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hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 07:57 AM Jan 2022

TMZ reporting Meatloaf died of COVID and railed against Aussie vaxx mandates...

As stated earlier, I know he turned into a looney and a Trumpster later in life but I celebrate his early career when his musical theatrical talents were matched by no one.

just now
TMZ reports that Meat Loaf died from Covid

According to US news website TMZ the star had fallen 'seriously ill' with Covid.

TMZ reports, "Sources with knowledge tell TMZ ... he was supposed to attend a business dinner earlier this week for a show he's working on -- "I'd Do Anything for Love" -- but the dinner was canceled because he became seriously ill with COVID."

According to TMZ he was "outspoken about COVID, railing with folks in Australia recently about vaccine mandates."

It is not known whether Meat Loaf was vaccinated.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/21/meat-loaf-dead-dies-singer/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/17394582/meatloaf-died-death-singer-dead-bat-out-hell-cause/
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TMZ reporting Meatloaf died of COVID and railed against Aussie vaxx mandates... (Original Post) hlthe2b Jan 2022 OP
He was a Trumper for sure. underpants Jan 2022 #1
He also voted for tfg. SouthernIrish Jan 2022 #2
Matched by no one?????? USALiberal Jan 2022 #3
Yeah, I caught that, too PJMcK Jan 2022 #6
There was actually a big scandal ... NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #11
100 million is a big number PJMcK Jan 2022 #14
That was "the catch". NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #27
+1 llmart Jan 2022 #9
This. AngryOldDem Jan 2022 #19
I like him in Rocky Horror Picture Show WA-03 Democrat Jan 2022 #31
Haw! FSogol Jan 2022 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jan 2022 #4
Well I'll BE A BAT OUT OF HELL another suicide for Trump. Emile Jan 2022 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2022 #32
So, he would do anything for love but he wont do NightWatcher Jan 2022 #7
Talents matched by no one? EYESORE 9001 Jan 2022 #8
theatricality in his genre during that time period. Vent all you want. I have to treat these people hlthe2b Jan 2022 #13
It's not "hate" to disagree that he was "matched by no one." yardwork Jan 2022 #17
I'm referring to the thread comments. hlthe2b Jan 2022 #25
Believe it or not, someone told me no one here ever wished harm on trumpers or the unvaxxed. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #44
Maybe you responded to the wrong poster? yardwork Jan 2022 #51
No. I answered their comment about their disagreement re: any talent on part of the deceased hlthe2b Jan 2022 #53
Disagreement is not 'venting' EYESORE 9001 Jan 2022 #21
referring to the thread comments, the worst which was (thankfully) self-deleted. hlthe2b Jan 2022 #26
Someone should check on Ted Nugent Clash City Rocker Jan 2022 #10
Lol, I was just thinking how I was never a fan of Meatloaf, but had the bad taste of liking BoomaofBandM Jan 2022 #38
He would do anything for love but he won't do Vac. sky_masterson Jan 2022 #12
CNN reports that he died from unknown causes with his family with him. Another one bites the dust. LiberalArkie Jan 2022 #15
All networks did initially. Whether TMZ is right or not will be seen, but they often have been hlthe2b Jan 2022 #16
Sad Johnny2X2X Jan 2022 #18
I've noticed that too. If they were rational thinkers they would already be vaxxed, though. yardwork Jan 2022 #20
I think it's martyrdom, too. AngryOldDem Jan 2022 #30
If he died from covid then he's a pos on top of being a right-winger. rockfordfile Jan 2022 #22
Soon the world will be filled with people who have smooth butts Generic Brad Jan 2022 #24
Cold Meatloaf. nt texasfiddler Jan 2022 #23
Revenge is best served cold. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #34
These are such needless deaths. AngryOldDem Jan 2022 #28
He was in the high risk category with his weight, and recall seeing a picture of him JohnSJ Jan 2022 #29
"It is not known whether Meat Loaf was vaccinated." lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #33
Damn there sure ForgedCrank Jan 2022 #35
So talented... jcgoldie Jan 2022 #36
Meatloaf: A name and an epitaph. Baitball Blogger Jan 2022 #39
Not to mention... jcgoldie Jan 2022 #40
I was in high school when he became big (no pun intended) Ishoutandscream2 Jan 2022 #41
Too bad I enjoyed his music sarisataka Jan 2022 #42
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #43
I don't know about anybody else, but I feel owned. shrike3 Jan 2022 #45
I liked his songs jmowreader Jan 2022 #46
RIP RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2022 #47
killed him in a week bigtree Jan 2022 #48
I knew he was a Republican long time ago Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2022 #49
I enjoyed his music mvd Jan 2022 #50
Not on Sorry Anti-Vaxxer Yet Deep State Witch Jan 2022 #52
Here you go Clash City Rocker Jan 2022 #54
He was a Texan, so more than likely he was in the right wings media cult bubble. Mr. Sparkle Jan 2022 #55

SouthernIrish

(512 posts)
2. He also voted for tfg.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:04 AM
Jan 2022

He said that Greta Thornburg was brainwashed. I'll not be sending thoughts and prayers to anyone that is anti vaccine.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
6. Yeah, I caught that, too
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:16 AM
Jan 2022

Meat Loaf had tremendous success selling 100 million records worldwide. That’s impressive.

