CARVILLE joins BEGALA defending MANCHIN

[UTUSN]

No link for BEGALA, heard him months ago on cable saying that MANCHIN is a real Dem.

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https://www.mediaite.com/politics/james-carville-goes-to-bat-for-manchin-people-btching-about-him-cant-see-political-reality/

James Carville Goes to Bat for Manchin: People ‘B*tching’ About Him Can’t See ‘Political Reality’

.... " ... But I’ll just keep saying it: If we don’t have Sen. Manchin, we’re going to have somebody really, really, really extreme in his seat.

"Look, I’m a liberal Democrat. Always have been. But some of these people bitching about Manchin can’t see political reality straight. Six percent of adults in this country identify as “progressive.” Only 11 or 12 percent of Democrats identify as progressive. So let’s just meet in the middle and say something like 7 or 8 percent of the country agrees with the progressive left. This ain’t a goddamn debate anymore. Someone like Manchin is closer to the mainstream than a lot of these people think, and pretending like he isn’t won’t help the cause."

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[LakeArenal]

1. EXCEPT, James, his voters want the stuff Manchump is against...

So, keep Manchimp happy? Not what the larger % want?

[lagomorph777]

3. Exactly. Carville is the one spouting political idiocy.

[UTUSN]

6. "spouting political idiocy" - authentic Dems, CARVILLE/BEGALA, don't do that.

[lagomorph777]

18. OK. He's seriously mistaken in the strategy he is recommending.

Candidates have to support the positions of the voters they are courting. Manchin does not do that, if you look at the polls, and Carville is mistaken to endorse Manchin's actions.

[UTUSN]

23. Thanks for mitigating on zapping authentic Dems CARVILLE/BEGALA. While I dislike MANCHIN, voters

elected him, so in some form he is perceived by them as supporting their positions. CARVILLE/BEGALA do not say they "endorse MANCIN's actions." CARVILLE, very specifically here labels himself as a Liberal, which is unquestioned, now or before, and would by definition choose other actions than MANCHIN's. He is speaking generally about MANCHIN as somehow (beats me) fitting in within the Dem umbrella.

While I consider MANCHIN to be a pain in various of my body parts, I have to live with his "D" label as long as he's applying it to himself.

[LakeArenal]

24. That was then. Now polls say his voters are unhappy with his bs.

[UTUSN]

25. Repeating, am speaking *generally* of him as a Dem with the label he uses & was elected with.

I have zero specific knowledge of the W. VA ins and outs. If he were running today, I suspect (generally) that he would be re-elected with the "D" on him. And whatever else the latest status of his polling, after he was elected they elected the wingnut a-hole governor, no?

Really, I'm not qualified to engage in this kind of discussion in the weeds. This is just another example of my posting something never dreaming it would turn into a thing.

[LakeArenal]

26. Guess you hit a nerve

[LenaBaby61]

17. Carville needs to STFU. He's past his sell date.

[CentralMass]

2. Horseshit. Moving the party to suit Manchin is not a winning strategy

The policies that the President and the other 48 Democrats are trying to pass are popular .

[Miguelito Loveless]

4. Not a fan of either man

[UTUSN]

8. One of our Dem characteristics is beating ourselves up.

[padah513]

5. "If we don't have Sen. Manchin, we're going to have somebody really... extreme in his seat."

If Governor Justice of WV runs for Senate we’re going to have somebody really extreme in his seat anyway, so why can't he tell us what he wants and stop moving the goalposts?

[Celerity]

9. Old swampy sage rat is a one trick pony. All he ever does is turn everything into one

giant left-punching hippy kickabout. What a whingey bayou snowflake he has become.

He always was a gobby bloke, but has become increasing insufferable in his years of decline, in his drifting into the gloaming of hackneyed irrelevance.

Manchin is not blocking proggy stuff only, he is blocking stuff that ALL the rest of the party (except for his obstructionist teammate, Curtsy) support, including even his fellow conservadems, like the atm embattled Cuellar.

[Tommymac]

10. Hey Carville, it's your turn up in shuffleboard.

Sad man.

He hates it's not all about him anymore. And his policy views are straight out of the 1990's.

I like James - he is funny - but never been a big fan of his strategies. He got lucky with President Clinton thanks to Ross Perot. Not that I am complaining.

[BeckyDem]

11. lol

What a shock that corporate media keeps these two going.

[WHITT]

12. He's STILL Behind The Curve

[brooklynite]

13. West Virginia PVI (Partisan Vote Index): R+23

You will NOT get a more liberal Democrat elected in West Virginia. You CAN get a more conservative Republican elected in West Virginia.

[Doc Sportello]

14. Where does he get those numbers?

The number in the Democratic party is more like 40 to 50 percent.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/17/liberals-make-up-largest-share-of-democratic-voters/

In other words, a plurality of Democratic voters identify as liberal.

[kimbutgar]

16. I have never liked him and that statement today reinforced my opinion

His wife has really been a big influence over him in his right wing ideology while claiming to be Democratic. He isn’t a “ liberal “ Democratic analyst but another right Wong propagandist under the cloak of their bs.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he voted for assolini in 2020.

[Act_of_Reparation]

19. "Look I'm a liberal Democrat"

Says dude who brought predictive policing to New Orleans.

[aocommunalpunch]

20. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Same ole same ole. "Liberal Democrat"? GTFOH.

[Duncan Grant]

21. Says the affluent-straight-white-male with no skin in the game. He's clueless.

Same game, different name — eh, Carville?

[lame54]

22. If you pull the knife out you'll bleed to death...

Manchin is the knife

We need him in there but it hurts like hell

And we shouldn't have been stabbed the first place