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Man who got the pig heart stabbed another man 7 times in a jealous rage. (Original Post) MoonRiver Jan 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jan 2022 #1
Someone telling porkies ? OnDoutside Jan 2022 #2
Someone squealed to the news Hekate Jan 2022 #8
. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2022 #12
Maybe karma will kick in. grumpyduck Jan 2022 #3
Maybe the docs figured he would be the perfect subject for an experimental procedure. tblue37 Jan 2022 #4
Exactly. And he agreed to take the substantial risk of being the first experimental subject. hedda_foil Jan 2022 #5
I agree Hekate Jan 2022 #6
The family is basically arguing for perpetual vengeance beyond justice imposed. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #7
That was my take on it too Victor_c3 Jan 2022 #14
Yeah, I understand where they're coming from and would doubtless feel the same if it were me. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #20
+1 IzzaNuDay Jan 2022 #15
It's 100% a factor in recidivism rates. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #19
I've noticed a whole lot of blood lust here on this site! radicalleft Jan 2022 #24
Makes zero difference obamanut2012 Jan 2022 #9
So the victims brother killed himself with drugs a few years later from grief. JanMichael Jan 2022 #17
Five years sounds like very little time whathehell Jan 2022 #18
Nevertheless, the doctors apparently decided Mariana Jan 2022 #21
Nevertheless, I understand why the family is pissed off whathehell Jan 2022 #23
I don't blame the family of the stabbing victim for being irratated at what they see as in injustice SYFROYH Jan 2022 #10
Maybe he's had a change of heart. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2022 #11
Too good! (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2022 #13
That appears to be the case. MoonRiver Jan 2022 #25
He *needs* to have a good and long life though. We all need it. ck4829 Jan 2022 #16
The family who suffered that loss should love the pig-hearted recipient to death! Backseat Driver Jan 2022 #22

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Jedi Guy

(3,190 posts)
7. The family is basically arguing for perpetual vengeance beyond justice imposed.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:25 PM
Jan 2022

Mr. Bennett was tried for his crime, found guilty, sentenced, served his sentence, and was released. Part of the social contract is that if one commits a crime and is jailed, that time spent in prison is one's "debt to society." The implication there is that once that sentence has been served, the debt is paid.

They're arguing that his debt isn't paid despite the time Mr. Bennett spent in prison. That's not justice, it's vengeance in perpetuity. I understand they're coming at it from a position of emotion rather than rationality, but that doesn't change the fundamental fact that once an inmate's sentence is over, their punishment should also be over.

Beyond that, he volunteered for a procedure that could have gone wrong and caused substantial suffering or even killed him. Because of his choice to do so, others (whom society may deem "more deserving" ) may live.

I'm okay with the situation, but I hope the family is able to find some kind of peace with the situation.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
14. That was my take on it too
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jan 2022

The guy served his time and supposedly paid his dues to society.

I know if my family member would have been the victim I’d be enraged too, but that doesn’t mean I’d be right.

Jedi Guy

(3,190 posts)
20. Yeah, I understand where they're coming from and would doubtless feel the same if it were me.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jan 2022

But I don't agree with acting on their feelings. By volunteering for the procedure and taking that risk, he may have enabled thousands of people to live who otherwise would have died. I'm okay with that.

IzzaNuDay

(362 posts)
15. +1
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jan 2022

Why some folks believe in perpetual punishment, even past serving time is beyond my comprehension. I think this is a factor in USA recidivism rates.

Jedi Guy

(3,190 posts)
19. It's 100% a factor in recidivism rates.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:28 PM
Jan 2022

If I were released from prison after paying my "debt to society" only to find that no one would hire me, no one would trust me, people looked down on me and mocked me for being an "ex-con"... damned right I'd be bitter at society. Not only that, but if I'm not able to find a job that allows me to live by legal means, that leaves me little choice but to earn a living by other means.

Justice in the US isn't about rehabilitation, it's about punishment and vengeance, and it always has been. I'll admit to a visceral emotional reaction of "good" when someone suffers after committing a particularly heinous crime, such as rape and/or murder of children. But if a sentence is imposed and completed, that should be the end of it and all rights should be restored. The debt is paid.

radicalleft

(478 posts)
24. I've noticed a whole lot of blood lust here on this site!
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jan 2022

Many posters want people "locked up" for non-violent offenses I.e., people that have made bad choices (see Cleveland tree cutting).

JanMichael

(24,887 posts)
17. So the victims brother killed himself with drugs a few years later from grief.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jan 2022

Due to the brother being a EMT who dropped the victim off at the bar where he was ambushed and stabbed 7 times by pig heart then the brother was called back to that scene which was awful.

Then it appears that the pig heart guy served around 5 years for the attack which left the victim in a wheelchair until his death.

I get why they have not "moved on". That said I do not fault the doctors who are not supposed to judge.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
21. Nevertheless, the doctors apparently decided
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:42 PM
Jan 2022

That he was the best available candidate for this medical experiment. And, he consented to be experimented upon.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
23. Nevertheless, I understand why the family is pissed off
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jan 2022

They're likely even MORE angry at the absurdly light sentence he received.

SYFROYH

(34,170 posts)
10. I don't blame the family of the stabbing victim for being irratated at what they see as in injustice
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:30 PM
Jan 2022

But that's not how we do medicine.

ck4829

(35,076 posts)
16. He *needs* to have a good and long life though. We all need it.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sun Feb 13, 2022, 04:55 AM - Edit history (1)

This medical innovation could eventually eliminate the need for human donors for organs and waitlists.

https://deepblueleague.freeforums.net/board/109/sour-oil-project

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
22. The family who suffered that loss should love the pig-hearted recipient to death!
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jan 2022
All (Men) Must Suffer Life and Die!

My brother never left home and cared for my mother into her old age. I lost both this past year after a long estrangement. He gave up on treatment of liver disease (NASH) and pancreatic disease (BIG C) both of which are transplantable now, but perhaps as "the Golden Child" he eschewed early medical interventions in favor of theirs??? His doctors told him there was nothing more they could do, that he'd die on the table, so both gave up on life and chose hospice, across the hall from each other, no less. He and my sister, the SMART one, likely knew darn well that my kids and I had been totally disinherited in favor of her and her forever challenged child. She dumped them unceremoniously in their graves. Talk about the future grief and motherly suffering she'll have as time goes by, then stops!
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