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WarGamer

(12,442 posts)
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 02:35 PM Jan 2022

The other day read a thread where some people think that antisemitism is a 20th Century thing...

Here's my good deed for the day.

I urge people to read things like this... to educate yourself. Today we have someone babbling on about a Constitutional Convention having no clue how it works... smdh.

Remember, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be a good debater if you're clueless about the topic.

https://www.museumoftolerance.com/education/teacher-resources/holocaust-resources/antisemitism-a-historical-survey.html

The Museum of Tolerance is a priceless resource and I encourage all to use it.


Reader's Digest version:

Antisemitism has been a "thing" since AT LEAST the Greco-Roman era.

Antisemitism has been practiced and advocated by people of all colors and cultures.

Antisemitism has been very widespread geographically.

Roman times, Middle Ages, the Muslim era, Crusades and a number of purges from the 10th Century up into the 20th Century (all Jews expelled from England in 1290)... Jews even got caught up in the Spanish Inquisition!

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The other day read a thread where some people think that antisemitism is a 20th Century thing... (Original Post) WarGamer Jan 2022 OP
When I hear things like that I think of that idiot who thinks that Rome didn't exist JanMichael Jan 2022 #1
+1000 nt WarGamer Jan 2022 #2
K&R for visibility. crickets Jan 2022 #3
While I agree that antisemitism is as evil as most others do. TreasonousBastard Jan 2022 #4

JanMichael

(24,887 posts)
1. When I hear things like that I think of that idiot who thinks that Rome didn't exist
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jan 2022

To think that anti-Semitism, or simply hating Jews, is only a 20th century thing is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Pograms existed just about everywhere in Europe including Russia prior to the Soviet Union.

Kind of like how most people don't really know about what happened in Kansas in the 10 years to the run up to the Civil War. That was a mini Civil War in one state cause primarily by Missouri which was next door.

Edit: to show how stupid 21st century technology when it comes to history is voice to text did not catch pogram and wrote program. Yes I have a easy to understand Midwestern accent and voice to text picks up almost everything from me. Program. Not Program.... S*** it did it again.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. While I agree that antisemitism is as evil as most others do.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:43 PM
Jan 2022

I don't see any decent reason to separate it into its own category. It is a version of bigotry applied to Semites, if even everyone could agree what a Semite is.

Personally, i believe bigotry and tribalism are basic human failings that to some extent affect us all. They are something we have little interest in growng out of. Perhaps a few more milennia would help.

Regardless, we haven't grown out of it yet, so I hesitate to imply that one fom of racism is worse than another. The introduction listed gives a good summary but doesn't stray far from its concept that antisemitism was any worse than any other massacres and hatreds such as the Turks and Armenians.

Ivan the Terrible and Stalin would be good studies, but any awards would have to go to Asia. We all pretty much know about the Khans and their attempts to own Europe and the Middle East, but the honors go to China which had at last count 10 rebellions which had at least 500,000 killed, many over 10 million, and many go over 100 million. If their technology were any better, I havt little doubt that empires like Zulu and Aztec could have done them better.

I don't doubt that the Holocaust had quite a bit to do with the current round of dovish talk, but that's just a found of talk, with the guns tending to have the final say.

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