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Nevilledog

(51,203 posts)
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:01 PM Jan 2022

They're Too Extreme for QAnon -- and Right at Home at Trump's Rally



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The presence of the JFK Jr. obsessed QAnon cult and Big Lie peddlers at last night's Trump rally underscores the terrifying fusion between extreme conspiracy theorists and a MAGA movement that controls the Republican Party.

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Donald Trump supporter Jonathan Riches holds a "Trump 24, Or Before" sign ahead of the first rally of the year by former US President Donald Trump on January 15, 2022, at the Canyon Moon Ranch festival grounds in Florence, Arizona, southeast of Phoenix. - Riches, from Florida, is a "Front Row Joe," a group of supporters who travel to most or all Trump rallies. (Photo by Robyn Beck / AFP) (Photo by ROBYN BECK/AFP via...
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They're Too Extreme for QAnon -- and Right at Home at Trump's Rally
Michael Protzman tells his followers that JFK Jr. and other dead celebrities are helping Trump catch a global cabal of pedophiles.
9:18 AM · Jan 16, 2022


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-qanon-jkf-conspiracy-1286053/

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https://archive.fo/i3C27


Florence, Ariz. — One full day before Trump spoke to an estimated 15,000 die-hard Republicans in Arizona, a group of JFK Jr. obsessed QAnon fanatics arrived at the venue grounds here. They drove all the way from Dallas, Texas, where they’ve been holed up in a Hyatt hotel for over two months amid a series of failed prophecies that JFK Jr. would return from the dead. The first among them was Stephen Tenner, right hand man to the group’s leader Michael Protzman. “I’m the first person and only person,” Tenner said in a video posted on social media. “I’m the number one mofo.”

Tenner was later joined by Protzman and about two dozen members of this cultish group, whose months-long antics in Dallas have worried locals and drawn national attention. Protzman is a QAnon influencer who peddles a form of religious numerology known as “gematria,” which he infuses into his interpretations of QAnon theories. Protzman uses gematria to promote the idea that he is in direct contact with both the Kennedy family — which he believes are direct descendants of Jesus Christ — and members of the Trump inner circle. His group also trafficks in a wide range of outlandish conspiracy beliefs such as that long dead famous people such as Michael Jackson and JFK Jr. faked their deaths and are working with Donald Trump in secret to take down a global satanic pedophile cabal.

Protzman, who sometimes goes by Negative48 online, built a notable following through his Telegram channel and has drawn dozens of people to the large scale gatherings in Dallas, which has led one major influencer in the QAnon community — QAnon John, the organizer of the For God & Country Patriot Roundup — to call Protzman “crazy” and his followers “cult material.”

But in Arizona, Protzman and his group appeared to be welcomed warmly. The Protzmanians secured seats in what appeared to be a cordoned off section close to the stage. They were joined by a motley cast of other QAnon adherents including Jim Watkins, the owner of the 8kun forum where QAnon started, and his son Ron Watkins, who also goes by CodeMonkeyZ and is running for Congress in Arizona. Both of them were in Washington, D.C. on January 6.

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They're Too Extreme for QAnon -- and Right at Home at Trump's Rally (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2022 OP
Real nuts are jealous. dchill Jan 2022 #1
So are Hazel and Macadamia. ShazzieB Jan 2022 #22
I know, that's NUTS! dchill Jan 2022 #23
Dead celebrity advantage Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #2
They should be encouraged to drink more urine dalton99a Jan 2022 #3
Ha! BComplex Jan 2022 #7
"they've been holed up in a Hyatt hotel for over two months" BComplex Jan 2022 #4
I have been wondering the same thing. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #6
"People Just Don't Want To Work Anymore" ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #8
I suspect they're being bankrolled MustLoveBeagles Jan 2022 #17
Lots of MAGOT land is being bankrolled. "Blacks For Trump". Lets start there. Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #24
Blacks for Trump Slammer Jan 2022 #26
slight revision Slammer Jan 2022 #27
That whole carnival shitshow... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #5
The No. 1 Mofo is vying for a cabinet position in the new Trump administration. Chainfire Jan 2022 #9
The term struck me also. soldierant Jan 2022 #12
Only crazy people will work for Chump anymore FakeNoose Jan 2022 #15
I have see the behavior before Chainfire Jan 2022 #19
Those signs were professionally DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #10
I make signs for a living. Mostly corporate office stuff. The type of sign you see in that photo Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #13
Anybody with home computer and a simple graphics program FakeNoose Jan 2022 #16
If they put something intelligent on the sign DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #18
Literally how NAZIs acted, shit is so scary uponit7771 Jan 2022 #11
Do I K n R or do I trash? Boomerproud Jan 2022 #14
Eventually one of these venues w/ these crazies will go nuts on an unfortunate victim and bring ... SWBTATTReg Jan 2022 #20
If these were your kids you'd have them hospitalized for a break with reality bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #21
They have to be SOMEONE's kids, and that is truly sad. n/ t Beartracks Jan 2022 #25

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
2. Dead celebrity advantage
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jan 2022

Advantage for the nuts seancing the dead celebrities:
They will never tweet from the grave that they oppose Protzman or QAnon.



BComplex

(8,067 posts)
4. "they've been holed up in a Hyatt hotel for over two months"
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jan 2022

Holy crap! At $200/night, that's $12,000 on hotels in Dallas! Where in the hell are these idiots getting their money?