Still, there are plenty of musicians and singers who are better at their crafts.

“Matched by no one” indeed.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
11. There was actually a big scandal ...
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jan 2022

... involving bogus "Bat Out of Hell" sales. I was a writer for a music biz magazine at the time - it was pretty ugly.

I'm not saying that ML didn't legitimately sell millions of albums, but there were some rather huge discrepancies when the numbers were crunched on that particular LP.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
14. 100 million is a big number
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:10 AM
Jan 2022

In pre-digital times, that could mean Meat Loaf earned tens of millions of dollars in royalties. That’s a lot of money and I’m not surprised to read that the sales figures were sketchy.

Of course, the music business has never fudged earnings nor royalties, (snark).

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
27. That was "the catch".
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:03 AM
Jan 2022

CBS Canada was claiming to have sold millions of albums, which I wrote about. I was then contacted by the organization that oversees the disbursement of publishing royalties - who wanted to know why the songwriters had not been paid what they were entitled to based on that number of sales.

They were very confrontational - wanted to know what the source of my article was. So I referred them back to CBS. By then, all "hell" was breaking loose - and investigations were underway.

I should point out that CBS Canada as a label had nothing to do with the wonky numbers - one of their top execs had acted on his own, and had literally scammed his entire branch into believing that the sales were legit.

Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Response to Emile (Reply #5)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. So, he would do anything for love but he wont do
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:20 AM
Jan 2022

a vaccine that had been proven safe and effective to prevent death from covid. His anti-covid speak and his pro trump-ness has cost him his life.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
13. theatricality in his genre during that time period. Vent all you want. I have to treat these people
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:07 AM
Jan 2022

(anti-vaxxers/ rabid COVID deniers) every day and I can not give into hate.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
17. It's not "hate" to disagree that he was "matched by no one."
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jan 2022

I think you're mixing up two things here. Disagreeing that Meat Loaf's artistic talent wasn't better than that of any other artist isn't the same as hating him.

Personally, I think Meat Loaf's songs were fun and catchy. I enjoyed his over the top performance style when I heard it on the radio or at a party, but I never bought any of his records and can't imagine sitting down to listen to an entire album at once. There are literally hundreds of artists whose music I prefer. That's not "hating" on Meat Loaf. I honor your opinion and choice. We just disagree.

It's too bad he became a Trumper and chose to be against the Covid vaccine. Sounds like he might have died of Covid. That's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that he may have influenced others against the vaccine. My saying that isn't "hate" either.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
25. I'm referring to the thread comments.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jan 2022

The worst, I note has been self-deleted. Glad you missed it.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
44. Believe it or not, someone told me no one here ever wished harm on trumpers or the unvaxxed.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 11:44 AM
Jan 2022

Smh.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
51. Maybe you responded to the wrong poster?
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:26 PM
Jan 2022

You didn't respond to your OP. You responded to a particular post and accused them of venting and hating. All they had posted was a mild disagreement with your assessment of Mr. Loaf's artistic greatness.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
53. No. I answered their comment about their disagreement re: any talent on part of the deceased
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jan 2022

and then I addressed the wider issue of the comments on the thread. As one does. I then clarified for the poster directly as to who I was discussing in terms of the other issues. Not looking for an argument. I have to deal with these people 7 days a week and in fact, just got off a shift where I was repeatedly cussed out trying to treat COVID patients and am heading to bed. (and no, I didn't respond back negatively at all. If I can do so--put aside my anger and resentment-- so too can others).

Have a nice evening.

Clash City Rocker

(3,398 posts)
10. Someone should check on Ted Nugent
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:52 AM
Jan 2022

He’s in his seventies, and has a history of Cat Scratch Fever. He’s clearly high risk.

BoomaofBandM

(1,772 posts)
38. Lol, I was just thinking how I was never a fan of Meatloaf, but had the bad taste of liking
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jan 2022

Ted Nugent. It was only for a short time, and it was my experimental drug use time of my life. So who am I to judge.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
16. All networks did initially. Whether TMZ is right or not will be seen, but they often have been
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:27 AM
Jan 2022

for celebrity deaths in the past and the reporting is linked. Not that that's an endorsement, mind you, but they do have their connections, abysmal as they might be.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
18. Sad
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:41 AM
Jan 2022

Totally preventable death, but he couldn't see past his own BS to see the truth and now he's dead for his lunacy.

