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Celerity

(43,485 posts)
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:31 AM Feb 2022

The Liberal Patriot: The Left Is Blowing Its Big Opportunity

And They’re Taking the Democrats Down with Them

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-left-is-blowing-its-big-opportunity

For forty years or so the left has been preaching against neoliberalism—the view that capitalism and markets should mostly be left alone to generate prosperity with only modest regulation and a frugal welfare state. For forty years the left has polemicized against this economic model, frequently despairing that they could ever get through to ordinary voters, particularly working class voters, who, the left said, were duped by political elites who either promoted this model or were afraid to challenge it.

Well a funny thing happened in the wake of the Great Recession, a worldwide pandemic and persistent, maddening economic inequality: ordinary voters, including working class voters, are sick of neoliberalism. They’ve had it and they’re ready for something different. The answer to the left’s prayers right? The opportunity—finally!—to push the American economic model in their preferred direction by building up the mass support the left has always lacked.

A great opportunity, yes, and also an opportunity that’s being impressively blown by today’s left and, in the process, is taking the Democratic party down with them. At the very moment when neoliberalism has been comprehensively discredited, the left has become more and more associated with unpopular sociocultural issues and less and less with solving the problems of working class people. This has branded the left as a movement out of touch with the concerns and language of ordinary voters—a movement that is using its increased influence within the Democratic party to promote pet causes and interfere with effective governance. This is undermining the Democrats’ ability to garner mass support for the very economic transition the left has been promoting for forty years.

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These commitments are increasingly driven by what is now referred to as identity politics. This form of politics originated in the 1960s movements that sought to eliminate discrimination against and establish equal treatment and access for women and for racial and sexual minorities. In evolving to the present day, the focus has mutated into an attempt to impose a worldview that emphasizes multiple, intersecting levels of oppression (“intersectionality”) based on group identification. In place of promoting universal rights and principles—the traditional remit of the left--advocates now police others on the left to uncritically embrace this intersectional approach, insist on an arcane vocabulary for speaking about these purportedly oppressed groups, and prohibit discourse based on logic and evidence to evaluate the assertions of those who claim to speak on the groups’ behalf.

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Ten Things We Now Know About the Nonwhite Working Class Vote in 2020

Danger Signs for Democrats

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/ten-things-we-now-know-about-the-62a



The Democrats’ Hispanic Voter Problem

It's Not As Bad As You Think—It’s Worse

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-hispanic-voter-problem-dfc



The Democrats’ Coming Asian Voter Problem

It's Not Just Hispanics Anymore

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-coming-asian-voter
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The Liberal Patriot: The Left Is Blowing Its Big Opportunity (Original Post) Celerity Feb 2022 OP
Some people long for a big daddy Chainfire Feb 2022 #1
When the rich get richer no matter what, all is well. Kid Berwyn Feb 2022 #2
Unnn, dems can walk and chew gum at the same time. It's not popular to torture and murder people uponit7771 Feb 2022 #3
the most radical of the left's initiatives are being used to holistically frame the entire party Celerity Feb 2022 #5
Unfortunately this behavior is reinforced by Blue State intellectuals... brooklynite Feb 2022 #7
This is what jumped out at me comradebillyboy Feb 2022 #4
Hate to say this but I agree Freddie Feb 2022 #8
Really hurt? dpibel Feb 2022 #12
Since 1932 SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2022 #14
When we take the bait on their culture war MissMillie Feb 2022 #6
from the same author Celerity Feb 2022 #9
Wish I could rec this post n/t SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2022 #15
Should be obvious to anyone paying attention. Good OP. Fix The Stupid Feb 2022 #10
K & R jalan48 Feb 2022 #11
Well that's what you get when groupthink and internal group bullying is allowed DSandra Feb 2022 #13

Kid Berwyn

(14,950 posts)
2. When the rich get richer no matter what, all is well.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:44 AM
Feb 2022

…The system is working as designed.

ETA: Trickle Down, since 1981, the Law of the Land.

uponit7771

(90,356 posts)
3. Unnn, dems can walk and chew gum at the same time. It's not popular to torture and murder people
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:45 AM
Feb 2022

... in front of children and a video camera.

Biden has made it clear that trickle down stupidity is over, our message mechanics on it might not be where it should but that doesn't mean leaving the other prominent issue on the sideline.

