'My Democratic colleagues in Washington are determined to dramatically reshape our society in a way

[Celerity]

that leaves our country even more vulnerable to the threats we face' - Joe Manchin yesterday.

THAT is the part I most detest out of all the bollocks Manchin spewed yesterday. It is a deep cutting attack on the very core of our party. It hands the Rethugs a huge warhammer to pound us over the head with for the next 3 years. It is a dire betrayal by Manchin, especially as he did it on FOX NEWS.

No wonder Biden is enraged, especially after Manchin just days before went to the White House in person, shook Biden's hand, and gave Biden a written framework that was very close, minus a few key things, to Biden's own, and was a clear pathway to a final bill.

[Walleye]

1. 81 million Americans also want to reshape our society, senator

Apparently the voters of America don’t count when it comes to Joe Manchin

[jaxexpat]

2. Voters!? They don' need no stinkin' voters.

Nor do they care, obviously.

[Walleye]

3. My sister-in-law's family is from West Virginia. She said the Manchins have always been crooks

[jaxexpat]

4. That sounds about right. Primitive societies are loathe to change. Don't even see the need.

Don't even entertain the possibility that life could be any other way. They're still "Lincoln" republicans. Remind me of my maternal family branch. Still believed Democrats were all "Dixie-crats" even decades after LBJ. And, of course, Roosevelt was Satan incarnate despite the fact that they'd have all starved to death without the New Deal.

[Maggiemayhem]

35. Joe used to be a carpet salesman

I guess politics is more lucrative

[Walleye]

36. Yeah and politics, the way he does it, is a lot easier than working at a job the wa.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

11. He doesn't see the fascism careening down the tracks? That's at the core of the blindness.

[Bettie]

15. He figures he'll be one of those who benefit

from fascism. So, it doesn't matter to him.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

16. Maybe. America was already semi fascist by design long ago.

Which is why taking the extra push to the edge is not a far distance.

[jaxexpat]

40. Partially agree.

The exceptions to democratic government written into the constitution reek of corporate overreach. Those errors have haunted us ever since. The fabric of our society requires that we ignore the elephant in the room every four years.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

42. Yes. The threads were woven in.

[DBoon]

52. If you ask the Claremont Institute, those voters aren't "real Americans"

anyone who did not vote for Trump is a traitor, according to them.

This is what is driving the republican party now.

[Walleye]

55. Yeah. I guess they mean real white Americans

[MiHale]

5. It's obvious that your system is broken when...

One person can destroy an administration’s agenda. McConnell then, Manchin now. It’s worse when the offending person is from his own party you expect it from the opposition.

[Evolve Dammit]

10. seriously broken. Maserati Joe must be raking in the $. This would have helped a LOT.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

13. Seriously. One man holds up all Ambassadorships?

One man holds up bills passed infinity to 1.

One man holds up state federal judgeships?

One man torch’s Supreme Court judge nomination?

One man’s vote torched because no one figure out how to create an independent and fair districting system so one man’s vote counts equally with his fellow man?

Concentration of power in old white men is the system.

Concentration of power historically in old white men means only two old white parties permitted to exist.

White power is what is already baked into the system, it’s hidden under the veneer of…tradition?

[ancianita]

51. All of that. Well said! Corporations structure the rotation of blame on different "one man"

claims to tradition, and what eventually is called PR, slow rolls out through political tools' 'rules' of obstruction as "democratic process," and growing white male power as "tradition" -- because their rules equate with boring old rule of law.

Criminalizing of Black Americans is okay under the Thirteenth Amendment, Section 1:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Bottom line, what more is needed to keep white men on top but the loophole that has been used to criminalize (black codes, repeated protest assembly arrests, jaywalking, loitering, sleeping in a park, etc.) non-white Americans, even convict children as adults.

This law makes government a menace for all non-white non-male Americans, under fascist white supremacists.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

56. Rotation of blame...I like that. White men rotating their massive one man power show,

rotated between two parties depending on the vote count every 2 years. What a ducking scam.

What other nation had to amend their constitution to abolish slavery of a fellow person?

And when the slavery was abolished they forgot to put in a part about reparation for the slavery just now then abolished after generations of unimaginable evil nationwide.

