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Suburban Warrior

(405 posts)
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 12:52 PM Jan 2022

Florida Politician (Gun Nut) Killed in Road Rage Incident

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/485132-john-kuczwanski-killed-in-road-rage-incident/

Kuczwanski was arrested for a separate road rage incident at the same intersection in 2014.

John Kuczwanski, the Legislative Affairs Director for the State Board of Administration, was killed last week in what appeared to be a shootout during a road rage incident north of Tallahassee.

The Leon County Sheriff’s Office took one person into custody after the Jan. 6 events, however that person has since been released and no charges have been filed, according to a Thursday LCSO news release.

The office issued an initial statement reporting a fatal shooting that occurred last Thursday, shortly after 5 p.m., near the intersection of Bannerman Road and Thomasville Road, following an altercation between two drivers. Thursday’s release confirmed Kuczwanski was killed in the incident. The investigation into what occurred is still ongoing.
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Florida Politician (Gun Nut) Killed in Road Rage Incident (Original Post) Suburban Warrior Jan 2022 OP
"A Florida man..........." PatSeg Jan 2022 #1
++++, my first thought too. Nt NNadir Jan 2022 #38
stand your ground against a repug samsingh Jan 2022 #44
Florida man effed up. He was supposed to only intimidate out-of-staters who aren't carrying. TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #47
That's interesting PatSeg Jan 2022 #50
He asked for it. dalton99a Jan 2022 #2
Triggered by a Prius! FSogol Jan 2022 #5
He didn't expect the Prius driver to have a gun. They think theirs is the only side that has guns NightWatcher Jan 2022 #6
I think that was the guy's calculus as well. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2022 #13
Yup. Joinfortmill Jan 2022 #40
Yikes. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #10
Just wow. dchill Jan 2022 #16
Holy cow. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #19
He was a quiet fellow & the previous 2014 incident - Red Pest Jan 2022 #39
He let his guns do his talking for him. tblue37 Jan 2022 #42
omg. Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #51
I'm sure they were both standing their ground. So everything's ok Emile Jan 2022 #3
Ground stood. dchill Jan 2022 #4
His Final Stand dweller Jan 2022 #9
That's appropriate! Bluepinky Jan 2022 #52
Well, if John Kuczwanski shot 1st then the other guy did stand his ground Escurumbele Jan 2022 #32
His wife is apparently quite a nutter as well. cloudbase Jan 2022 #7
Yeah. "His wife said he was a victim. . ." rsdsharp Jan 2022 #30
she should thank her lucky stars she never got shot during one of his tantrums. rurallib Jan 2022 #34
I find it ironic that the people who push the most for concealed carry Ray Bruns Jan 2022 #36
Oh, this white-on-white crime is getting to be too much. brush Jan 2022 #8
He apparently died doing what he loved! Coventina Jan 2022 #11
Thinning the herd. calimary Jan 2022 #27
Granddad told me, 'if you live like an idiot, you'll probably die as one' Torchlight Jan 2022 #12
Darwin Award for the week. n/t MicaelS Jan 2022 #14
Kuczwanski was obviously a ticking time bomb. Girard442 Jan 2022 #15
Yup, that gene pool of stupid is gone forever...nt mitch96 Jan 2022 #31
That's only a few miles from me. csziggy Jan 2022 #17
An armed society is a polite society. Pew pew pew Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2022 #18
I have a brother who is a gun nut... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #41
It's Florida. Assume everyone is armed XanaDUer2 Jan 2022 #20
Another one bites the dust TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #21
Guns Fever maxsolomon Jan 2022 #22
Live by the gun, die by the gun... nt BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #23
Proper gun control would presumably have saved his life. That first Hortensis Jan 2022 #24
I've stopped feeling guilty over Schadenfreude. nt LAS14 Jan 2022 #25
Yeah, no kidding! That pretty much sums me up, too, my friend. calimary Jan 2022 #28
Same here. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jan 2022 #43
All kinds of ways ... Martin Eden Jan 2022 #26
funny, when I lived in the area in the 80s , that was a lonely little intersection. KG Jan 2022 #29
There are twice as many people in the state as there were in the '80's (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2022 #33
Some good news! Live by the gun -die by the gun. n/t TeamProg Jan 2022 #35
So... rownesheck Jan 2022 #37
Yee Haw...Murica UrbanProspector Jan 2022 #45
That does it. Snackshack Jan 2022 #46
Just another gun nut. No surprise here! 634-5789 Jan 2022 #48
live by the gun, die by the gun. nt Javaman Jan 2022 #49

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
1. "A Florida man..........."
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jan 2022

Sigh, yet again.

Interesting that a person was in custody and then released without charges.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
47. Florida man effed up. He was supposed to only intimidate out-of-staters who aren't carrying.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:49 PM
Jan 2022

.

I have family down there and haven't been there in several years. FL gets no more money from me.

I've noticed a weird trend visiting there 3-4 times a year. If you drive with out-of-state plates the drivers are more prone to fuck with you on a daily basis. If you drive with in-state plates, they generally don't start any conflicts at all. Same class of car, same driver, just the plates were different. I attributed this to the CCW and SYG laws.

