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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMan who got the pig heart stabbed another man 7 times in a jealous rage.
Victim's family is furious that attacker gets a second chance at life, while their loved one was paralyzed and eventually died from his injuries.
https://news.yahoo.com/once-stabbed-man-seven-times-155320516.html
Response to MoonRiver (Original post)
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OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)I'll get my own coat....
Hekate
(90,683 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Thats so bad I couldnt help but laugh
grumpyduck
(6,235 posts)tblue37
(65,357 posts)hedda_foil
(16,374 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,190 posts)Mr. Bennett was tried for his crime, found guilty, sentenced, served his sentence, and was released. Part of the social contract is that if one commits a crime and is jailed, that time spent in prison is one's "debt to society." The implication there is that once that sentence has been served, the debt is paid.
They're arguing that his debt isn't paid despite the time Mr. Bennett spent in prison. That's not justice, it's vengeance in perpetuity. I understand they're coming at it from a position of emotion rather than rationality, but that doesn't change the fundamental fact that once an inmate's sentence is over, their punishment should also be over.
Beyond that, he volunteered for a procedure that could have gone wrong and caused substantial suffering or even killed him. Because of his choice to do so, others (whom society may deem "more deserving" ) may live.
I'm okay with the situation, but I hope the family is able to find some kind of peace with the situation.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)The guy served his time and supposedly paid his dues to society.
I know if my family member would have been the victim Id be enraged too, but that doesnt mean Id be right.
Jedi Guy
(3,190 posts)But I don't agree with acting on their feelings. By volunteering for the procedure and taking that risk, he may have enabled thousands of people to live who otherwise would have died. I'm okay with that.
Why some folks believe in perpetual punishment, even past serving time is beyond my comprehension. I think this is a factor in USA recidivism rates.
Jedi Guy
(3,190 posts)If I were released from prison after paying my "debt to society" only to find that no one would hire me, no one would trust me, people looked down on me and mocked me for being an "ex-con"... damned right I'd be bitter at society. Not only that, but if I'm not able to find a job that allows me to live by legal means, that leaves me little choice but to earn a living by other means.
Justice in the US isn't about rehabilitation, it's about punishment and vengeance, and it always has been. I'll admit to a visceral emotional reaction of "good" when someone suffers after committing a particularly heinous crime, such as rape and/or murder of children. But if a sentence is imposed and completed, that should be the end of it and all rights should be restored. The debt is paid.
radicalleft
(478 posts)Many posters want people "locked up" for non-violent offenses I.e., people that have made bad choices (see Cleveland tree cutting).
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)The victim's family needs to move on.
JanMichael
(24,887 posts)Due to the brother being a EMT who dropped the victim off at the bar where he was ambushed and stabbed 7 times by pig heart then the brother was called back to that scene which was awful.
Then it appears that the pig heart guy served around 5 years for the attack which left the victim in a wheelchair until his death.
I get why they have not "moved on". That said I do not fault the doctors who are not supposed to judge.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)for all the damage this creep did
Mariana
(14,857 posts)That he was the best available candidate for this medical experiment. And, he consented to be experimented upon.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)They're likely even MORE angry at the absurdly light sentence he received.
SYFROYH
(34,170 posts)But that's not how we do medicine.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)PJMcK
(22,037 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)ck4829
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Backseat Driver
(4,392 posts)My brother never left home and cared for my mother into her old age. I lost both this past year after a long estrangement. He gave up on treatment of liver disease (NASH) and pancreatic disease (BIG C) both of which are transplantable now, but perhaps as "the Golden Child" he eschewed early medical interventions in favor of theirs??? His doctors told him there was nothing more they could do, that he'd die on the table, so both gave up on life and chose hospice, across the hall from each other, no less. He and my sister, the SMART one, likely knew darn well that my kids and I had been totally disinherited in favor of her and her forever challenged child. She dumped them unceremoniously in their graves. Talk about the future grief and motherly suffering she'll have as time goes by, then stops!