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iemanja

(53,032 posts)
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:54 PM Jan 2022

University of Minnesota ivermectin trial nearing completion

University of Minnesota researchers expect to finish enrollment this week in the nation's first clinical trial of ivermectin to treat COVID-19, meaning that the study's highly anticipated results are a few weeks away.

The COVID-OUT study is reviewing combinations of three common drugs, including the antidepressant fluvoxamine and the diabetes treatment metformin, but gained attention for its inclusion of the controversial ivermectin. . . .

"The aim of the study is to see if these medications make you feel better sooner and prevent hospitalization," said Dr. Rajesh Prabhu, an Essentia infectious disease specialist.

Bramante is not allowed to see the patient data from the U study until after enrollment is finished, but said it is a positive sign that a data safety monitoring board has allowed it to continue. That means the drugs aren't causing harm — which was expected because they are already used commonly for other purposes — but also there is no proof yet they absolutely work or don't work against COVID-19.

"The fact that is hasn't been stopped early is a good sign," Bramante said. "We might not ultimately have a statistically significant result or we might. We will know very soon."


https://www.startribune.com/university-of-minnesota-ivermectin-trial-nearing-completion/600139471/
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University of Minnesota ivermectin trial nearing completion (Original Post) iemanja Jan 2022 OP
I have an Ivermectin prescription. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #1
It will be interesting to see what the results of this study are iemanja Jan 2022 #2
I hope they'e double-blinding these studies to guard against false results due to abqtommy Jan 2022 #3
Of course iemanja Jan 2022 #4
THANK YOU. HUAJIAO Jan 2022 #6
sigh blogslug Jan 2022 #5
And if the study shows it DOES have a benefit......? HUAJIAO Jan 2022 #7
Apologize to all the people dead of Covid who treated themselves with Ivermectin Nevilledog Jan 2022 #8
the premise or research question isn't that it cures COVID iemanja Jan 2022 #13
People TAKING Ivermectin think it keeps them from catching it.... Nevilledog Jan 2022 #16
Well obviously iemanja Jan 2022 #18
I'm all for treatments that work blogslug Jan 2022 #9
I agree with you.... HUAJIAO Jan 2022 #21
then, basically, the gubmint's entire Covid response is invalidated. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #11
I'm rooting for whatever saves people from horrendous symptoms and death. HUAJIAO Jan 2022 #22
Any beneficial effect on COVID will be huge news. Marcuse Jan 2022 #10
Hope the researchers are prepared to be called Frauds /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #12
because you don't like the fact that they dared iemanja Jan 2022 #15
NO, because that's what MAGA will call them when they say ivermectin failed. bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #17
What if they discover that it DOES work to reduce symptoms and save people from death? HUAJIAO Jan 2022 #23
There actually has been one good ivermectin study that I read. Double blind, randomized etc. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #14
Ivermectin showed early promise Disaffected Jan 2022 #19
This study is redundant... lame54 Jan 2022 #20

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
1. I have an Ivermectin prescription.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:59 PM
Jan 2022

under the brand name Soolantra. it's topical. keeps my skin from reacting to little Demodex mites.

it has its uses, but it is not an antiviral.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. I hope they'e double-blinding these studies to guard against false results due to
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:02 PM
Jan 2022

The Placebo Effect, y'know, where something appears to work just because people want it
to. And no, I don't just expect everyone who does studies to do it right.

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
4. Of course
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jan 2022

The U of M is one of the country's leading medical research institutions. They receive hundreds of millions in federal grants. They know how to do a proper study.

blogslug

(38,000 posts)
5. sigh
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:10 PM
Jan 2022

I guess the point of this study is to create hard data about the (in)effectiveness of the drug for Covid. I'm just sad. Even if the data shows it has no benefit, the lunatics/grifters will just say the study is bogus.

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
13. the premise or research question isn't that it cures COVID
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:24 PM
Jan 2022

but whether it and the other two drugs delay hospitalization.

Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
16. People TAKING Ivermectin think it keeps them from catching it....
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jan 2022

And then when they catch it they think it'll keep them from dying.

blogslug

(38,000 posts)
9. I'm all for treatments that work
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:16 PM
Jan 2022

If that happens then, good. People should still get vaccinated and boosted. And until the world gets control of this plague, they should social-distance and mask up too.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
11. then, basically, the gubmint's entire Covid response is invalidated.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:17 PM
Jan 2022

hope you're not rooting for that outcome.

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
15. because you don't like the fact that they dared
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jan 2022

to research the question? So much for caring about science. UMN researchers are most certainly not frauds, but you seem furious that they have even investigated whether ivermectin and two other drugs delay symptoms and hospitalization.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
14. There actually has been one good ivermectin study that I read. Double blind, randomized etc.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:25 PM
Jan 2022

It showed that there was no statistical difference between ivermectin and placebo EXCEPT that of those in the study who ended up hospitalized, those taking ivermectin were sick enough to be hospitalized a few days sooner.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
19. Ivermectin showed early promise
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 07:55 PM
Jan 2022

with in vitro ("test tube" ) experiments in which Corona antiviral effectiveness was apparently observed (conducted at an Australian university IIRC). Trouble is, the concentrations of Ivermectin necessary for effective antiviral activity are far higher than could be tolerated by the body (one reason being that it tends to accumulate in and cause damage to the liver or kidneys rather than the lung tissue that Corona attacks).

One reason for these U or M trials may be to simply again demonstrate that Ivermectin is not useful for this application - sort of like the Laetrile trials that were conducted years ago to officially dissuade folks from taking the stuff in lieu of conventional cancer treatment (which was unfortunately quite common at the time at quack "cancer clinics" ).

Ivermectin - the new Laetrile...

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