dangerous" people. Someone who's "lost his mind" and "screaming" is likely to react dangerously to accelerant.

Responding calmly, reasonably and firmly to a raised, resentful voice would be quite different of course.

How was the shop owner responding to what reporteldy is a common occurrence?

Btw, only one person has ever called me liberal (to my face of course) in a way that was clearly meant as less than complimentary, but it was in civil company. I mumbled something on whatever the subject was but by then recovered enough to smile and admit being pleased that the "liberal" showed.

Imo, it's a fine compliment, including from those who have no idea what liberalism is but are very sure I'm not one of them. Double compliment.

70sEraVet

(3,524 posts)
42. Yes, they are a dangerous faction of our society
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:36 PM
Dec 2021

The next one you stand up to that runs out of the store, may be running to get his gun out of his car. There have been too many of these instances.
My youngest son is a manager in a mall clothing store, and he spends the majority of his working hours telling customers to mask up or leave the store. I worry about him every day.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. Actually, I think anyone hanging on social media hears about a large
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:06 PM
Dec 2021

porton of the violent incidents across the entire nation.

It can make it hard to keep perspective, but the chance that your son will be attacked by a customer is extremely small, and seriously injured microscopic. I've always worried more about our kids on the roads, but I wouldn't say so because I know it'd just irritate them and make them discuss how long until they have to take over my care.

AllaN01Bear

(18,534 posts)
45. i was called a communist pinko pig by my high school rop instructor
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:02 PM
Dec 2021

i wear that badge of honor proudly. and snowflake and others too also.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Lol, meaning depending not just on the intent but the source.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:54 PM
Dec 2021

As an adolescent in the '60s I felt so pityingly superior to unfortunates like that that the worse someone was the more impossible to offend me. It'd actually be very useful to recapture some of my delusional teen self. I'm so comparatively easily offended now that I'd have been embarrassed for my future self.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. How disturbing. :) I've read that most people can fairly reliably guess
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 08:39 PM
Dec 2021

whether people are conservative or liberal just by grooming style. Conservatives overall put more effort into looking good, and conservative women's styles tend to be more feminine than liberals. Maybe that's your "problem."

(Remembering Hillary hair, and my own straight graying bob, about now.)

jaxexpat

(6,862 posts)
59. Around here, I'm not sure that if you called the cops they wouldn't show up to take the side.......
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 07:13 AM
Dec 2021

of the belligerent maskhole instead of the 911 caller.

CrispyQ

(36,540 posts)
10. My county has mask mandates in public places,
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:56 PM
Dec 2021

but the stores don't enforce it like they did last year. Still, I noticed the customers without masks don't look those of us with masks in the eye. They know they're assholes.

AllaN01Bear

(18,534 posts)
46. our local police chief and county mountie wont enforce . i live in
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:03 PM
Dec 2021

a higly red district and county . both the chief and head sherrif are rs .

Botany

(70,614 posts)
20. Add in 2.5 generations of hate talk talk radio, Fox and the like on TV, social right wing media, ..
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:23 PM
Dec 2021

... Christian Taliban-Evangelicals and you have created millions of idiots who don't know
their ass from their elbow*. And I have no doubt that Putin has been feeding and funding
those entities for years. I remember seeing Hannity all nervous when it came up about
some kind of Russia/Fox News connection.


* "Joe Biden is a socialist." R you kidding me? How many credit card banks are in the State of
Delaware? And I am sure Biden helped get them there too.


ShazzieB

(16,564 posts)
39. Most won't know what you're talking about.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:17 PM
Dec 2021

It won't hurt for them to hear it. Just don't expect any kind of, what do you call it? Oh yes, comprehension.

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
13. Unfortunately
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:03 PM
Dec 2021

there is a small percentage of these fools who won't flee when confronted and some of them can be dangerous.

The behavior of these people is alarming. Would they have a meltdown if a store told them they had to wear a shirt or shoes? Do they consider that illegal? The past few years have made me realize how fragile and insubstantial civility is in a society. It takes so little for a lot of people to fall apart when the order and structure of their world starts to weaken. If our institutions do not hold, we will be living in a dystopian world in a short period of time.

That said, I love how you handled it!

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
22. How would they have survived in the seventies and eighties?
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:24 PM
Dec 2021

Nixon mandated speed limit on interstates from 70 to 55 to save gas. Reagan mandated drinking age from 18 to 21. If states didn’t comply, they got their road funds cut. Mandates are not a new thing. Of course, here in WV, they took power from the health departments. The local county governments have health decision making power. I am really starting to hate WV when I used to love it.

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
29. Yes, it is like some of these people were born yesterday
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:50 PM
Dec 2021

We live in a world with rules and regulations and people adjust. Some of these idiots would be the first to complain or call the cops if someone else broke a rule though. They tend to cherry-pick what laws and regulations they are willing to obey, like it is optional - "Stop at the red light if it isn't too inconvenient" or "No smoking in the hospital if you don't mind".

