General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Rude Pundit: One More Time: Nearly Every Parent Is Too Fucking Dumb to Decide on School Curricu
Last edited Sat Jan 29, 2022, 11:52 AM - Edit history (1)
https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2022/01/one-more-time-nearly-every-parent-is.htmlThe Rude Pundit
Proudly lowering the level of political discourse
1/28/2022
One More Time: Nearly Every Parent Is Too Fucking Dumb to Decide on School Curriculum
snip//
In Florida, the state legislature is considering two bills, both recently voted out of committees: one would prevent teachers from discussing anything related to LGBTQ topics and allow parents to sue a school if a teacher does; the other forces educators to "objectively" teach everything and not do or say anything that might make a student "feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race, color, sex, or national origin." Think about that from the perspective of a teacher. You've already got parents screaming at you every time you give their tender babe a grade below A. You've got administrators demanding you do more and more work with assessment and planning. You have to buy toilet paper for the school with your own money. You have to teach so that students can do well on annual tests that lawmakers demand they take. And now you've gotta gauge if talking about Ruby Bridges to your 5th graders in Social Studies is going to cause distress? Fuck that. Why bother? And who the fuck are parents and legislators to tell you how to do your fucking job?
By the way, what if not teaching about, say, Ruby Bridges causes distress to Black students? What if whitewashing that history gives them feelings of anguish? But, of course, these bills are written by people who don't give a shit about the feelings of non-white students or LGBTQ students. They are strictly for parents who think they know better than teachers and they fucking don't. But expertise doesn't matter any more in this stupid country where some troglodyte grunting on a YouTube video or podcast has more authority and sway than people who devoted their lives to something.
snip//
Importantly, our parents respected the teachers. Those oil field workers and store clerks and shrimp boat workers didn't try to fuck with the schools just because of their beliefs (and, besides, the Supreme Court had recently slapped down Louisiana on a creationism law). Parents who gave a damn were at-home partners with the schools, helping their kids get their homework done and supporting the efforts of the teachers. And, to be honest, a good many parents just didn't care.
It wasn't perfect. There were conversations and conflicts. There were shitty parents and shitty teachers. But, mostly, teachers got to do their fucking jobs without a bunch of assholes telling them they know better.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)A cult is a cult.
MissMillie
(38,553 posts)Rather than a meeting or phone call with the teacher, the organize to "storm" the school board meeting--usually over materials with which they have no familiarity or experience.
I have no problem w/ parents getting involved with their kids' education, but it never starts with them learning about the curriculum and materials in advance and then TALKING to the educators about the material, the lesson plans and what the child is expected to learn.
And of course, there's always the option of checking the kids' homework and talking it over with the kid.
Won't happen. The Right needs their fix of outrage.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)in the matrix.
And its all free of charge
download the apps and instant outrage connection is made to millions of always outraged voters.
Then send your Outrage Swarm into the virtual world to threaten and terrorize those who are not usually outraged, but inexplicably remain in the matrix with their own Outrage machines directly connected to the source.
Bettie
(16,095 posts)you know, when they talk about what they did so far, what direction they are moving next, and how the kid is doing socially and academically.
I have never missed a conference and the few times I've had concerns, they were dealt with pretty quickly. Teachers want parents to be involved.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)at which EVERYBODY is an expert:
1. Medicine: because everybody has an Aunt Ruthie or a neighbor or a friend who knows a guy that's had every possible ailment or disease - and THEY alone know more about it than some white-coated geek who spent 12 years actually studying the stuff.......
2. Education: because everybody's been in school (even if it was only to the 8th grade) and again, they KNOW a whole lot more about education than those geeks that 'only teach because they want their summers off.'
And the internet has given all of them their degrees and licenses.....
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Policing, Pharmaceuticals, why the earth goes around the Sun
Long list actually.
Why bother with universities if everyone is an internet expert on everything and can discuss recent breakthroughs for example in all the fields of expertise with billions of equal experts in everything?
Intellectualism is not the enemy of the not intellectual, intellectuals made the Twitter machine you idiots all love, for example. And thst car u drive in etc. etc. etc.
P.s
by you and didnt mean u
thats another huge thing ofc
misunderstanding on social media
when isnt something misunderstood?
scarletlib
(3,411 posts)Totally wrong. I have nothing but tremendous respect and admiration for teachers. I learned so much from them even the occasional bad one.
sop
(10,167 posts)better than scientists. We shouldn't question their views on history and biology.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)slingsam
(370 posts)JT45242
(2,266 posts)I was a HS science teacher for 20 years. I have left the profession because if this kind of shit and taking away binding arbitration so crazy scho board members could make your life hell.
One if the intended consequences of these laws is that only people so racist to believe that the laws are good or too dumb to be a good teacher will stay or enter the profession.
Why would someone smart enough to make it through organic chemistry, physics, and calculus choose a profession where a religious fanatic can get you fired? If you were listening in your college history and econ classes and understood that history is driven by money, why would you teach?
I know many teachers who are contemplating leaving the profession, if they can afford to. Some will try to hide out in the classroom until they can retire. But rest assured the quality of people willing to go into the thankless job of teaching will greatly decline as a result of these laws.
mgardener
(1,816 posts)Asked parents to call and report schools that were making their children wear masks.
There is a mask mandate that got knocked down in court but there was an appeal.
She created a LOT of confusion.
It is so hypocritical of a party who abhors " big government" yet turns around and uses big government to their advance their agenda.
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)Whaddayaexpect?
paleotn
(17,912 posts)I've been blasted here for posting that, but I don't give a shit. Besides the social development aspects, unless one is a trained and licensed educator, one has no business homeschooling one's children. Period. And for every success story the "blasters" throw at me, I've got a whole case of "Madison Cawthorns" to throw back at them.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)49jim
(560 posts)as an elementary teacher, elementary school principal and adjunct community college instructor, I am very glad that I don't have to deal with those issues on a daily basis.However, it's sad to watch, the continued demonization of educators.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)Let the experts do what they do...please! Like any scholarly discipline, education has tons of peer reviewed research behind it. Parents and politicians simply have their assholes from which to pull their "wisdom."
niyad
(113,279 posts)My OP on this su ject pales in comparison.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)involves. Most know little outside a field or two that they might have been interested in when they were in school. Lastly, our history classes have always been greatly skewed toward a belief in European superiority and the many myths about American history designed to cover up the slightest hint of anything negative about our past.