White privilege is a thick blanket, but I have hope can pull back the wool over too many peoples eyes.

[ancianita]

57. Only

reparations and atonement will save us tools from the evils of corporate enslavement and trafficking of humans over centuries of corporate for-profit building projects.

It's why Biden is getting such heavy corporate media blowback and resistance; they don't want to face human justice. But corporate charter dissolution will change every CEO's and boardroom's behavior to finally stop sacrificing humans for their Mammon.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

58. Canada is not just talking about it I see. Actual sincere apologies on a national scale

for Canadas slavery, the subjugation of aboriginals…and actual money for reparations and repair of broken systems is in the budget.

[ancianita]

60. Yes, they are.

There's a major reparations calculator that I read about in The 1619 Project, too.

Regardless, Canada's leaders should get back to us. We're so morally lazy that we'd rather just kick that can down the road and hand over our taxes to already-rich people. Perpetuate the system corporations built rather than restore wealth to those whose labor we've benefitted from. It's horrible.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

62. Yes, well said. Restore a fraction of the wealth to thosewho helped create it and were not rewarded.

It’s a concept that is not that hard, don’t understand all the confusion.

[ancianita]

63. The confusion is a defense. Confusion is 98% fake and intended to spread to you, too.

They put themselves first and play it off as confusion.

They like living in the corporate slavemaster's house and use their tools to maintain it. (A lot of us have been working on how their house is mapped, right?)

[Alexander Of Assyria]

64. Sow national discord and dissent....opening paragraph of Mueller report. Yes, add confusion.

[BeyondGeography]

6. He sees a future where ill-gotten yachts and Maseratis will be under siege

And public “service” irretrievably altered.

[gab13by13]

8. The thing is

I'm not sure that Manchin is even running again, he's just getting what he can from his owners before he retires.

[gab13by13]

7. Yeah but when president Biden shook Manchin's hand

he didn't have a wad of cash in it like Manchin's American oligarchs have when they shake Manchin's hand.

[tavernier]

37. That's EXACTLY what Joe should say!

Of course at that moment JM will switch parties, but that’s pretty much in the works anyway I’m thinking

[Vinca]

9. It occurred to me that Manchin essentially called Biden a liar on Faux News.

He was asked about a statement put out previously by the President which said Manchin needed to think some more about it, blah, blah, blah. Manchin responded by saying "That's his statement, not mine."

[Farmer-Rick]

12. Manchin is paid good money to stop Democrats

He is intentionally placed among Dems to do just what he is doing. Just like Lieberman, there's always a turncoat the filthy rich can pay who will make sure anything progressive is stopped or slowed.

Welcome to dysfunctional democracy capitalism style.

[Hulk]

14. 2022 needs to give the Democrats AT LEAST one more seat

Two or more preferably, so we can be finished with such trash as this corrupt stooge and the likes of sinema. Having a 50 - 50 split leaves us with the weakest of hands.

I think we can do it in the Senate. I just hope and pray we can maintain a majority in the House as well. That seems to be the bigger question.

manchin's days as an important political figure are coming to an end. Such a trashy, turn-coat liar and fossil fuel pawn.

[gab13by13]

19. Won't do a darn bit of good if we lose the House.

Well it will help get judges appointed and other officials.

[Lovie777]

17. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . ..

Manchin rather the USA become a dictatorship?

[Sherman A1]

18. Yes, I believe that was part of the plan

Something about making things a bit more fair to the working folks.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

20. That's a dog whistle call to the very worst element of US Society

if I ever heard one.

[Botany]

21. Let me edit Manchin's idiotic spewings. Joe and the democratics are trying to do what they ran on.

My Democratic colleagues in Washington are determined to dramatically HELP our society in a way
that leaves our country LESS vulnerable to the threats we face.

How much was he paid by the fossil fuel businesses to try to stop progress and change?

Here is W.V. thanx to climate change and flooding in the summer of 2018. (warm air holds more water)

[Celerity]

25. +10000000000000000

[Botany]

28. Joe Manchin is like a "southern sympathizer" telling people how well the slaves were treated.

this is from Sept. 2021


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216005972

The current fossil fuel energy systems is worth trillions and they will not give up on that money
and Joe is really getting "his beak wet" on that money.

