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The biggest danger we face is if the actions of Manchin and Sinema cause Democrats not to vote in (Original Post) JohnSJ Dec 2021 OP
Lack of action by the DOJ will contribute as much or more, to the demoralization of our base. CrispyQ Dec 2021 #1
A vigorous and multifaceted counterattack against the coup attempt would certainly help Democrats. David__77 Dec 2021 #2
And, as usual, it's all going to depend on GOTV efforts. MineralMan Dec 2021 #3
People are not automatons. LowerManhattanite Dec 2021 #4
It may not be people wanting to stay home. TDale313 Dec 2021 #5
And not passing BBB will guarantee that... regnaD kciN Dec 2021 #6
If BBB dies, temporary311 Dec 2021 #7

CrispyQ

(36,542 posts)
1. Lack of action by the DOJ will contribute as much or more, to the demoralization of our base.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:40 PM
Dec 2021

I hope we see a change in demeanor after the New Year or the midterms are gonna be grim.

David__77

(23,559 posts)
2. A vigorous and multifaceted counterattack against the coup attempt would certainly help Democrats.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:41 PM
Dec 2021

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
3. And, as usual, it's all going to depend on GOTV efforts.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:44 PM
Dec 2021

It always does. Make up your mind to help, and try to convince others to do the same. That is the only way we will win.

LowerManhattanite

(2,391 posts)
4. People are not automatons.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 02:49 PM
Dec 2021

They feel things.

And these two supposed fellow party members know exactly what effect this sort of disingenuous playing to the GOP base does.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. It may not be people wanting to stay home.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:02 PM
Dec 2021

Voter suppression efforts and even rules that allow state leaders to substitute their own electors even if Voters don’t go their way are flooding state houses. Along with extreme gerrymandering. Without voter protection legislation, Repugs are determined that 2020 will be the last national election they lose. All the gotv efforts we can muster may not be enough to overcome that. Voter protection laws need to be priority number one. No holds barred, whatever it takes. We won’t be able to fix anything else if we can’t make sure people can vote. Full stop.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
6. And not passing BBB will guarantee that...
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:42 PM
Dec 2021

Look, I don’t like it any more than you, but trying to drum up support for November under these circumstances is an exercise in futility. Sure, lots of voters will buy into understandable scare tactics of what might happen if Republicans take power again – but a significant enough percentage, particularly if those who hoped Biden would not just be the non-Trump, but actually enact positive change, will argue “fool me once…” and stay home. Almost certainly enough to make the difference.

temporary311

(955 posts)
7. If BBB dies,
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:47 PM
Dec 2021

then Biden should absolutely forgive student loan debt. Even if it ends up being challenged and possibly killed in the courts, then make the (Republicans stacked) courts be the bad guys, not the Democrats.

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