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After Biden meeting, Manchin issues lengthy statement: "I will not vote to eliminate or weaken the.. (Original Post) demmiblue Jan 2022 OP
It's coming down to JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #1
The GQP has already showed/told Dems that THEIR votes shouldn't & won't count. LenaBaby61 Jan 2022 #4
Not certain this is the end JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #5
How can you retaliate when you have NO power, and your voted do NOT count? LenaBaby61 Jan 2022 #9
I said nothing about voting JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #14
Yep. demmiblue Jan 2022 #6
Skip reading Manchin's bull shit and just know that the Fossil Fuel Industries have backed this ... Botany Jan 2022 #2
I'm getting really sick of the phrase "tyranny of the majority" Poiuyt Jan 2022 #3
Yeah, those poor, poor CEOs are soooo outnumbered by all us peons. God only knows what we'd do Hekate Jan 2022 #8
We've had "tyranny of the minority" for quite some time now Freddie Jan 2022 #19
Yeah, that sometimes gets forgotten Poiuyt Jan 2022 #36
I'M PISSED!!! So much to say here... but better to hold my fire. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2022 #7
Another evil person masquerading as a public servant Eid Ma Clack Shaw Jan 2022 #10
Somehow, someway we need to get to 52 Democratic Senators. Rhiagel Jan 2022 #11
why can't Joe issue an Executive Order? agingdem Jan 2022 #16
He did somewhat back in March. Rhiagel Jan 2022 #21
Because executive orders only cover federal laws/regulations/employees. Drunken Irishman Jan 2022 #33
He already has with the debt ceiling !! Manchin is 100% full of shit. uponit7771 Jan 2022 #12
I wonder how much he is getting paid? kimbutgar Jan 2022 #13
In the Senate we get stuck with the wrong people for 6 Years. pwb Jan 2022 #15
Manchin is a damn fool if he doesn't think his precious filibuster isn't coming down... Docreed2003 Jan 2022 #17
Schumer must Make. Him. Vote. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #18
Absolutely! PortTack Jan 2022 #34
Bring it to a vote and make them record it budkin Jan 2022 #20
Absolutely! BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #23
So I'm sure he mentioned how much the gop needs to stop abusing the filibuster law, and wiggs Jan 2022 #22
Can the blue states join Canada when Democracy dies? LW1977 Jan 2022 #24
Will no Republicans vote for the bill? iemanja Jan 2022 #25
Why would they? DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2022 #29
The Sinema and Manchin Memorial Dictatorship? Crunchy Frog Jan 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jan 2022 #27
Fuck these people. If they don't kacekwl Jan 2022 #28
Vote in 2022 to eliminate or weaken Manchin. W_HAMILTON Jan 2022 #30
did mitch mcconnell write that speech for Manchin? nt msongs Jan 2022 #31
Elect enough Democrats in the Senate so Manchin and Sinema lose key committee assignments. LiberalFighter Jan 2022 #32
I'm getting more curious about how, specifically, Biden has approached negotiations with Manchin. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #35

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
4. The GQP has already showed/told Dems that THEIR votes shouldn't & won't count.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jan 2022

Looks like the treasonous fools from WV & Az have WON, on helping the GQP US Taliban Party FINALLY get RID of what little bit of democracy we had left. The GQP will get hold of this country, and turn it into something WORSE than what happened on January 6th.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
9. How can you retaliate when you have NO power, and your voted do NOT count?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jan 2022

Look at Russia. That's what the treasonous GQP US Taliban Party wants over here in this country and worse.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
14. I said nothing about voting
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jan 2022

I was in DC as an intern during Rwanda - and my work ostensibly was focused on the VAW - but I was there because of a paper on Genocide working for a congress woman.


I suspect people that look like me, other minorities, the GLBT communities and religious minorities -with some cisgender white LIBERAL christians -

Might go Hutu. Give it 5-10 years. Max.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
2. Skip reading Manchin's bull shit and just know that the Fossil Fuel Industries have backed this ...
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jan 2022

... up to Joe's yacht or house. The fossil fuel industry as it is now operated is worth > 1 trillion $s and
it will pay anything to keep the gravy train running.



Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
3. I'm getting really sick of the phrase "tyranny of the majority"
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jan 2022

I'm sure the Founders didn't mean for that to mean "minority rules."

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
8. Yeah, those poor, poor CEOs are soooo outnumbered by all us peons. God only knows what we'd do
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:23 PM
Jan 2022

…if we actually had power.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
19. We've had "tyranny of the minority" for quite some time now
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:41 PM
Jan 2022

The Founding Fathers meant to “protect minority interests”, not “ensure complete minority rule.”

Rhiagel

(1,676 posts)
11. Somehow, someway we need to get to 52 Democratic Senators.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jan 2022

Make these 2 showboats irrelevant. Then, make DC the 51st state, which will add 2 more for the good guys.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
33. Because executive orders only cover federal laws/regulations/employees.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:03 PM
Jan 2022

It's why Harry Truman could desegregate the army with an executive order, since the army is federal.

Elections, however, are not. He's limited in what he can do. Since elections are held at the state level, an executive order would not cover state election laws.

kimbutgar

(21,147 posts)
13. I wonder how much he is getting paid?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:29 PM
Jan 2022

How much money does this cretin need to not destroy our democracy?

pwb

(11,263 posts)
15. In the Senate we get stuck with the wrong people for 6 Years.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:33 PM
Jan 2022

That needs more attention election time.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
17. Manchin is a damn fool if he doesn't think his precious filibuster isn't coming down...
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:40 PM
Jan 2022

...the first chance the GOP gets to make that change if they gain a majority in the Senate.
The writing is on the wall.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
23. Absolutely!
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:47 PM
Jan 2022

Time to strip the filibuster fig leaf off these traitors and bring Voting Rights and each individual piece of the Build Back Better act to the floor and force votes. Dozens of votes… Hundreds of vote if necessary. It’s time to cut the crap and put these DINOs on record. Enough is enough.

wiggs

(7,813 posts)
22. So I'm sure he mentioned how much the gop needs to stop abusing the filibuster law, and
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:45 PM
Jan 2022

that he'll work day and night to get some gop senators to back election and voting law reforms which are badly needed.

Did he say that?

LW1977

(1,234 posts)
24. Can the blue states join Canada when Democracy dies?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jan 2022

So tired of hearing about these two! Democracy is dead!

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
28. Fuck these people. If they don't
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jan 2022

want to legislate and do their job get the fuck out and stop holding EVERY GOD DAMN THING UP. Call it a hung jury and bring replacement legislators. This is total nonsense already. Yes I'm talking to the two assholes from WV and Arizona and any other "Democratic party" members who won't get it together.

W_HAMILTON

(7,866 posts)
30. Vote in 2022 to eliminate or weaken Manchin.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 06:34 PM
Jan 2022

Let's get some more Democrats from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party in the Senate so that we never have to give another damn what Manchin says or does.

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