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allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:02 AM Jan 2022

What's up with the Trump-DeSantis "feud"?

Last edited Tue Jan 18, 2022, 08:17 AM - Edit history (1)

Strikes me as being about as genuine as a wrestling match. Supposing that TFG is setting up the Gov as his future Veep. In the meantime, Gov runs for another wrecking ball term in Tallahassee. If Gov becomes TFG's White House sidekick, he's perfectly positioned for a 2028 run... or to become POTUS if TFG kicks the bucket.

Currently, they're obviously cross-roughing the vax issue: TFG pleases moderate Repugs with his new pro-vax stance while Gov keeps the anti-vaxxers happy. Their faux feud garners publicity for them both.

CORRECTION: Typed Greenwald instead of the correct name: Greenberg.

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What's up with the Trump-DeSantis "feud"? (Original Post) allegorical oracle Jan 2022 OP
They have to keep the cameras on themselves... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #1
+1. It is bullshit dalton99a Jan 2022 #16
The way I understand it, DeSantis isn't willing to bow and scrape when the Orange King calls. Vinca Jan 2022 #2
Trump won't be running in 2024 ... NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #3
Very curious why are you sure? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #18
Because ... NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #22
That's an interesting theory! And if he doesn't, can't Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #23
The biggest reason is to avoid jail!!!!! Crazyleftie Jan 2022 #26
Someone should ask him what he would've done in Pence's place Jan 6 Walleye Jan 2022 #4
He'd have to say "NOT follow the constitution" ey? Because Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #24
I believe snowybirdie Jan 2022 #5
This Captain Zero Jan 2022 #15
Great point... First I've thought about it. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #19
It's what happens when two narcissists want the same thing. Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #6
Exactly. There's only room for one tiger on the mountain. Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #17
Trump sees him as competition in 2024 Crazyleftie Jan 2022 #7
And not sympatico if he's trying to get credit and glorify Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #20
Testosterone . . .. Lovie777 Jan 2022 #8
Bully Betas Celerity Jan 2022 #10
I doubt that Chumpy has any left. MoonRiver Jan 2022 #11
They have always hated each other but kept it zuul Jan 2022 #9
The only difference in the two is that DeSantis has a brain. Chainfire Jan 2022 #12
DeSantis know politics in ways trump never did. He is scary...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #13
I think DeSantis and his supporters have violated Donny's First Commandment: tanyev Jan 2022 #14
Whatever trickery they're into, one thing's for certain: Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #21
It's real and a product of the Former Office Occupant's narcissism. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #25

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
2. The way I understand it, DeSantis isn't willing to bow and scrape when the Orange King calls.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jan 2022

He demands to be a lunatic in his own right.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
3. Trump won't be running in 2024 ...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:07 AM
Jan 2022

... so his choice of "future Veep" - real or imagined - is of no consequence whatsoever.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
22. Because ...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jan 2022

... if he runs in 2024 and loses (which he would), it would tend to confirm that despite his protestations, he also lost in 2020.

His ego can't handle that. He will go to his grave insisting that 2020 was "stolen" from him - and he will never risk having to let go of that narrative. Even he knows that "they stole it from me TWICE" won't be believed by even his staunchest supporters.

There are other reasons he won't run - but that's one of the bigliest.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. That's an interesting theory! And if he doesn't, can't
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jan 2022

see his ego wanting anyone else to win either. For prez, that is. That way he can still be the de facto leader without being prez.

My theory *was* that he is bored now and he has to have a new mountain to climb. Picture him in Mara Lago having long phone conversations with his "advisors" who are saying.... "You can't win with only those crazies. Cut them off - they have nowhere to go. Remember you invented the vaccine! Take credit for that and you can offset any crazy votes lost by moderating and winning back the suburbs."

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. He'd have to say "NOT follow the constitution" ey? Because
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:59 AM
Jan 2022

He was quoted in that article yesterday, by a source, as saying he wasn't worried about pence in 2024, because pence had followed the constitution.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
15. This
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:06 AM
Jan 2022

Candidates for President and VP can't be from the same state. It's in the constitution. Of course,.maybe Trump will be living on Elba by 2024.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
6. It's what happens when two narcissists want the same thing.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:13 AM
Jan 2022

I’m looking forward to the show. Trump can’t keep his mouth shut and DeSatan seems unable to ignore him.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. And not sympatico if he's trying to get credit and glorify
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:08 AM
Jan 2022

himself that HE invented the vaccine. Strikes me it would be hard for even trump to word salad his way out of that one. But what crazy repuke is pro-vaccine?

Lovie777

(12,326 posts)
8. Testosterone . . ..
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:15 AM
Jan 2022

I wouldn't call them Alpha's because both are extremely cowards but this remind me male dominates in the animal kingdom.

zuul

(14,628 posts)
9. They have always hated each other but kept it
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:21 AM
Jan 2022

quiet because they needed something from each other.

Now that they both seem to want the puke nod for the 2024 presidential election campaign, they’re finding it harder to play nice.

Plus they’re both raging narcissists.

Chainfire

(17,636 posts)
12. The only difference in the two is that DeSantis has a brain.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jan 2022

That makes him more dangerous. They are scrapping because DeSantis has the audacity to place himself as a potential rival to Trump.

I don't think that DeSantis is looking for the number two spot on the ticket. While I certainly consider him to be a #2 man, the #2 has nothing to do with his political ranking.

We better be nice to both of them, one of them is likely to be our next CEO.

tanyev

(42,610 posts)
14. I think DeSantis and his supporters have violated Donny's First Commandment:
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:06 AM
Jan 2022

Thou shalt have no other tyrants before MEEEEEEE!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
21. Whatever trickery they're into, one thing's for certain:
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jan 2022

DeSantis goes nowhere if Trump doesn't kiss his ring.

Trump don't kiss rings.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
25. It's real and a product of the Former Office Occupant's narcissism.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 02:17 PM
Jan 2022

He simply cannot and will not stand for the idea that the Republican Party be about anything or anyone other than himself.

And unless he is dead or in prison in 2024, he has every intention of running for the Republican nomination and fully expects everyone else to defer and get out of the way for him. Including Ron DeSantis, who in Trump's mind, he "created."

Loyalty is a one-way street for Trump. Never, ever forget that.

And the fact that DeSantis has gathered a rather vocal following in and of itself is forever going to be a sore spot for Trump's ego.

As for the idea of DeSantis as Trump's VP nominee, unless Trump is willing to renounce his Florida citizenship (or somehow DeSantis bizarrely is willing to do so), that won't happen. The Constitution would require any electoral votes to be forfeited from a state where both the Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees are from the same state, and nobody's stupid enough to throw away 29 electoral votes like that.

The rivalry is real and it will only get uglier. Both men are terrible, terrible choices, although I will long maintain that DeSantis is more Nixonian in his leadership style than he is Trumpian. Not that that's a good thing, mind you.

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