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
5. the most radical of the left's initiatives are being used to holistically frame the entire party
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:52 AM
Feb 2022

It is reeking havoc with multiple parts of our electoral coalition, such as independents, Latinos of multiple backgrounds (far from just crazy RW Cubans in FL), and Asians, etc.

brooklynite

(94,698 posts)
7. Unfortunately this behavior is reinforced by Blue State intellectuals...
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:59 AM
Feb 2022

...who see African-Americans as a monolithic voting bloc driven solely by the issue of police violence and Hispanics as a monolithic bloc driven by immigration policy (and "Latinx" honorifics).

comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
4. This is what jumped out at me
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:52 AM
Feb 2022
the left has become more and more associated with unpopular sociocultural issues and less and less with solving the problems of working class people. This has branded the left as a movement out of touch with the concerns and language of ordinary voters—a movement that is using its increased influence within the Democratic party to promote pet causes and interfere with effective governance.


And I think it's a valid criticism. The whole "defund the police" movement championed by a certain group of Democratic politicians is a perfect example.

Freddie

(9,273 posts)
8. Hate to say this but I agree
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:04 PM
Feb 2022

“Defund the police” is a HORRIBLE message and really hurt us in 2020. And if I get into an argument about abortion on FB somebody always starts going off about “men can have babies too”, like that’s really relevant to the issue. We should stick to real issues and not make things worse by pushing their buttons about some things. Just my opinion.

dpibel

(2,852 posts)
12. Really hurt?
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:55 PM
Feb 2022

I have this impression that in 2020 Democrats won the presidency, retained their majority in the House, and regained control of the Senate.

I suppose we could conjecture that, but for the terrible effects of "defund the police" Democrats would have done even better. But I'd need to see some evidence to believe that.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
14. Since 1932
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:08 PM
Feb 2022

(23 Presidential elections), only six times has the party that won the Presidency lost seats in the House. And only once has the winning Presidential party lost more seats than Democrats did in 2020 (-22 in 1960 v. -13 in 2020).

So yes, I would say "really hurt".

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
9. from the same author
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:08 PM
Feb 2022
Democrats, Not Republicans, Need to Defuse the Culture Wars

Because It’s Republicans Who Benefit

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/democrats-not-republicans-need-to

It’s not exactly a secret the Republicans are running hard against the Democrats on sociocultural issues like crime, immigration, ideology in the schools and cancel culture. Their strategy is to combine attacks on these perceived vulnerabilities with an indictment of Democrats’ failure to return normalcy to the economy and thoroughly contain the pandemic. The goal is to paint a picture of the Democrats as an incompetent party distracted by secondary issues out of step with normal voters.

The Democrats’ standard response to Republican sociocultural attacks is to insist that the problem areas identified by the GOP aren’t really problems. They are fake issues cynically pumped up by right wing media to scare voters who would otherwise be responding favorably to the Democrats’ superior performance and policy ideas. The apotheosis of this was Terry McAuliffe’s robotic pronouncement of voter concern about schools in the Virginia gubernatorial contest as responding to “racist dog whistles”.

This seems unlikely to work. Crime is a genuine problem; voters care about it and think Democrats are doing a terrible job. Ditto for immigration. As for schools and education, an area where Democrats are rapidly losing their traditional advantage, they seem incapable of engaging with the actual concerns that are animating voters. In Virginia, voters who were already upset about parental burdens and academic deficits from extended school closures became additionally concerned that an emerging focus on “social justice” pedagogy and policies was detracting from learning traditional academic subjects and rewarding high achievement. As a memo by ALG Research on focus groups with suburban Virginia Biden-Youngkin voters noted:

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Thinking about these concerns as responses to racist dog whistles seems inadequate. But it is emblematic of the default Democratic response to Republican attacks in sociocultural areas. The primary impulse is to engage these attacks on the level of the worst possible interpretation of how they could appeal to voters (racism, etc.) and push back on that. But that leaves the concerns of most persuadable voters unaddressed and the field open for Republicans.

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Fix The Stupid

(948 posts)
10. Should be obvious to anyone paying attention. Good OP.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022


The "ACAB" stuff, the "Defund the Police" stuff, the "all white people are racist" stuff - all losing positions.

Wake up now or it's over.

DSandra

(999 posts)
13. Well that's what you get when groupthink and internal group bullying is allowed
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:05 PM
Feb 2022

Groups of people working with each other without proper awareness of the flaws of being in groups can be disastrous. You end up with an echo chamber and with people being in a bubble and less and less attached to the greater reality and the realization of what is truly going on.

P.S. I have a lot more to lose than others here because I'm transgender and bi and the religious right would love the opportunity to hunt us down literally without consequence.

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