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JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:46 AM Jan 2022

It seems pretty clear that the majority of republicans believe the BIG LIE, and at every

opportunity exploit it, along with their admiration for trump as a “leader”, a known con man and pathological liar

What I cannot understand is why don’t the Democrats push back aggressively on this, that the Republican Party is the party of trump, a known con man and liar all his worthless life, without any moral compass.

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kentuck

(111,085 posts)
1. Of course they believe the Big Lie.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jan 2022

How else could they rationalize their criminality?

The Big Lie gives them license to believe whatever conspiracy theory they need to maintain their innocence.

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
2. I don't think they believe it.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jan 2022

I think it's just a convenient excuse to use in public. But they probably do think their followers believe it.

Skittles

(153,153 posts)
12. agreed
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 04:36 AM
Jan 2022

it's the same reason they watch Fox News - it's not the truth, but it is what they want to hear.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
3. Why don't Democrats push back more aggressively?
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:03 PM
Jan 2022

I don't know. How do you tell crazy people that they're crazy? Do people outside of Republican circles actually believe it? It should be up to the Republicans to have to prove their insane conspiracy theories (which they can't of course).

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
6. Forget the republicans, it is as you say the people outside of republican circles, and if we don't
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:20 PM
Jan 2022

call them out for what they are, then the lying and falsehoods just hang out there


HariSeldon

(455 posts)
4. My thoughts run in the same direction
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jan 2022

I was just thinking of posting "Why can't we Democrats make all Republican politicians either own Trump's nastiness/failures/betrayal-of-democracy or concretely disown him by their votes?" I want the political buzz to be "This bill will make corruption a thing of the past, will make inciting an insurrection a thing of the past, will make attacking Congress a thing of the past. And if Republicans vote against it, they are supporting these evils and admitting their party's ideas are so unpopular they can only win by trickery and not the will of the people...the consent of the governed!" I don't think there's a bill yet to do this, but maybe the Jan. 6th committee will bring something. Timing-wise, it probably would have worked better close to the insurrection, but then Republicans might have played the "let's slow down and think this through" card.

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
7. Exactly. If we don't call THEM OUT for what they are, then if we lose the midterms, we will be left
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jan 2022

saying, "I just can't understand how people could vote for a party that stands for nothing"

Baltimike

(4,143 posts)
5. They believe Obama was born in Kenya, and so if TFG stole or steals, it's ok
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jan 2022

because Kenya.

To. this. very. day

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
8. Yes, that is about 52% of the republicans, who also believe the big lie. Which I think is why we
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jan 2022

need to call them out as the liars THEY are, and hopefully, the independents will realize what is happening


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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
9. Why?
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jan 2022

Because we don't have decades worth of messaging infrastructure to blast our message out there.
Whether that's our fault or not is debatable.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
10. A Majority of Republicans Is a Smallish Minority of Americans.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jan 2022

We must keep that in mind at all times. GOTV!

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