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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 12:49 PM Jan 2022

Rand Paul just claimed that nearly all hospitalized Covid patients are vaccinated.



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Rand Paul just claimed that nearly all hospitalized Covid patients are vaccinated. He’s lying, and I’ve got the receipts.


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Rand Paul just claimed that nearly all hospitalized Covid patients are vaccinated. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2022 OP
It's time he was relieved of duty. dchill Jan 2022 #1
Rand Paul is a fucking idiot and toddler Aviation Pro Jan 2022 #2
And evil. Don't forget evil. Nevilledog Jan 2022 #4
I sure wish his neighbor MontanaMama Jan 2022 #3
Too bad we can suspend them from Twitter but not Congress for spreading lies about the virus Walleye Jan 2022 #5
Why is it we allow elected officials BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #6
You mean Mad_Machine76 Jan 2022 #14
Traitor, mass murderer. dalton99a Jan 2022 #7
Perfect example of misinformation YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #8
Eventually it will be true, and they'll use it as misinformation TlalocW Jan 2022 #19
Perfect YP_Yooper Jan 2022 #20
Use it all you want TlalocW Jan 2022 #22
This is just a straight up bald faced lie. Initech Jan 2022 #9
Maybe Paul was technically correct, using weasel words Cicada Jan 2022 #10
Paul has all the symptoms of being a John Bircher acolyte like the Kochs. Like roaches, allegorical oracle Jan 2022 #11
What symptoms. He's just like his father blogslug Jan 2022 #21
Ivermectin is not considered a vaccine Rand! Emile Jan 2022 #12
Paul says this with a smile peggysue2 Jan 2022 #13
It also opens the door for the nitwits to say that nothing "works" gratuitous Jan 2022 #16
Yes. X1000! peggysue2 Jan 2022 #17
Where's the neighbor?!? n/t Upthevibe Jan 2022 #15
You read my mind peggysue2 Jan 2022 #18
peggysue2....I don't think that neighbor realizes Upthevibe Jan 2022 #23
Just read a story about a couple of unvaccinated people who had been married for 44 years. Vinca Jan 2022 #24
Not to state the obvious, but Rand Paul is a liar. Solly Mack Jan 2022 #25

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
5. Too bad we can suspend them from Twitter but not Congress for spreading lies about the virus
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jan 2022

Fauci:”I want to see officially senator that you do not know what you are talking about.”

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
14. You mean
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jan 2022

why do SOME people allow elected officials to blatantly lie- and (re-)elect them?

Nobody here or in the reality-based community is buying anything he is saying, nor trying to allow them to get away with anything, but we don't have the media infrastructure or the power to do much about it.

 

YP_Yooper

(291 posts)
8. Perfect example of misinformation
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jan 2022

I wish I kept the link another DUer gave because it used real world examples.

A high proportion of vaccinated hospitalizations (obviously not "nearly all&quot is actually a good thing.

1) it reflects a larger vaccinated rate in the population, thus higher admission proportions
2) admissions are not ICU and death. Vaccinated hospitalizations have something like a 10% chance of ICU, and a fraction of that (like 3% of that 10%) risk of death. Unvaccinated are orders of magnitude larger at each stage.
3) higher numbers also reflect higher infections generally in the population, and that leads to the "super immunity" among the vaccinated Fauci spoke to

But details don't matter, right? R Paul frames it like the vacc isn't working to support the Trump cult that doesn't read beyond the headline

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
19. Eventually it will be true, and they'll use it as misinformation
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jan 2022

Claiming it's a bad thing. Eventually the number of vaccinated people will be a big enough chunk of the population that their smaller infection rate will still mean more of them in the hospital than the unvaxxed. Example would be if we just had a population of 100 people. If 95 of them are vaxxed, and the failure rate of vaccines is 6%, then 5 to 6 of the vaxxed are in the hospital. Infection rates for unvaxxed are at least 6 times higher, so that's 36% of 5 people or 1 to 2.

Israel actually experienced this a few times last year, and an anti-vaxxed idiot I know claimed that it was proof COVID had become a pandemic of the vaxxed.

TlalocW

 

YP_Yooper

(291 posts)
20. Perfect
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jan 2022

I need to use that example, if you don't mind

The post I had seen was pretty complicated because it was comprehensive.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
22. Use it all you want
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 03:22 PM
Jan 2022

Also, the vaxxed in the hospital will most likely be not suffering as badly as the unvaxxed.

TlalocW

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
10. Maybe Paul was technically correct, using weasel words
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jan 2022

Most people in hospitals, for all reasons, are vaccinated. Probably all of them are tested for covid. With omicron many test positive for covid, even tho they lack symptoms or have only minor symptoms. So it is possible that most people in hospitals who test positive for covid are vaccinated. Even tho 95% of those hospitalized FOR covid are unvaccinated.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
11. Paul has all the symptoms of being a John Bircher acolyte like the Kochs. Like roaches,
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jan 2022

they've been around since time's beginning.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
13. Paul says this with a smile
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jan 2022

Because everyone's been vaccinated. Which is also a lie. Had we all been vaxxed Covid would have been a memory, a bad memory but definitely in our rear-view mirror.

It's bc of liars like Rand Paul that we're experiencing a 4th surge. Such a giggle!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. It also opens the door for the nitwits to say that nothing "works"
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:55 PM
Jan 2022

People wear masks, and they still get infected! Masks don't work. People get vaccinated and still get infected! Vaccines don't work. And so on and so forth, ad nauseam.

I've pointed out in different venues examples such as crossing the street or going out in the rain. There's no 100% iron-clad guarantee that a person won't get hit by a car while crossing the street. But looking both ways before stepping off the curb is still a good idea to minimize the risk. If you wear a raincoat or carry an umbrella when you go out in the rain, you're still going to get wet; it's unavoidable. But you're not going to get as wet as you would without these simple precautions.

The nitwits are expending all their brainpower to come up with excuses not to protect themselves and others.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
17. Yes. X1000!
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jan 2022

That too. The influencers, enablers and supporters of all this are . . . evil, despicable. That includes the likes of Rand Paul and his fellow bandwagon Republicans.

Lives are expendable in the pursuit of power and the endless grift.

Someone needs to slap that smile off of Paul's face. Maybe we could enlist his neighbor. LOL.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
24. Just read a story about a couple of unvaccinated people who had been married for 44 years.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 09:40 AM
Jan 2022

They died in the hospital within 24 hours of each other. Rand Paul is a pathetic creature. He's trying so hard to get the camera to swing in his direction. Another day, another crock of BS.

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