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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:14 PM Jan 2022

Inconvenient MLK quotes republicans and 'moderate' Democrats won't be tweeting out

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Also today in inconvenient MLK quotes that Republicans and conservative Democrats won’t be tweeting out… #VotingRightsForMLK






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The filibuster that almost killed the Civil Rights Act
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-filibuster-that-almost-killed-the-civil-rights-act/
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Inconvenient MLK quotes republicans and 'moderate' Democrats won't be tweeting out (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2022 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2022 #1
It's the Democratic Party, crickets Jan 2022 #2
not sure what you're referring to bigtree Jan 2022 #10
Oh, I was grousing at the video. crickets Jan 2022 #11
I didn't think that bigtree Jan 2022 #12
Do you think that moderate Democrats are racists? comradebillyboy Jan 2022 #3
"I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #4
Good, try getting anything done without moderates. comradebillyboy Jan 2022 #7
King was describing actual self-identified 'moderates' standing in the way of civil rights bills bigtree Jan 2022 #9
I don't think that word is necessary to describe obstruction of voting rights legislation bigtree Jan 2022 #8
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2022 #5
That clip should be run on national TV Bayard Jan 2022 #6
K&R UCmeNdc Jan 2022 #13
The more things change... moondust Jan 2022 #14
it seems prescient, moondust bigtree Jan 2022 #15

crickets

(25,969 posts)
11. Oh, I was grousing at the video.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 04:01 PM
Jan 2022

The "Democrat Senators" thing showed up at least twice that I noticed, which surprised me given the subject. The video itself was excellent otherwise. Nothing aimed at you or the OP at all. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,331 posts)
4. "I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jan 2022
stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice.”

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
7. Good, try getting anything done without moderates.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jan 2022

The civil rights legislation was passed by moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans. Out of context quotes from 60 years ago being used to unfairly smear a great swath of Democratic Party voters and elected officials does a disservice to us all. Moderates are still a big majority of all Democrats and shitting on them is not a winning strategy for the left.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
9. King was describing actual self-identified 'moderates' standing in the way of civil rights bills
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jan 2022

...that's not 'shitting' on them, it's calling them out for bad behavior.

Similarly, Manchin and Sinema, self-described 'moderates,' are standing in the way of the rest of the Democrats in the Senate, often describing their obstruction as moderation or a bid for bipartisanship.

It's not 'shitting' on them to strongly object to that obstruction and relate those objections to the very ideology 'moderates' themselves expouse as they block 98% of Senate Democrats from proceeding to voting rights legislation.

Don't 'moderates' have any use for 98% of their own party members?

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
8. I don't think that word is necessary to describe obstruction of voting rights legislation
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jan 2022

...I think there's enough wrong, just on the face of the obstruction, without having to define motives which are so often concealed in politics.

Here's the quote:

“We have a…Senate that has a minority of misguided senators who will use the filibuster to keep the majority of people from even voting. They won’t let the majority of senators vote. And certainly they wouldn’t want the majority of people to vote.”


I think the last sentence certainly describes republicans. They support policies and laws which restrict people from voting, most often targeting areas dominated by black voters.

Democrats who stand in the way of voting for addressing those abuses are preventing those mostly black voters from exercising their constitutional and natural right.

I don't need to define them as 'racist' to declare that wrong. Call it what you want, but address the actual circumstances of abuse. Labeling it doesn't solve or ameliorate it.

Moreover, I don't think the term is something to bat around like it's the real concern, especially neglecting to address the obstruction MLK so eloquently outlined in his remark.

I mean, ffs, MLK said MISGUIDED, not 'racist' like you suppose.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
15. it seems prescient, moondust
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 04:44 PM
Jan 2022

...because republicans (and the people who've gravitated to their party), have either opportunistically or lazily adopted the same defenses and attacks of the nation's segregationist past, based on the antipathy they feel toward people of color.

Defenses of natural rights as full citizens will always find universal truths to fall back on, but demagogues who resist them with an endless stream of nonsense can't replace those universal truths, only obscure them for a time.

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