It got to the point where I would only rent a car that had Florida plates on them, until I said, "Fuck FL."

.

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
50. That's interesting
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jan 2022

and totally believable. I don't blame you for staying away from Florida. It is like another country, close to a third world country in many respects.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
2. He asked for it.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jan 2022
Sources familiar with details of the investigation told Florida Politics that Kuczwanski apparently caused the auto accident that began the chain of events, and that he began the shootout that led to his own death.

The sources said the incident began after Kuczwanski’s BMW drifted out of its lane while heading north on Thomasville Road. The BMW hit a white Prius.

Both cars pulled into a parking lot. The driver of the Prius confronted Kuczwanski about hitting him, the sources said. The Prius’ driver got in his car to wait for law enforcement after confronting Kuczwanski. That is when, according to Florida Politics’ sources, Kuczwanski rammed his BMW into the Prius on the driver’s door, and began pushing the car sideways in the parking lot.

Kuczwanski then shot a gun at the white Prius, according to the sources. The Prius driver drew a gun and fired back into the windshield of Kuczwanski’s BMW. Kuczwanski was hit and killed, according to the sources.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. He didn't expect the Prius driver to have a gun. They think theirs is the only side that has guns
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jan 2022

They're going to get a real surprise one of these days just like that guy f'd around and found out.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,601 posts)
13. I think that was the guy's calculus as well.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jan 2022

He assumed a Prius driver would be unarmed. He calc'd wrong.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
39. He was a quiet fellow & the previous 2014 incident -
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:54 PM
Jan 2022
Dennis MacKee, speaking on behalf of the State Board of Administration, said he could not confirm that Kuczwanski was the person killed in the road rage incident, but confirmed that he died Thursday, according to the Tallahassee Democrat.

“He was a quiet fellow,” MacKee said. “Everything in his world was about his family.”

Previously, Kuczwanski pleaded no contest to assault and disorderly conduct charges in 2014 related to a separate road rage incident at the same intersection, as first reported by Tallahassee Reports.

According to the probable cause affidavit for that case, deputies were dispatched after a driver called to report that another driver had “pointed a small, black in color handgun with a mounted laser at him while stopped next to him at the intersection of Thomasville Road and Bannerman Road.”

Law enforcement found Kuczwanski still inside the vehicle matching the description from the caller when they responded to that 2014 incident. A deputy verified that Kuczwanski had a weapon matching the caller’s description and arrested him on the scene. He was later sentenced to probation, which was completed in 2018.


You've got to watch out for the quiet fellows where everything is about their families.

Bluepinky

(2,276 posts)
52. That's appropriate!
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jan 2022

That saying should be on a lot of tombstones in Florida, with all the gun nuts down there.

Escurumbele

(3,402 posts)
32. Well, if John Kuczwanski shot 1st then the other guy did stand his ground
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:18 PM
Jan 2022

Not that I agree with that crazy law, but it seems to have been in self defense.

Ray Bruns

(4,111 posts)
36. I find it ironic that the people who push the most for concealed carry
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jan 2022

are the ones who who shouldn't be allowed to own guns in the first place.

brush

(53,843 posts)
8. Oh, this white-on-white crime is getting to be too much.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jan 2022

But seriously, ya just know the guy who was released, after killing a white guy during a shoot-out resulting from an accident in traffic, (what could be more routine in Floriduh :sarcasm , just had to be another white guy.

Again, the guy was released. Florida is crazy.

Torchlight

(3,360 posts)
12. Granddad told me, 'if you live like an idiot, you'll probably die as one'
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jan 2022

Temper tantrums do not belong behind the driver's wheel.

Girard442

(6,084 posts)
15. Kuczwanski was obviously a ticking time bomb.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jan 2022

Don't want to see anybody killed in a road-rage shootout, but I don't miss him now that he's gone.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
17. That's only a few miles from me.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jan 2022

I wonder if that has anything to do with the Sheriff's deputies which came out later last night, about 7 PM? There had been reports of someone roaming around in our woods with a flashlight.

It turns out that now that we've had cold enough weather for the underbrush to clear out, whoever put in the report could see lights from some of the houses through the trees they are not used to seeing. Duh.

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
41. I have a brother who is a gun nut...
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jan 2022

I'd not spoken to him in many years until I moved to Colorado (a good number of my family has relocated here, I love it). I'd heard him repeatedly use this phrase during the first few times we got together, and I found it really weird for a gun nut to use, so I finally asked him if he knew the context, origin and actual meaning... He did not... Of course. So... I explained it to him but he did not believe me and just got angry... Of course. We never discussed it again, but I expect he did look it up as he has never again used it

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Proper gun control would presumably have saved his life. That first
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:53 PM
Jan 2022

incident should have disarmed him, at least legally.

Doncha love the big lies immediately generated, like mental muscle memory of long practice.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,982 posts)
43. Same here.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jan 2022


I read sorryantvaxxer.com yesterday while enjoying a large, fresh-baked slice of schaedenfreude. And the accompanying two scoops of irony went with it nicely.
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