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(6,132 posts)Him or Sinema.
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)Lunabell
(6,132 posts)N/t
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)He's already in charge in a way.
Secondly, African-American's are expecting a black woman to be put onto the High Court like Biden promised, and IF that doesn't happen and a white woman or white male whose center right is put onto the high court like Manchin wants it, I can guarantee you Biden/Dems LOSE a LOT of the black vote.
I have posts on here saying that Manchin would do exactly what he's doing now--want a non-black, center right justice on the high court. Manchin probably wants a white male to be placed onto the court to HIS liking.
Tough choice ahead for Dems if they buckle to Manchin's whims.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)That alone should eliminate him from having any say in who Biden picks. Why should we have to give a shit what he thinks? He's little more than Moscow Mitch's enabler.
Lunabell
(6,132 posts)Shame on both him and Sinema.
OMGWTF
(3,981 posts)Like that sociopath,narcissist Ssrah Palin having covid and dining indoors at a restaurant in NYC. These people have zero integrity.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)is basically down to judges now.
If we can't count on them for that even...
Having said that, I don't see any reason to believe they won't continue to vote for judges.
JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)Biden's nominees in his first year
lame54
(35,341 posts)That Manchin and Sinema will fall in line
Oh those two!! Such scalliwags.
Bettie
(16,139 posts)oh...wait.
onecaliberal
(32,952 posts)Fuck the pretender.
PatSeg
(47,691 posts)All this media attention has gone to his head. If Manchin wants to run the show, he should run for President.
onecaliberal
(32,952 posts)Strip them of everything. Since were getting not a fucking thing POTUS ran on because paid off pretenders are blocking it all.
CrispyQ
(36,547 posts)Caliman73
(11,760 posts)Especially since 69% of the people polled in the state where Manchin is the Senator, support the policies described in the BBB legislation. Manchin is using right wing tactics at this point. He discusses vague "principles", uses delay tactics, and lies.
I know that we need Manchin to maintain a level of control over the Senate. I am not calling for him to switch parties or go away, or whatever. We do need to explore, if it is possible, to get someone to challenge Manchin for his seat in the next primary. That process does not have to be out in the open at this point, but we should definitely be studying.
Magoo48
(4,721 posts)If fact. Personally, every time Ive heard the word center for the last 20 years, I call it right-wing horseshit and gunsmoke.
Mad_Machine76
(24,450 posts)or in general?
Same old same old.
JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)liberal philosophy
Mad_Machine76
(24,450 posts)N/T
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)Your center is to the right of Atilla.
NewHendoLib
(60,029 posts)Lovie777
(12,385 posts)He truly feel the USA is center right, which is total bullshit.
samsingh
(17,602 posts)nuxvomica
(12,456 posts)He would just keep that steering wheel straight, even though the Maserati is heading toward a cliff on the right.
Uncle Joe
(58,483 posts)JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)said today that he would have no problem voting for Biden's SC nominee with a more liberal philosophy than his own.
but that I guess that doesn't mean anything according Reich
Uncle Joe
(58,483 posts)This isn't anything new.
JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)had a very liberal philosophy. There were 42 judicial appointments in Biden's first year.
I see Manchin and Sinema having no problem voting for whoever Biden picks. They haven't in the past
While it may not be anything new, Manchin made that statement TODAY
and what Reich is saying is NOT anything new either.
just something to try and stir people up
If people are not happy with the ideology of Manchin and Sinema, they should work to get more Democrats elected in the Senate in the midterms, which would make them irrelevant
Manchin and Sinema are NOT up for re-election in the midterms, so to achieve that goal need to look at states like Pennsylvania
Uncle Joe
(58,483 posts)When they stop in the name of "bi-partisanship" enabling a political party that tried to overthrow our government while tens of millions of Americans get left behind then things may get more mellow.
JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)in line with many of the issues of the Democrats in Congress.
With Manchin this has been known for a long time. He is in West Virgina where trump won the state by over 42%.
However, at this time Manchin and Sinema give us the majority, and that is a BIG DEAL.
It should be pretty obvious to most now that if we want to move things toward more progressive legislation, we need to win more seats in Congress. Going after Manchin and Sinema will accomplish zip. Winning at least a two seat majority in the Senate, and maintaining the majority in the House, will change everything
Uncle Joe
(58,483 posts)and many years to follow.
Anyone that believes government has a proactive role in promoting/building/supporting a public welfare or common good, automatically faces an uphill battle against corporate media propaganda that has played out for decades.
There are good, conscientious journalists employed by cable and network news but the industry business model; works against the idea of a common good and their reporting or lack thereof on so many critical issues affecting the average American only reinforces the status quo or so their ownership/upper management believe until a Trump comes along....or perhaps that's what they want?
Murdoch certainly did.
The corporate media make their money by selling and influencing, not educating or enlightening the people with a few rare exceptions AKA; plagues and such, while even this has gaps as in FOX etc.
With the corporate media it's almost always about the money and their money is made from the status quo, every public dollar that our Government invests in the people make stronger workers and can take away lucrative commercial dollars from, fossil fuels, big pharma, etc. so their surface interests are opposed.
So time is never on the side of progressive causes that believe our government has a fundamentally better role to play in the lives of the American People in perfect harmony with the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution.
JohnSJ
(92,488 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,112 posts)President Biden is already "centered". Go to HELL Manchin.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)This would be okay.
mjvpi
(1,394 posts)On a corporate level, since FDR.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)That way more people will realize what we are all dealing with.
aocommunalpunch
(4,247 posts)It makes understanding his voting so much easier.
Justice matters.
(6,952 posts)His own constituents want him to but he's bought and paid for by Big Coal.
Evolve Dammit
(16,793 posts)Emile
(23,072 posts)Boomerproud
(7,975 posts)during the confirmation process every dsy.
screamcheese
(76 posts)The extreme right and the extreme left have a lot in common in terms of zealousness, intransigence, weak mindedness, and violence. Liberal and conservative are center left and center right positions. True centrists are neither liberal nor conservative.
Fla Dem
(23,823 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)As soon as to trade your Maserati in on a Kia.
And we all witnessed the GQP move to the center when Drumpf, the one term president who was defeated in a landslide, was POTUS. Yeah, I remember the shit out of that. They went from right-wing asshats, directly to fascist fuckwits in the blink of an eye.
Some "moving to the center" like that, Mr. Manchin?
calimary
(81,558 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,437 posts)to please Manchin???