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marmar

(77,114 posts)
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 01:09 PM Jan 2022

'The walls are closing in': Trump reels from week of political setbacks


(Guardian UK) The last time Donald Trump heard such hammer blows, they were from renovations at Mar-a-Lago that displeased the former president. But not even that sound would have left his ears ringing like last week’s avalanche of bad news that some believe nudged a criminal indictment one step closer.

No single week in the year since Trump left the White House has been as dramatic, or for him as potentially catastrophic, as the one just passed.

It included a rebuke from the supreme court over documents related to the 6 January insurrection which Trump incited; news that the congressional committee investigating the riot was closing in on Trump’s inner circle; evidence from New York’s attorney general of alleged tax fraud; and, perhaps most damaging of all, a request from a Georgia prosecutor for a grand jury in her investigation of Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election.

The week ended with the leaking of a document showing that Trump at least pondered harnessing the military in his attempts to overturn Joe Biden’s victory.

It all left the former president with plenty to ponder.

“He’s Teflon Don, he said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and survive it, his supporters are going to support him no matter what, but I’m starting to think more and more that the walls are closing in on this guy,” said Kimberly Wehle, a respected legal analyst and professor of law at the University of Baltimore. ..............(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/22/the-walls-are-closing-in-trump-reels-from-week-of-political-setbacks




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'The walls are closing in': Trump reels from week of political setbacks (Original Post) marmar Jan 2022 OP
Yes empedocles Jan 2022 #1
And it's only gonna get worse. padah513 Jan 2022 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2022 #3
I would love to see him living in poverty and disgrace PatSeg Jan 2022 #8
That's too much to hope for. SergeStorms Jan 2022 #13
We can always dream PatSeg Jan 2022 #23
Barely making rent in a run down studio apartment on the edge of town. tinrobot Jan 2022 #21
Sounds perfect, doesn't it? PatSeg Jan 2022 #24
No TV. No phone. No Internet MurrayDelph Jan 2022 #25
Hah! Sounds like a Roger Miller song PatSeg Jan 2022 #33
id rather see him in prison orange or classic stripes . AllaN01Bear Jan 2022 #29
Yes. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #30
Okay, except for the rapid decline in health part. jaxexpat Jan 2022 #31
Yes, I'm torn on that one PatSeg Jan 2022 #34
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2022 #22
I love to think that he may be miserable and stressed pandr32 Jan 2022 #4
For a group of people so concerned about an anti-Christ in our midst Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #5
White evangelicals traded their religious principles for political power long ago. Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #10
+100,000,000 SergeStorms Jan 2022 #15
I'll add my +1 to SergeStorms. I've known/married-to evangelicals. They ain't saints erronis Jan 2022 #16
Call me Rip Van Winkle Quemado Jan 2022 #6
It takes time to build a case. And you have to weigh the real possibility that no jury will convict Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #11
Same ole excuses. Solomon Jan 2022 #18
A DC or Manhattan jury Elessar Zappa Jan 2022 #28
I'm with you. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2022 #14
Our best chance of locking him up is with New York jmowreader Jan 2022 #19
Good. The FRAUD is being exposed ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2022 #7
Hope they can also nail Lindsey Graham in that GA grand jury. paleotn Jan 2022 #9
Let the walls crush the SOB like they did to that Capitol Police Officer. And his whole cabal. Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #12
Teflon is Toxic. Cha Jan 2022 #20
Republican media focus: Biden's bad week. 🙄 live love laugh Jan 2022 #26
I usually feel bad for people in trouble. There but for the grace of, Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2022 #27
Donald Trump will never spend a single day in jail Johnny2X2X Jan 2022 #32
Soon ... BlueWavePsych Jan 2022 #35

padah513

(2,512 posts)
2. And it's only gonna get worse.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jan 2022

Long overdue if you ask me. He damn near did irreparable harm to the country and we'll be living in his mess for years to come

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PatSeg

(47,725 posts)
8. I would love to see him living in poverty and disgrace
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jan 2022

with his health declining rapidly. No friends, no family, and no sycophants anymore and perhaps surrounded by all the minorities that he looked down on his entire life. And divine justice would be for him to live that way for many, many years.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
13. That's too much to hope for.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 03:27 PM
Jan 2022

Although I totally agree with your wishes, bankruptcy laws protect the wealthy much better than the average citizen of the U.S. He'll never be living in a refrigerator box, wearing rags, and dining from garbage cans.

Right now I'd settle for any sentence that confined him to a low-medium security prison, with absolutely no contact with anyone except legal and immediate family. He'll never have to do hard time, unfortunately.

There is no true justice for someone like him.

PatSeg

(47,725 posts)
23. We can always dream
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 06:25 PM
Jan 2022

I agree about no contact with anyone except lawyers and family. No press whatsoever. Meanwhile, his family could abandon him, if he has nothing left to offer them.

