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hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 09:01 PM Jan 2022

Here Marc Elias' analysis of Schumers soon to be unleashed strategy to defeat fillibuster on Voting

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🚨BREAKING: Senator Schumer announces plan to push through filibuster and proceed with voting rights legislation using a procedure known as "messages between the Houses" in a caucus memo.

Here's what you need to know🧵👇
When the House and Senate pass different versions of the same bill, the bill must go through reconciliation in order for the chambers to approve the same bill text. Messages between the Houses is a form of reconciliation.
Here's what happens: when chambers disagree on bill text, they can send the bill back and forth to each other with revisions until a final text is agreed upon. Once the bill has been sent between chambers 3 times, the motion to proceed CANNOT be filibustered in the Senate.
Democrats in the House will take a bill that has already undergone messages between the Houses 3 times, substitute the bill's language for the #FreedomToVoteAct and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, pass the legislation and quickly send it to the Senate. #JLVRAA
Once the Senate receives the bill, it will go to the floor for debate. Senate Republicans will be unable to filibuster debate on the bill like they had done 3 times prior on voting rights legislation in 2021. They will have to come to the floor and debate the bill.
During floor debate, you can expect senators to give speeches about the bill and filibuster reform. Amendments can also be added to the bill. Republicans will likely propose amendments to try and remove voter protections.
After senators speak, a motion will be made to end debate on the bill and move to final passage. Republican senators could filibuster the motion, but that would be the opportunity for Senate Democrats to pass a carveout of the filibuster rules for voting rights legislation.
While it's not known how long debate will last, we can expect that a final vote will happen by Monday — Martin Luther King Jr. Day — at the latest. This was the deadline Sen. Schumer set earlier this month in a "Dear Colleague" letter.
The next few days will be very busy in the Senate. Catch the latest updates on our live #DemocracyAlerts page.👇



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Here Marc Elias' analysis of Schumers soon to be unleashed strategy to defeat fillibuster on Voting (Original Post) hlthe2b Jan 2022 OP
WOW I thought so . ... Lovie777 Jan 2022 #1
It will not work, as it still relies on getting a carve-out passed, which Manchin and Sinema Celerity Jan 2022 #4
Senator Testor came out today and said "if a carve out is needed to pass voting rights then I'm in." PortTack Jan 2022 #5
Good for Tester! The 2 who always were the huge problem are Coal and Curtsy. Celerity Jan 2022 #6
Good to know that he can pull a rabbit out Sanity Claws Jan 2022 #2
Can this work only if both Houses are controlled by the same party? keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #3
This will be fun to watch LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #8

Celerity

(43,339 posts)
4. It will not work, as it still relies on getting a carve-out passed, which Manchin and Sinema
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 09:35 PM
Jan 2022

will not vote for. Kelly and Tester are also balking at a carve out now as well. Maybe others lurking out there.

Full explanation here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16240203

PortTack

(32,762 posts)
5. Senator Testor came out today and said "if a carve out is needed to pass voting rights then I'm in."
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 10:31 PM
Jan 2022

JMHO..Kelly will go along. He sees sinema being totally roasted at home and will definitely be primaried.

Celerity

(43,339 posts)
6. Good for Tester! The 2 who always were the huge problem are Coal and Curtsy.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 10:39 PM
Jan 2022

I agree on Kelly, he would never be the single holdout.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
3. Can this work only if both Houses are controlled by the same party?
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jan 2022

Can this work only if both Houses are controlled by the same party?

Could either majority leader refuse to discuss it?

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