ProfessorGAC

(65,213 posts)
8. "People Just Don't Want To Work Anymore"
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jan 2022

Apparently that includes those nuts in Dallas.
Hard to believe they're all working remotely.
So, why isn't anyone asking them why they don't have a job? Lazy takers getting unemployment?

Slammer

(714 posts)
26. Blacks for Trump
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 04:12 AM
Jan 2022

The Black For Trump Facebook page says it is funded by the Freedom Through Truth PAC.

It's webpage looks like any typical Republican PAC webpage https://freedomtruthpac.com/

The government shows it based at

1801 Red Bud Lane
Ste B #185
Round Rock TX 78884

(929) 900-6867 (That's a NYC area code)

Lists the PAC's treasurer as Jeremy Story

https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/816/202010149285845816/202010149285845816.pdf


Now that would apparently be Jeremy Story of Round Rock TX who was arrested last September for disrupting a school board meeting. Here's his page asking for donations for his legal bills.
https://jeremystory.org/donate-to-stop-school-board-tyranny-two-fathers-arrested/

That site claims Jeremy is a minister and President of a national ministry to college students.

If you click over to the "Speaking and Consulting" page, there's more info.

Jeremy Story lives with his wife and 7 children in the Austin, TX area. He is a graduate of the University of Texas with a degree in government.

He currently serves as the President of Campus Renewal, a national non-profit serving as a catalyst to convene students and college ministers from different churches and non-profits in united prayer and mission. He recently founded, Every Student Sent, a national social network platform involving most every national campus ministry and most denominations.

Presently he also runs an IT consulting, software implementation and digital marketing business that serves non-profits and some for-profits.

He also is the state Chaplain for the Republican Party of Texas.


Every Student Sent appears to be a site to connect college students with churches in their area. I'd assume it points them to churches which agree with Jeremy's politics but I'm not going to dig deeply enough to verify that. But feel free if social media and churches are your thing: https://everystudentsent.org/
The site does require you to log in before it'll show you any church's names so at the very least, they're data harvesting. And asking for donations.


Here is Campus Renewal's website which also lists Jeremy as being on their board of directors.
https://www.campusrenewal.org/board-of-directors/

That site also says Jeremy serves on the Executive Committee of America’s National Prayer Committee, the board of the Awakening America Alliance, the Board of The National Day of Prayer, and the Executive Board of Intercessors for America.

National Day of Prayer seems to be a non-denominational Christian religious site.
https://nationalprayercommittee.com/

Awakening America seems to be a fairly straightforward religious site.
http://awakeningamerica.us/

Intercessors for America seems to be a religious-oriented anti-vax site dabbling in Republican politics.
https://ifapray.org/


Other poking around shows Jeremy Story was born on 06/20/1975 and is 46 years old. Previous to Jeremy's current city of Round Rock, TX, Jeremy Story lived in Pine Bush NY and Leander TX.

He doesn't appear to be the actual pastor of any local church that I can find.

Jeremy and his family are white so I have no idea why he's the only person listed on the government's documentation for "Blacks for Trump".

Anyway, after that long digression into Jeremy, the government shows Blacks for Trump bank through BBVA which was a Spanish bank that operated in the US. But it was bought out by PNC earlier this year so I'd guess that'll be updated in the records at some point.


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Now having said all of that, there was an earlier "Blacks for Trump" thing which was run by a member of a UFO cult. The guy used to go to the 2015-16 Trump rallies and hold a handmade "Blacks for Trump" sign and was always placed by the event organizers so the TV cameras would show him.

But the current group seems a bit more upscale with actual printed t-shirts and such. And recruiting more than one cult member with a sign.

Slammer

(714 posts)
27. slight revision
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 04:41 AM
Jan 2022

"Intercessors for America seems to be a religious-oriented anti-vax site dabbling in Republican politics."

After spending more than a few seconds on this website, I'd like to say that I was completely mistaken.

This is an extremely offensive anti-vax site which pretends to have some religious justification for that stance. It is very heavily into Republican politics. And it urges people to pray for Manchin and Sinema and thank God for them.

Chainfire

(17,644 posts)
9. The No. 1 Mofo is vying for a cabinet position in the new Trump administration.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jan 2022

He has all of the qualifications.

soldierant

(6,934 posts)
12. The term struck me also.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:23 PM
Jan 2022

Apparently they don't approve of intergenerational incest downward, bu upward makes you a leader?

Chainfire

(17,644 posts)
19. I have see the behavior before
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jan 2022

Trump likes to surround himself with people that are crazier than he is; it makes him feel normal...

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
10. Those signs were professionally
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jan 2022

designed and professionally printed.......makes you wonder who is bankrolling all their stuff we see them display........

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
13. I make signs for a living. Mostly corporate office stuff. The type of sign you see in that photo
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:38 PM
Jan 2022

doesn't cost much, but it was printed on an expensive machine that the average person wouldn't own.
Any franchise-type, strip mall sign shop could make them. Maybe even office supply stores.

These are either donated by a trump flake who has a sign business, or somebody's
bankrolling these nuts.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
16. Anybody with home computer and a simple graphics program
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:57 PM
Jan 2022

Just go to Fedex Office or Staples and print it out on a large sheet.
Paste the sheet on a poster board, and attach a stick on the back.
For about 20 bucks you got a sign.

It's too bad they can't think of anything intelligent to say on their signs though.

SWBTATTReg

(22,171 posts)
20. Eventually one of these venues w/ these crazies will go nuts on an unfortunate victim and bring ...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jan 2022

nuts to the forefront. It's just a matter of time when they'll lose control, if they haven't already.

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