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Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)MissMillie
(38,555 posts)(not that I deny anyone's right to use them, I just try not to use them myself)
but I don't think there's a better way to word this sentiment.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)As is all slang.
I always consider the source and use situational awareness before I make a judgement. What was unspoken in my time are now lyrics to Top 10 popular songs and no one thinks twice about saying them in public.
George Carlin's usage is 100% A-OK. TFG's is not.
The real evil words are those that promote bigotry, racism and hate with no other usage implied or meant.
MissMillie
(38,555 posts)when Billy Ray Junior is left behind w/ the Thayer's as his dad and Chelsea left for Europe. He said it was all "bullshit."
Norman says, "You like that word, 'bullshit,' don't you?"
Billy Jr responds a bit defiantly, "Yeah!"
Norman says, "It's a good word."
I won't say that I never cuss, but I usually keep it to my private life. It's just not the way I wish to present myself.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)In my 'real' life I am the same as you. Perhaps a bit more salty as I learned a few things some from my father, a WW2 era Marine NCO.
However my online persona, to make a point and for reasons of emphasis, for 'shock and awe' marketing value, and to appeal to younger types, is much much more vulgar. Purposely so.
I understand what you are saying and it is all good - not disagreeing at all.
czarjak
(11,269 posts)MissMillie
(38,555 posts)Opting for a different vocabulary is not necessarily a sign of approval.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 27, 2022, 07:23 PM - Edit history (1)
We can certainly see who the REAL "snowflakes" are, 'eh?
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)malaise
(268,972 posts)Rec
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Basically about these politicians wanting to introduce legislation that bans the teaching of history that makes people feel uncomfortable. Perhaps all the British-Americans should petition to ban the teaching of the war of American Independence. One: it wasn't that important (the French Revolution was arguably more important and American independence could be argued as being a prelude to the French Revolution), Two: it makes us Brits feel uncomfortable about waging a war against our own people.
Do I support this in practice? Nope. All history is to be taught. Makes one feel uncomfortable? Tough shit... Sometimes history is supposed to do just that, basically to ensure that mistakes aren't repeated. Holocaust absolutely has to be taught. It's supposed to make one feel uncomfortable... so the lesson learned is never never never never ever never ever do that kind of shit again. Rwanda didn't learn this lesson, that's why they had a genocide (and yes I'm being grossly simplistic). If guilt is the emotional response to the teaching of history then we have a bigger problem.
Sorry if this seems rambling; it probably is; I'm tired.
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)Don't sound rambling to me, I agree.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)Been a fan of Smirking Chimp since the days of Dubya
Lonestarblue
(9,981 posts)These standards are not new. They have often been overlooked for outside reading material, however, because the value of having students read specific books (like To Kill a Mockingbird) far outweighs the language issues. That said, I have often found that writers of works of fiction for the young adult market sometimes use obscenities gratuitously, as if its a way to make younger readers think the characters are hip when the story itself and the interactions of the characters are more important.
The use of obscenities sometimes helps define a character and create a context for the story, but gratuitous obscenities do nothing to teach students about the beauty of language and the ability to challenge the imagination and create mental images with words.