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
56. Actually, yes on the meltdown for shoes.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:12 PM
Dec 2021

I cooked/managed/bar tended/bounced for a year or so at my local neighborhood dive bar in 2017/18.

I had two or three occasions where a drunk woman - known trumpers all 3 - took off their heels/shoes and walked around in bare or stocking feet...had to tell them to put them back on or they had to leave - owner was strict about that policy due to Health Dept regulations and fines.

In all cases to a lesser or greater extent they threw loud whiny tantrums. 2018 versions of RW Karen.

One would take them off as soon as I left the game room, not knowing I could watch her do it live on the bar security cameras...I had fun toying with her, always seeming to appear almost as soon as she took them off again. The last time I got tired of playing the game and finally threw her and her party out - they were simply way too loud, obnoxious, and trashed and bothering other customers.

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
61. Oh yes, I can picture that
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:09 AM
Dec 2021

and I must admit that in my much younger days, I sometimes took off my shoes to dance, BUT I always kept my shirt on!

Of course, if anyone told me to put my shoes back on, I would have done so without a hassle.

Looking back, having worked in restaurants, stores, and bars, there were always a few who resisted the rules, but nothing like we see today with mask requirements. The bizarre resistance seems to be infectious.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
21. This is the problem..
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:24 PM
Dec 2021

He really means this.

… He glared at me screamed "damn liberal we should shoot every one of you".

Most of them are the the type who would not cross this line by themselves but there are some who would and most would follow the one who did. This is what the Hannity’s, Ingraham’s, Carlson’s and GOP like Jordan, Brooks, Gosar have done. They have fomented hate so pervasively that Americans are to this point. It is disgusting and it should be a crime. These people definitely need to be called out and the businesses that still fund them boycott.

The thing about this that really is disconcerting is that this is not over a policy issue like relations with Cuba or a new Healthcare initiative. It’s literally about life & death and these people are still supporting the insanity.




yardwork

(61,715 posts)
30. It's starting to remind me of Mad Max. Whole communities have gone insane.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:59 PM
Dec 2021

My racist relatives talk about "no go" zones in California where it's supposedly dangerous to set foot in certain neighborhoods. THEIR communities are becoming the "no go" zones. THEY are the crazy dangerous people who might do anything.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
32. I live near a large department store with great prices & groceries, not a walmart, have a shopper
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:11 PM
Dec 2021

shop for me, bring it to the car, a free service over $35, may never put up with maskless shoppers again.

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Lunabell

(6,127 posts)
37. I'm so glad you're safe!
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:57 PM
Dec 2021

These people are despicable violent gun nuts. It's getting scarier and scarier. But I won't back down!!

DENVERPOPS

(8,862 posts)
38. I would have loved
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:58 PM
Dec 2021

to see the insurrectionist's behavior if they had met an adequate force defending the Capitol, which is what should have happened.
They are chicken shits at heart. Brazen when they are armed, and in a 100-1 ratio.

I am with those that say, if all of the Capitol protection people had been armed, followed normal protocol, and dropped them in their tracks if they came through the windows and doors that they broke down, the rest of the "brave" seditionists would have tucked tail and run.............

cayugafalls

(5,646 posts)
43. Stay safe. Seems like they are a bit cray where you are at.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:38 PM
Dec 2021

I live in a very red area in Texas. Still wear a mask. Not once have I got called out, glared at or even asked about it.

Maybe it's my demeanor or my glaring blue eyes. Who knows.

I did have one conversation while waiting to get my booster shot. Nice fellow asked if I was getting the flu shot. I told him nope, just the covid booster. He nodded his head and asked me why I was getting the booster, he was unmasked, but he was there for the flu shot. I told him because my doctor had asked me to get it.

He merely nodded and told me to take care of myself and have a good day.

I was kind of pleasantly surprised at how civil the conversation was in total.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. :) Good handling, pleasant interchange, just like normal
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:52 PM
Dec 2021

except with an element of reaching out that once wouldn't have been there. And a simple "my doctor asked me to get it."

Hotler

(11,452 posts)
52. Wasn't it the repugs that came up with, "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." so they could
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 09:10 PM
Dec 2021

discriminate against the dirty hippies (liberals) back in the 70's? Just add one more word to the sign.
No Shirt
No shoes
No Mask
No Service.

Anyway, you can't reason with them, it's wasted energy.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
54. Correct me if I am wrong but ...
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 09:23 PM
Dec 2021

it just seems to me that is has come down to the rawest common denominator.

I would say it is between the stupid and the smart but it is something deeper and more important - I think we call it simple empathy.

mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
62. Why do people have to lose it when asked to wear a mask?
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:08 PM
Dec 2021

I mean, why don't they just answer "I'd prefer not to" in a calm voice. Why all the anger and fits?

Kid Berwyn

(14,992 posts)
63. "Damn liberal. We should shoot every one of you."
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:16 PM
Dec 2021

Seems to be a common refrain among the traitors.

FTR: You are my hero, redstatebluegirl.

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