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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould Manchin's planned betrayal be cover for an excuse to avoid changing the filibuster?
It just seems there’s more to this story.

Irish_Dem
(67,350 posts)He is a saboteur. Doing deliberate damage.
And he tag-teams with that weirdo from Arizona.
Irish_Dem
(67,350 posts)She has the good sense to shut up as she commits her crimes.
2naSalit
(96,308 posts)I think Biden had a withering affect on her antics for attention. She needs to be voted out next election she's up for it.
Irish_Dem
(67,350 posts)Right she should be lining up a new job.
This one is going to go bye bye.
Celerity
(49,060 posts)hardcore (perhaps even more than Manchin) refusal to budge at ALL on the filibuster. She actually wants a 60 vote threshold for all Senate business, ffs.
Irish_Dem
(67,350 posts)And stops flouncing around in ridiculous costumes.
FBaggins
(28,064 posts)Unlike a handful of others, he’s seen no reason to hide his position there
dlk
(12,613 posts)He doesn’t come across as a straightforward person.
FBaggins
(28,064 posts)Because he sure isn’t hiding wanting to leave it as it is. He has been incredibly straightforward about that.
dlk
(12,613 posts)He has said he supports it but isn’t interested in changing the filibuster. That’s contradictory.
FBaggins
(28,064 posts)People have supported legislation that doesn’t have enough support to pass for centuries. They don’t suddenly “not support” something just because they’re unwilling to change the rules in order to pass it.
How much does Manchin actually support voting rights, if he has the ability to do something to get voting rights passed, yet refuses? This is one important reason why plutocracy and democracy can’t coexist.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)It seems strange he'd be trying to cover for a position he's already publicly taken.
dlk
(12,613 posts)It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Manchin recently agreed to a filibuster change for the budget. Apparently, he’ll negotiate in bad faith over voting rights, too.
Demsrule86
(71,121 posts)When someone has no conscience, they can do anything.