The problem with the anti vaxxers is they're so wrapped up in themselves that they're incapable of learning through the mistakes of others. I used to think that, "well at least others will learn from this death", but they don't learn, they are not capable of learning until it happens to them. So instead of some Meatloaf fans saying to themselves, "oh man, I better get vaccinated", they'll just make excuses of it wasn't Covid really and he had comorbidities obviously. Very few if any people will get vaxxed because of this death, because the people resisting a safe and effective vaccine are too self centered.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
20. I've noticed that too. If they were rational thinkers they would already be vaxxed, though.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jan 2022

It's not really surprising, on reflection. Irrational choices beget more irrational choices. It's rare for people to change very much. Most of us continue about the same as we are.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
30. I think it's martyrdom, too.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jan 2022

Yes, you’d think they’d learn by example. But, they see people like Meat Loaf as those who stood their ground against the government, Dems, Biden, the libs, health experts, and science, and they put that tool Dr. Fauci in his place, to boot. NOBODY is telling them what to do, dammit.

Now they’re pushing up daisies, or taking up space in hospitals, just one more lost statistic.

Good job, covidiots.

(Oh, one more thing…some of these people — lawmakers — scream “bodily autonomy” and not being told what to do with one’s body. Then these same people turn around and dictate women’s health issues. They either can’t see or won’t see the disconnect and hypocrisy.)

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
22. If he died from covid then he's a pos on top of being a right-winger.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jan 2022

Really complaining about vaccine mandates so you can spread a deadly virus to killed other people.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
24. Soon the world will be filled with people who have smooth butts
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jan 2022

All the assholes are removing themselves

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
28. These are such needless deaths.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:03 AM
Jan 2022

I can’t understand those who refuse to get a shot that can save their life because…. (fill in the blank with whatever idiotic reason).

They’d rather go to the grave by trying to make some nonsense “point.”

(Disclaimer, before I get jumped on for “grave dancing”. I do recognize the difference between outright refusal to get a shot, and not being able to get one for a valid reason, or get the shots and get sick anyway. My beef is with those who take pride in their ignorance.)

JohnSJ

(92,394 posts)
29. He was in the high risk category with his weight, and recall seeing a picture of him
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jan 2022

using an oxygen mask during a concert years ago, which I suspect implies he may have asthma

That he would be part of a protest against vaccine mandates is obscene






lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. "It is not known whether Meat Loaf was vaccinated."
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jan 2022

Given his rants, and his cause of death...

That's a big "NO".

ForgedCrank

(1,782 posts)
35. Damn there sure
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jan 2022

are some ugly and hateful comments in this thread.
I was never a Meatloaf fan, I especially hated that long dashboard light song. But, a lot more people did like his stuff than otherwise. He was an icon of the era, and his passing is yet another sad marker.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,663 posts)
41. I was in high school when he became big (no pun intended)
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 11:15 AM
Jan 2022

Never, ever understood his appeal! As a matter of fact, I found him downright awful. I guess I'm glad I wasn't a fan, because it's easier to give no fucks to a dumbass who denied the effectiveness of the vaccine and apparently chose not to take it. Give my worst to Herman Cain!

shrike3

(3,783 posts)
45. I don't know about anybody else, but I feel owned.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 11:56 AM
Jan 2022

Meatloaf was a part of my youth, and I loved his music. It's a shame he made such a poor choice. I know everyone dies, but from what I've heard, Covid is one hell of a way to die.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
46. I liked his songs
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:04 PM
Jan 2022

The Samuel L Jackson movie “Formula 51” cast him as the main villain, and he was good in that. (Well, as good as anyone needs to be in an early Sam Jackson B flick.)

However, this death isn’t a shock. We all knew he was a right winger. Being antivax just goes with the territory.

mvd

(65,180 posts)
50. I enjoyed his music
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jan 2022

Sorry to hear this. His politics haven’t been good for a while and he was stupid not to take precautions.

Deep State Witch

(10,457 posts)
52. Not on Sorry Anti-Vaxxer Yet
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jan 2022

I guess they're waiting for it to be confirmed by a reputable news source (not TMZ) as COVID.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,947 posts)
55. He was a Texan, so more than likely he was in the right wings media cult bubble.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 08:47 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Thu Jan 27, 2022, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

They should be held accountable for their crimes and the 100,000s of people who needlessly died believing their dangerous propaganda.

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