[BComplex]

44. A primary opponent could point this out to W. Virginians, and they'd GET IT!

A republican would not do anything different from what Manchin is doing, and my guess is a good primary opponent could sell the hell out of what democrats are proposing with the BBB.

[Jon King]

22. Manchin blamed TX grid failure on renewable energy.....

A blatant lie straight out of the MAGA playbook.

[CaptainTruth]

26. Renewables were the only thing that kept working!

The sun kept shining & the wind kept blowing, they didn't care if it was cold. It was the fossil fuel industry that stopped working.

[Celerity]

33. conservatives like Manchin (& of course Rethugs) so often frame things as the exact reverse of truth

[johnthewoodworker]

23. We're a fascist nation and things will get pretty bad. Merry Christmas?

[Bucky]

24. Nitwit. Democrats are literally trying to keep society from being reshaped

Healthcare. Childcare. Infrastructure. Fighting climate change.

Everything the Democrats are doing is about preserving our way of life

[CaptainTruth]

27. When is he going to change parties?

I feel like the D after his name has become a farce.

[FBaggins]

39. It could be coming

Party leadership certainly seems to be closer to the bridge-burning stage than conciliation.

Schumer appears to be calling a caucus "let's moan about Manchin" meeting for tomorrow night. Given Manchin's decision to announce on Fox while ignoring calls from the White House... perhaps he won't show up.

[Midnight Writer]

29. He is not in office to serve his people. He is in office to rule them.

Don't give them too much, or they will get lazy. Don't show kindness, or they will disrespect you. Don't educate them, or they will get ideas of their own.

[dalton99a]

31. Sen. Mendacity is so full of SHIT.

[fwvinson]

32. I guarantee you, if Republicans take away our Social Security

IT WILL BE WAR!!!

[The Magistrate]

34. What On Earth Is The Shit-Heel Talking About, Ma'am?

Seriously. I'm early in the coffee process, I'll grant you, but usually I can at least see what wretches like this are getting at, and on this, I draw an utter blank....

[LW1977]

38. Joe Manson wants to eat caviar..,

Not little people food.

[BComplex]

43. There HAS TO BE a Bernie Sanders type person who appeals to the populist vote

in republican districts that could primary Manchin. There has to be that person, because if they speak the truth like Bernie does to the West Virginians, he'd get elected, and we could get rid of Manchin. W. Virginia is red, but they have enough independence of spirit to pull the lever for someone with a "D" after their name, so I think we should give it a try.

[JudyM]

46. Interesting tactic.

Sanders did win the Dem primary there, though we need far more voters than vote in the primary.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

45. What the public ? you are supposed to serve the public

I think the public is much more liberal then you care to know.

Money talks and blocks to the true agenda of the united states

[scipan]

47. Do DUers still think he is a net positive for the party?

Since he “is “ a dem, voters will blame the Democratic Party for all the frustration and lack of getting stuff done.

But, we did pass some great legislation that maybe? we wouldn’t have without him.

At this point, I’m not sure having Moscow Mitch as majority leader is a bad thing since voters could take out their frustrations on him instead of the dems in ‘22.

[ShazzieB]

54. Not having McConnell in control of the Senate is definitely a positive.

I can't stand Manchin, but I think the real solution is turning more Senate seats blue. If the Democratic "majority" weren't so razor thin, he and Sinema would not have the power to fuck things up that they have now.

[Elessar Zappa]

59. It's all about judges.

Biden is getting his judges approved and that’s huge.

[scipan]

65. I forgot about the judges. You are absolutely right.

[dlk]

48. Exactly how would our country be more vulnerable?

Sounds like spin and doublespeak.

[marieo1]

49. Detestable man

Manchin is a two faced rat, big time.

[housecat]

50. Imagine if we weren't in the majority

[madamesilverspurs]

53. Which begs the question:

With friends like Manchin, who needs republicans?



.

[Volaris]

61. What threats and how, Joe?

That's a hell of a broadside to level against your own president. If it doesnt come with details, its self-aggrandizing bullshit.

I'll wait.