I still think it is possible he could end up with close to nothing and even if he had a relatively decent place to live, for him it would feel like dire poverty to him.

tinrobot

(10,927 posts)
21. Barely making rent in a run down studio apartment on the edge of town.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jan 2022

All of his income garnished to pay back the people he harmed.

No cable TV, just over-the-air watched on a crappy TV pulled from a dumpster.

And not enough money to afford Big Macs for dinner.

PatSeg

(47,725 posts)
24. Sounds perfect, doesn't it?
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 06:31 PM
Jan 2022

I say he should have cable TV though, so he can sit there flipping channels desperately in the hope to hear his name or see his face again. Let him watch the world pass him by as if he'd never existed. I'd let him have his Big Macs and Diet Coke and maybe some Little Debbie cakes.

Just imagine what that mop of hair will look like after awhile.

jaxexpat

(6,871 posts)
31. Okay, except for the rapid decline in health part.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jan 2022

I'd much prefer he lay in poverty and his own waste as he contemplates, for years, the fact that no one visits him, ever.

PatSeg

(47,725 posts)
34. Yes, I'm torn on that one
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jan 2022

As I really do want him to live as long as possible in the misery he has created himself. Of course, his health could decline, but not enough to kill him, just enough to make his suffering more acute.

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Mr. Ected

(9,675 posts)
5. For a group of people so concerned about an anti-Christ in our midst
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 01:45 PM
Jan 2022

The evangelicals sure whiffed on catching this one.

You take very possibly the most evil, least Christ-like man on the planet and allow him to steal the most powerful job in the world, and support him even though it's a 180 degree departure from reality...sorry....you're not Christians, you're fascists, and your gifts of discernment are pathetic and dangerous.

Lonestarblue

(10,148 posts)
10. White evangelicals traded their religious principles for political power long ago.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 02:52 PM
Jan 2022

Think about all the wing nuts who pushed their religious agenda because it made them rich: Pat Robertson, Jim and Tammy Baker, Jerry Falwell Jr., etc. Right-wing Christian propagandists helped perpetuate the myth that religious persecution was happening in the US. Their hypocrisy has contributed to the lack of respect many people have for white evangelicals today, as they exhibit little more than hatred for their fellow man.

erronis

(15,448 posts)
16. I'll add my +1 to SergeStorms. I've known/married-to evangelicals. They ain't saints
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 03:49 PM
Jan 2022

In fact they are usually the definition of sinners. And revel in their position. All their words and actions are just hokey-pokey - stuff to fool the rest of the dupes (the ones that tithe and sit in the pews.)

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
6. Call me Rip Van Winkle
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jan 2022

I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but, despite all these stories we've heard over the past several years, Trump has never been indicted.

I've been a Democrat all my life. I would love to see Trump get indicted. The problem is: it hasn't happened.

I know some of his alleged crimes are complex issues that are defensible and would raise reasonable doubt. And, all it would take is one member of a jury refusing to vote guilty to prevent a conviction.

I don't keep a tally of all of his alleged crimes. But surely, there has to be at least one that stands a good chance of conviction.

So, why hasn't he been indicted?

Call me Rip Van Winkle. Wake me up when he's been indicted.

Demsrule86

(68,772 posts)
11. It takes time to build a case. And you have to weigh the real possibility that no jury will convict
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 02:57 PM
Jan 2022

Trump. And it would be beyond horrible if he was acquitted.

Elessar Zappa

(14,125 posts)
28. A DC or Manhattan jury
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jan 2022

would have a high chance of conviction. Only 5% of DCers voted for Trump and 14% of Manhattanites.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,926 posts)
14. I'm with you.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 03:29 PM
Jan 2022

All of this is meaningless until he's indicted, arrested, brought to trial, convicted, and sent to prison. Until then, well Happy Fitzmas to us all.

jmowreader

(50,583 posts)
19. Our best chance of locking him up is with New York
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jan 2022

He’s committed a lot of financial crimes in NYC, and no one outside Staten Island likes him there.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,773 posts)
27. I usually feel bad for people in trouble. There but for the grace of,
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:41 PM
Jan 2022

well, I'm not religious, but let's say fate. However, for a mean, mendacious, traitorous, belligerently ignorant crook like TFG to feel the walls closing in and fear for his freedom, or at least his fortune, I just cannot summon any sympathy.

Lock him up!
, too.

Johnny2X2X

(19,253 posts)
32. Donald Trump will never spend a single day in jail
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jan 2022

Day after day here and thread after thread for 5+ years now people have been waiting for Trump to face real consequences, they haven't and won't be coming.

It doesn't mean we shouldn't keep pursuing justice, but Dems need to concentrate on the political now and doing whatever it takes to avoid a blowout in November.

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