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RandySF

(59,414 posts)
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:09 AM Dec 2021

Faster hospitalization with Omicron


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Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
Warning signFASTER HOSPITALIZATION WITH #Omicron—Latest data on hospital admissions in London (Flag of United KingdomOmicron epicenter) shows Omicron wave is sending patients to hospitals sooner in 6 days than versus Delta (9-10 days). And the model suggests similar severity, not “milder”.Thread

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Faster hospitalization with Omicron (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2021 OP
Probably not final word, but sure was hoping for milder severity. Hoyt Dec 2021 #1
Not likely so long as the virus can keep finding pockets of unvaxxed/uninfected NullTuples Dec 2021 #13
New and Improved! Faster Acting... Pachamama Dec 2021 #2
I understand that in South Africa hospitalizations PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #3
Because it lags DenaliDemocrat Dec 2021 #4
Does speed of hospitalization equal volume of hospitalization? greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #5
Data shows the number of actual admissions. LisaL Dec 2021 #10
Are we talking vaxxed or unvaxxed groups? Mad_Machine76 Dec 2021 #6
this Lisa0825 Dec 2021 #7
We are talking about group that ends up in a hospital. LisaL Dec 2021 #8
The study doesn't delineate whether its both, I don't read that uponit7771 Dec 2021 #17
I agree, I'd like data separating the two groups. uponit7771 Dec 2021 #18
It makes sense. LisaL Dec 2021 #9
Much higher rate of breakthrough infection happens with Omicron. Severity for those vaccinated Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #11
Shit- My son and his wife are moving to London on January 1st with my 4 year old grand daughter. NBachers Dec 2021 #12
K&R! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #14
Kind of early yet Tomconroy Dec 2021 #15
This was also the case in SA. scipan Dec 2021 #20
If true Meowmee Dec 2021 #16
What I am reading scipan Dec 2021 #19
I've read that vaccination rates in London are low. Let's Tomconroy Dec 2021 #21
I didn't know that. UK does have a lot of Astra Zeneca vaxxed scipan Dec 2021 #22
This could be a factor & should be mentioned, tx appalachiablue Dec 2021 #23
Clout chaser catnip. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #24

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
13. Not likely so long as the virus can keep finding pockets of unvaxxed/uninfected
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:12 AM
Dec 2021

Every time it finds a new area that hasn't been infected before and hasn't been vaccinated, it replicates frequently. And the more it replicates, the better chance of mutations that favor the virus.
This is why it is so important for wealthier nations to supply vaccinations to the world - or better still, simply force open licensing.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,914 posts)
3. I understand that in South Africa hospitalizations
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:40 AM
Dec 2021

dropped precipitously with Omicron, compared to Delta.

Why are there such contradictory reports?

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
10. Data shows the number of actual admissions.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:12 AM
Dec 2021

So there are more people ending up in a hospital in London. They are ending up there faster than with delta.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
8. We are talking about group that ends up in a hospital.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:05 AM
Dec 2021

Which will be mixture of un-vaxxed and vaxxed.

Ford_Prefect

(7,925 posts)
11. Much higher rate of breakthrough infection happens with Omicron. Severity for those vaccinated
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:28 AM
Dec 2021

is not clear.

There are different rates of infection and intensity found in England than South Africa. The data is different between them for lots of reasons including data gathering, population diversity and vaccine variant.

England may hold more relevance for US impact due to vaccines used and population makeup.

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
12. Shit- My son and his wife are moving to London on January 1st with my 4 year old grand daughter.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:58 AM
Dec 2021

His wife's job is moving them there. They've both been boostered. Living here in San Francisco, they've had the advantage of a precautions-aware population. I hope they find the same in London. They'll need to be very careful until my grand daughter is old enough to get vaccinated.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
16. If true
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:13 AM
Dec 2021

It does not look good. I hope they will be closing schools again and switching to remote and not sticking head in sand etc.

scipan

(2,361 posts)
19. What I am reading
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 05:32 PM
Dec 2021

It will be less severe, either because of immunity or intrinsic severity. However, health care workers are the weakest link and hospitals still could be overwhelmed.


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scipan

(2,361 posts)
22. I didn't know that. UK does have a lot of Astra Zeneca vaxxed
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 06:57 PM
Dec 2021

which doesn’t work as well as the mRNA vaccines.

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