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We really need to start asking Republicans do they really believe in democracy and free elections? (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jan 2022 OP
They will just lie and blame us for their crimes. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #1
Their constant refrain is we're not a democracy we are a republic.Ask them to explain the difference Walleye Jan 2022 #2
My answer to "this is a Republic" is... TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #5
Technically we are a republic but our representatives are elected democratically Walleye Jan 2022 #8
A must excellent point. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2022 #13
Ask? or State JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #3
They will tell you to your face that we have a democracy and free elections. marie999 Jan 2022 #4
They ARE the steal they profess to want to stop. dchill Jan 2022 #6
YES! jmbar2 Jan 2022 #7
Excellent answer to these people Walleye Jan 2022 #9
Waste of time. We know what they think, and we know they will lie. NewHendoLib Jan 2022 #10
A waste of breath. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #11
Well... Mike Nelson Jan 2022 #12
And ALSO... Volaris Jan 2022 #14

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
2. Their constant refrain is we're not a democracy we are a republic.Ask them to explain the difference
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

They obviously don’t believe in democracy, They don’t even know what the purpose of an election is,which is why they always corrupt the name of our party.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
5. My answer to "this is a Republic" is...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jan 2022

The Soviet Union, Iran, China, and Cuba are all Republics as well.

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
8. Technically we are a republic but our representatives are elected democratically
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jan 2022

Ask them who won their election for US Senator. The one that got the most votes. That’s democracy. They’re talking points are getting old and lame

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
3. Ask? or State
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jan 2022

And the Media should be doing their job and 'asking'. Democratic Politicians from the dog catcher to the President need to 'state it to their faces'.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
4. They will tell you to your face that we have a democracy and free elections.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jan 2022

To them, democracy and free elections do not mean the same to them as it does to us. They believe that White men are superior to everyone else. They believe that a fascist state, though they don't call it fascism, is best.

dchill

(38,484 posts)
6. They ARE the steal they profess to want to stop.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jan 2022

There is not an alarm clock that will wake that shit up.

jmbar2

(4,875 posts)
7. YES!
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jan 2022

On a more local level, we need to hold conversations with the militia, school board interrupter types about their visions for the future if they succeed.

Questions I would like to ask:

- If you succeed in nullifying the election and bringing Trump back, how would subsequent elections operate? Would you allow real opposition, and for opposition to win, or would that be nullified too? (One of the weaknesses of autocratic regimes is that they rarely think through succession, so they get progressively worse over time).

- What would happen if you elected one of your own, and they turned out to be so bad that you wanted to get them out of office? How would you do that? By another election?

- If we dismantle democracy, what form of government do you propose to replace it with?

- Of current developed nations in the world, which one(s) most closely resemble your ideal form of government?


Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
12. Well...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jan 2022

... many of them will answer, "YES!" However, when followed-up, they will say the last election was "stolen" from Trump. They believe it was "rigged" and not democratic. They call it Socialism and/or Communism. They also believe Trump got more votes than Biden, and Hillary did not win the vote in the previous contest.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
14. And ALSO...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jan 2022

If you actually believe that the last election was stolen, then what suggestions might you have to ensure that every person who can vote, GETS TO?

Crickets and 'no brown people', are NOT acceptable answers...anything else, I'm willing to have a conversation about.

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