Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel is on Nicole Wallace -updated

[malaise]

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Says one of the ReTHUGs who was a fraudulent elector said the document came fromt the Slobfather's campaign. She thinks the Feds should charge them but won't rule out state charges. Oh My!! The party's over.

Watch the criminals try to break in - got the link from a great DUer

[shelshaw]

1. Just arrest the fuckers already

Jeez

[Poiuyt]

2. I know, right?

[shelshaw]

3. I'm very confused about the delay here

[L. Coyote]

9. First, build an air-tight case and investigate how far the crime reaches because

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once you indict you have to show the criminals all the evidence you have.

Do you want the organizers to get off because prosecutors showed their hand too early. Do you play poker with your cards showing?

[Cha]

38. Exactly! Geesh! It's not brain

surgery.

[GB_RN]

35. If I'm Not Mistaken...

This was all referred to the 1/6 Committee as well as the Feds. They wanted an airtight investigation and all the fact straight before 1) making it known that it had been referred and 2) the Feds will want to make sure all the ducks are in a row before they present to a grand jury.

Maybe I'm stating the obvious with the following, and if I am, forgive me, but we forget that the legal system moves slower than what we'd like - for a lot of reasons. So here it is, from lawyer friends of mine: It's often said that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich if they want, but a good prosecutor won't go to a grand jury unless they're confident they can actually get a conviction. "Confident" usually meaning, they feel it's a slam dunk: No prosecutor wants to take a case to court and spend a lot of time on it, just to have it end up as an acquittal.

[Kid Berwyn]

4. Nessel is the real deal.

Michigan Is Calling on the Feds to Investigate Trumpers Who Sent Forged Election Documents

“Obviously this is part of a much bigger conspiracy,” Michigan AG Dana Nessel told MSNBC

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-fake-election-documents-michigan-dana-nessel-1284781/

[kentuck]

5. If there had not been a large number of state police there...?

They may have tried to force their way into the building?

[ShazzieB]

14. Sure sounds like it.

They obviously wanted to get in there really bad.

[riversedge]

6. Well, I will believe the party's over for Trump when I see him indicted-but this is good news

Thanks

[FakeNoose]

7. Giuliani and the Kraken Lady were all over this

They probably created the fake documents and emailed them.

Lock them all up!

[jmowreader]

13. That may be the reason Trump "fired" Giuliani and the Kraken Lady

You know, to put a little breathing room between him and them after they did this.

[Nevilledog]

30. I'm betting on Clark, Meadows, and Stephen Miller being involved.

[crickets]

41. +1

[DLCWIdem]

8. I missed most of it

Got a link by any chance

[malaise]

10. Someone will post a link before long

from the Twitter feed - she was good and so was Charlies Pierce

[Rhiannon12866]

12. She was also on with Morning Joe and Rachel Maddow, she is determined!

'Part Of A Much Larger Conspiracy': Investigation Into 16 Michigan Republicans - Morning Joe - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017705964

Michigan Attorney General Refers Probe Of Fake Electors To Federal Prosecutors - Rachel Maddow
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017705315

[malaise]

18. Thanks

[Icanthinkformyself]

15. The Michigan group

are just one of the states that used the same form. It is an obvious and apparent coordination of effort. In that it is criminal in nature, a felony, it's a conspiracy, in this case to defraud the US government and interfere with the peaceful transfer of power. Michigan can't prosecute the other state's actors. Only the feds can wrap it all together. Keeping in mind that this just a small, but significant, part of a much bigger and far wider conspiracy, patience is warranted. The conspiracy charges against the Oath Keepers is just the tip of the iceberg.

[L. Coyote]

16. Michigan Hearings Cold Open - SNL

[malaise]

20. SNL video rarely works overseas

[George II]

17. She's quite a tough, fearless woman.

[L. Coyote]

21. Rudy was the one organizing the forgeries according to conspirators.

Jan. 6 panel ramps up investigation into Trump's state-level pressure

......... The voluminous documents state election officials have sent the Jan. 6 committee, obtained by POLITICO through open records requests, underscore the depth of Trump's pressure campaign directed at the typically lower-level administrators of presidential balloting. The emails, texts and phone recordings also add consequential context to previously reported incidents, such as Trump’s call to Georgia's top elections investigator and Mark Meadows’ outreach to Georgia election officials.

