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ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 12:28 AM Jan 2022

I'm not sure if I can convey, in words, what it feels like to take care of a dead man walking.

Just another day in the ICU. He was around 70 years old. A pretty active guy, one of those relatively stubborn and fiercely independent people who didn’t typically go to the doctor unless their arm had been ripped off. He had come to the hospital a couple of days ago with a cough, fever, and a little trouble breathing. Unsurprisingly, he had COVID-19. It turns out that his saturation percentage of arterial capillary oxygen (SpO2) was around 60% when he hit the doors of the emergency department.

Off onto a rabbit trail physiology lesson for a minute: in our blood, there is a protein called hemoglobin. Each single hemoglobin protein is capable of carrying 4 oxygen molecules at a time. If they are carrying 4, then they are “saturated” with oxygen. The hemoglobin molecules pick up oxygen molecules in the lungs, carry them to the body’s tissues, drop them off, and then return back to the lungs to grab more oxygen. The body tissues need this oxygen in order to stay alive. The oxygen saturation number, or SpO2, measures what percent of the hemoglobin molecules that are flowing past the sensor are saturated with 4 molecules of oxygen. Normal SpO2 is 94-99%. If the saturation is less than that, some of the tissues cannot get enough oxygen to stay alive, and are forced to start essentially eating themselves. One of the classic signs of significant COVID-19 illness is having a SpO2 level that is alarmingly low, with only moderate symptoms.

Back to the patient: let’s call him “Bob.” When I walked on the floor of ICU to get report that morning, Bob had been transferred there a few hours before because they couldn’t keep his SpO2 above 88% on the regular nursing floor in spite of increasing his oxygen supply dramatically.

The night shift nurse described how Bob was taking off his oxygen to scratch his nose, and taking off his SpO2 sensor because it was irritating his finger. She kept reminding him to put his high flow nasal cannula back into his nose, and had to replace the oxygen sensor several times. She finally had a frank and confrontational conversation with him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/rwo7ib/another_covid19_bedside_story/

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I'm not sure if I can convey, in words, what it feels like to take care of a dead man walking. (Original Post) ribrepin Jan 2022 OP
Too often patients are told they have to do something, without the accompanying explanation uppityperson Jan 2022 #1
The article quoted here is devasting and so very well written. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #2
Agree. Very sad as well. Another COVID death that did not need to occur. beaglelover Jan 2022 #27
Thank you peggy ribrepin Jan 2022 #30
+1. nt tblue37 Jan 2022 #31
Read the full story at the link. It's devastating. TomSlick Jan 2022 #3
I did. ShazzieB Jan 2022 #12
Agreed. TomSlick Jan 2022 #24
Professional. cachukis Jan 2022 #4
Bob.............. would we like him if we had met him? 3Hotdogs Jan 2022 #5
I'm mad at the resources he took Piasladic Jan 2022 #22
Meanwhile dalton99a Jan 2022 #6
Wtf is that shit? ShazzieB Jan 2022 #13
Anti-vaxxers dalton99a Jan 2022 #15
This amuses me. scarletlib Jan 2022 #23
Kick burrowowl Jan 2022 #7
Jesus. mahina Jan 2022 #8
Shit. PatrickforB Jan 2022 #9
I think Donne would forgive me for updating, but... TygrBright Jan 2022 #10
Sad, but Demobrat Jan 2022 #11
Retired veteran of trauma nursing. My heart aches for my fellow nurses PortTack Jan 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Demobrat Jan 2022 #14
The article is well written NJCher Jan 2022 #17
That was difficult to read 2BlackDogs Jan 2022 #18
I am so sorry, we hear so many stories like that here Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #20
powerful Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #19
I've been on this board since shortly after 9/11 ribrepin Jan 2022 #21
Kick ribrepin Jan 2022 #25
Quite The Reddit Post ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #26
It is a compelling read ribrepin Jan 2022 #29
Damn leighbythesea2 Jan 2022 #28

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Too often patients are told they have to do something, without the accompanying explanation
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 12:40 AM
Jan 2022

of why, and what will most likely happen if they don't. I've had to explain to people that they have the choice to do something or not. If they choose not to, let's call their kids home so they can be there when they die.

The response? "Oh. The doctor didn't tell me that."

I couldn't be working ICU now.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,614 posts)
2. The article quoted here is devasting and so very well written.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 12:41 AM
Jan 2022

It makes me feel as though I'm standing at the bedside while the RN explains what's happening to the patient.

And the patient is listening with all his senses.

Thank you so much for posting this, my dear ribrepin.

ShazzieB

(16,392 posts)
12. I did.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 03:03 AM
Jan 2022

So powerful. I feel like I've been gut punched.

