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LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 02:56 PM Jan 2022

We deserve to lose our Congressional majorities when our elected officials do not support the people

I am looking squarely at two disloyal senators who are blocking pretty much our entire agenda in the Senate.

Why should people elect Democrats when those elected Democrats will not act upon the will of the people?

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We deserve to lose our Congressional majorities when our elected officials do not support the people (Original Post) LonePirate Jan 2022 OP
Fuck that noise unweird Jan 2022 #1
ummm... No Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #2
Because it will get a heck of a lot worse. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #3
We Do Not Deserve to Lose our Congressional Majorities Budi Jan 2022 #4
We don't deserve this snowybirdie Jan 2022 #5
Thank you wryter2000 Jan 2022 #8
Bullshit. We don't deserve to lose our majorities just because of two rogue senators Ocelot II Jan 2022 #6
Two senators have damaged our party a great deal. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #7
People voted for things they wanted Dems to give them. Dems failed. They will now try with Repubs. LonePirate Jan 2022 #9
Yes indeed. Campaign promises will not be kept. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #10
Maybe don't "deserve" but most voters don't do subtlety LT Barclay Jan 2022 #11
We? qazplm135 Jan 2022 #12
That's what happens if you don't fight or play dirty ck4829 Jan 2022 #14
If you start preaching qazplm135 Jan 2022 #18
Defeatist crap that helps nothing Downtown Hound Jan 2022 #13
This MustLoveBeagles Jan 2022 #22
An entire senate majority in the next election should be determined by two senators? unblock Jan 2022 #15
Yes, clearly we are better off in the minority bottomofthehill Jan 2022 #16
That's a frankly stupid way to look at it Silent3 Jan 2022 #17
Exactly how do you think voters in general will look at it when Dems do not deliver for them? LonePirate Jan 2022 #19
Yes, and *I* don't deserve to suffer for their low-information, irrational stupidity Silent3 Jan 2022 #21
What Are People RobinA Jan 2022 #23
NO budkin Jan 2022 #20

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
2. ummm... No
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:01 PM
Jan 2022

Because of two reps being assholes, Dems deserve to lose their majority? Yeah... Fuck that shit.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
5. We don't deserve this
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jan 2022

81 million of us voted for Democracy. Put the. Blame where it belongs, squarely in the laps of two Senators who were bribable. A shunning, loss of committee assignments and loss of benefits to their states is in order.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
8. Thank you
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:06 PM
Jan 2022

Those two deserve to lose their seats, and I imagine Sinema won't win her primary. But the rest of us don't deserve this.

I took calls to help voters in NC in November 2020. I made calls to GA for the two senators. No way do I deserve to have the Republicans take over.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
6. Bullshit. We don't deserve to lose our majorities just because of two rogue senators
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jan 2022

who represent (just barely) a tiny fraction of all Democrats, or all citizens. Fuck that noise.

Irish_Dem

(46,995 posts)
7. Two senators have damaged our party a great deal.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jan 2022

I don't think we deserve the fall out.

But I see your point, the public may indeed be thinking along the lines you suggest.



LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
9. People voted for things they wanted Dems to give them. Dems failed. They will now try with Repubs.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:07 PM
Jan 2022

Granted, the Repubs won't give them those things either;; but the Republican Party will obscure that failure. It's not just the Senate. This ban on congressional stock trading which Pelosi opposes is another item which is very popular among the public but won't pass for ridiculous reasons. We are going to get shellacked in November for failing to deliver for the American people.

Irish_Dem

(46,995 posts)
10. Yes indeed. Campaign promises will not be kept.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:10 PM
Jan 2022

I do not understand how we didn't know that McConnell had flipped two of our senators.

LT Barclay

(2,596 posts)
11. Maybe don't "deserve" but most voters don't do subtlety
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:12 PM
Jan 2022

So that is what happened to Clinton and Obama in midterms

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
14. That's what happens if you don't fight or play dirty
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jan 2022

If you "keep the powder dry", "sit back and enjoy the show", "don't want to get your hands dirty", or "leave this whole thing to someone else".

You're not going to like the results.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
18. If you start preaching
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jan 2022

To sit home to "teach lessons" you're usually someone privileged enough to survive said lesson.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
13. Defeatist crap that helps nothing
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:12 PM
Jan 2022

The solution is to elect more Dems so that the two assholes holding everything up are irrelevant. You kind of rhetoric is not going to help make that happen, to put it politely.

unblock

(52,205 posts)
15. An entire senate majority in the next election should be determined by two senators?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:19 PM
Jan 2022

Wtf?

What we the people deserve is a solid majority of senators eager to fight for the people.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
16. Yes, clearly we are better off in the minority
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jan 2022

How dare we not deliver even though there are 52 people who do not agree in a 50/50 Senate. Here is a thought, let’s elect a few more democrats instead of thinking the right idea is to give up the majority.

Silent3

(15,206 posts)
17. That's a frankly stupid way to look at it
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:29 PM
Jan 2022

When a bare majority of Democrats can't get the people what they want, but the great majority of that majority is doing it's best, then the SMART thing is to elect MORE Democrats so outliers like Manchin and Sinema can't fuck things up.

But your way of thinking, the fuck-the-details-I'm-pissed-and-that's-what-counts attitude, plays perfectly into the Republican's playbook. So congrats on being a willing participant in the dumbing-down of democracy.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
19. Exactly how do you think voters in general will look at it when Dems do not deliver for them?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jan 2022

Do you really think the masses of low information voters are going to give Dems another crack at things or do you think they will switch over to Republicans because they have no idea what Republicans really represent? People are naive at best if they think these voters are going to stand beside the Democrats here.

Silent3

(15,206 posts)
21. Yes, and *I* don't deserve to suffer for their low-information, irrational stupidity
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jan 2022

But if you want to claim that you deserve to suffer for it, have at it.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
23. What Are People
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 04:34 PM
Jan 2022

looking for from Democrats that they haven't delivered that might now be delivered by Republicans? Who thinks like this? I've been waiting DECADES for Democrats to get rid of the death penalty, but I'm not so delusional that I think I should give Repubs a chance. Obama said he was going to close Guantanamo, he didn't, so now I will vote for Republicans because they might? Never.

I don't think it's about people switching sides in the hope that the other side will make good on the first side's campaign promises. I think it's about who turns out. When people don't get what they want they stay home because "both parties are the same."

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