.........

The National Archives sent emails to the Arizona secretary of state on Dec. 11, 2020, passing along the forged certificates “for your awareness” and informing the state officials the Archives would not accept them.

Arizona then took legal action against at least one of the groups who sent in the fake documents ....

That group’s leader, Lori Osiecki ... decided to send in the certificates after taking part in post-election rallies and after attending a daylong meeting in Phoenix that had included Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. ...........

[malaise]

28. What was Eastman's role in this part of the coup plan?

[L. Coyote]

32. Eastman's memo planned on Pence declaring election results disputed in key states.

Rudy seems to have been doing the legwork to obtain the forgeries and fake electors. Some of the electors on the ballot refused and they had to bring in substitutes. Those people might make the best witnesses about who was pressuring electors.

And #FailedCoupGuy was trying to install a personal attorney, Clark Eastman, as Attorney General. They were all in on it!

Link to tweet

Add an extra three years:

18 U.S. Code § 4 - Misprision of felony

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

[malaise]

34. Lock them all up

[PurgedVoter]

22. Someone had just gotten moved from the "Wish them well" to the "Never met them" pile.

Eventually someone is going to get the number of that bus. It is pretty clear right now who all the trails of bloody bus tire treads lead back to.

If you look at it, we have motive, confession, bodies and weapons. There isn't even reasonable doubt at this point. As long as we eliminate potential jurors who think beloved liberals are going to come back to life as rabid conservatives and perform a concert for Trump, the conviction is almost certain.

[Nevilledog]

31. And some are in the quid pro quo stage

Link to tweet

Tweet text:

Mystery Solvent
@MysterySolvent
Trump is sending money to Meshawn Maddock and her husband, state rep, Matt Maddock. Meshawn is the MI GOP co-chair and one of the fake Republican electors who forged the election documents.

[OMGWTF]

23. The J6 hearings will be televised in prime time.

From what I've read, they'll start in late March or early April. We ended the Vietnam war when it came into peoples' living rooms; maybe we can end the Rethuglican party by bringing this treasonous criminal enterprise to light, too.

[malaise]

25. I can't wait

Shit is getting real

[Chicago1980]

26. I'm betting there will be awesome clips that'll be used for campaign ads.

This is where the democrats should take their gloves off.

[moonscape]

46. Too bad in 2022 there won't be the

captive audience there was in 1973. We need the country paying attention in the way we did then but far tougher to get the audience.

[Chicago1980]

24. The party is just beginning.....

Grab your popcorn.

[malaise]

27. But the Slobfather's party is over

Hehehehehehhe

[Chicago1980]

29. Never underestimate that slimy bastard.

He's managed for 74 years to be a shystie and evasive from real fault or prosecution.

[EleanorR]

33. Interesting quote from fake WI elector

“As an elector I only performed ministerial duties for the Republican Party of Wisconsin and Trump campaign,” fumed Spindell. “I sat there and signed papers as they were passed from person to person. [It was my] first time as an elector that I participated in this function of signing documents.” He added that he was told it was mandatory and necessary according to the Trump and RPW legal opinions in order to preserve Trump’s legal position.

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2022/01/14/will-false-trump-electors-attempt-to-hijack-the-wisconsin-vote-be-punished/

[malaise]

36. You mean he didn't know that the winning candidate's slate of electors

is the only one that is legal.

[EleanorR]

37. Oh he knew, but he also just implicated the trump campaign

They conspired with the trump campaign to submit fraudulent documents.

[malaise]

40. Lock them all up

[panader0]

42. K and R

[DLCWIdem]

43. This clip is from Morning Joe

Does anyone have the clip from Nicole Wallace.. The reason why is she had some original questions for her guests which I missed and wanted to hear.

[Moosepoop]

44. Here's the clip with Nicole

[malaise]

45. Thanks