That nurse is an amazing writer, and the story included details I've never seen anywhere else. I feel like I understand how covid kills people much better now.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
5. Bob.............. would we like him if we had met him?
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 01:12 AM
Jan 2022

Would he have liked me?
Last summer, was he carrying one of those flags with the rattlesnake on it.
or
Was he in the supermarket, yelling at my mother for why was she wearing that dumb mask.

And maybe he never bothered anybody.

Maybe he was just unlucky. Maybe he never bothered anybody.


Like me----
I got triple vax and I still got Rona last week.

I'm good. Didn't feel a thing.

Results came back negative this afternoon.


But Bub.............

Would I have liked him?




3H

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
22. I'm mad at the resources he took
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:04 AM
Jan 2022

He unecessarily took a toll on the physical and mental state of the people who cared for him. Who paid for these amazing devices and treatments? We did.

I've been living like a troglodyte and am vaxed and boosted. I have to pay for these idiots? I am pretty sure I would have disliked him before he got sick, but I am completely sure I dislike him now (even in death) because he went to the medical experts he igorned before, but they were the first people he ran to as he was realized he was in trouble.

Selfish ass.

scarletlib

(3,411 posts)
23. This amuses me.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 08:39 AM
Jan 2022

These citations of international laws and treaties. Most of these people are the ones who are against U.S. participation in any of these because our country shouldn’t be told what to do by others.

Yet at the first opportunity they will cite them to prove their point.

mahina

(17,652 posts)
8. Jesus.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 01:29 AM
Jan 2022

I read the article and needed a minute. May it break through the haze of ignorance nationwide.

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
10. I think Donne would forgive me for updating, but...
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 01:46 AM
Jan 2022

"As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No human is an island, entire of itself...any human's death diminishes me, because I am involved in humanity; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

No, I don't want them to die.

I don't want people like the person who wrote this, to have to be part of their suffering, either.

Nor their families.

Nor any of us, who want to live in a world where we all value one another.

sadly,
Bright

Demobrat

(8,976 posts)
11. Sad, but
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 03:02 AM
Jan 2022

“God, I wish I had gotten vaccinated,” he said, shaking his head.

I feel sorrier for the nurse than I do for him.

PortTack

(32,764 posts)
16. Retired veteran of trauma nursing. My heart aches for my fellow nurses
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 03:58 AM
Jan 2022

The selfless acts of kindness, great skill and compassion by these nurses have once again earned them their place in the annals of history.

Response to ribrepin (Original post)

NJCher

(35,667 posts)
17. The article is well written
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 04:15 AM
Jan 2022

Because it takes the reader through every step of how this disease takes over the lungs. The dead cells. How and how often the cells come to the lungs to grab oxygen. Why they need it and what happens when they don’t get it. For the first time, I think I have an understanding of how the virus wins.

It also tells how just a little bit of ignorance can set a patient back, such as the nose scratching.

2BlackDogs

(1 post)
18. That was difficult to read
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 04:46 AM
Jan 2022

Everyone in my family is vaccinated..... except for my sister and her husband.

My brother-in-law is a right-winger who is steadfastly anti-vaxx. And he has convinced my sister to not be vaxxed also.

Nothing the rest of us say to them has any impact. They ignore it.

My brother-in-law is obese and has a heart condition. If he gets COVID, he will be like "Bob" in this article.


I'd send my sister the article, but she'd just ignore it. And it is so frustrating.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
20. I am so sorry, we hear so many stories like that here
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 05:09 AM
Jan 2022

I consider myself lucky, my brother isn't anti-vaxx, I managed to get him vaccinated back in April and May. His issue is that he's agoraphobic, doesn't like to leave the house. When the vaccination site at the nearby local mall started accepting walk-ins last Spring, I convinced him to go, took him myself. But he was resistant to getting a booster, I tried to convince him, but he kept asking how many more he had to get. However, he had to go out to get his prescription refilled and noticed they were accepting walk-ins at the mall again, so he stopped and got his booster at the same place. He met me at the door and showed me his card, I think he's now proud he did it. I sure hope that your sister learns something that convinces her, things have gotten bad enough that Covid is everywhere.

And welcome to DU, you're among like minded friends here.

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
21. I've been on this board since shortly after 9/11
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 05:44 AM
Jan 2022

I don't post much but do read each day. This article was just too powerful not to share.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
28. Damn
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 11:07 PM
Jan 2022

Had to stop for a some quiet moments after reading that.

I started reading about covid, actively searching for info in China, 2 years ago---next week.
And I've never read such a detailed description of what it does, the oxygen loss, and how it kills.
That was some gifted writing.
Tragic.

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