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Botany

(70,503 posts)
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 06:17 AM Feb 2022

My half baked theory on those protesting Canadian truckers.

Near as I can tell Russia was helping with their bots and trolls by spreading disinformation*, rich right wing
Americans will helping to pay for "it," and shits like Rand Paul and Fox News were cheerleading the blockades
in hopes that it would cripple the US economy so they could then blame Joe Biden for the hard times that
Americans would have in a stunted economy. Kind of like DeSantis and Abbott helping to spread the virus so
they can blame Joe Biden for not getting the disease under control.

* This disinformation was well targeted to right wingers using platforms like Facebook.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16351237

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My half baked theory on those protesting Canadian truckers. (Original Post) Botany Feb 2022 OP
That is exactly what it is. 2naSalit Feb 2022 #1
I think the problems with Russia right now and the rise in Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #2
Recd! Cmon, Let's get this on greatest! Nt raccoon Feb 2022 #3
Just need one more! Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #4
Don't forget the help from the media wnylib Feb 2022 #8
They've been out to get him ever since he got us out of Afghanistan. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #12
For sure. NPR does an Afghanistan story wnylib Feb 2022 #13
Absolutely! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #5
Definitely disinformation, but unfortunately homegrown crazies are good at that too Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #6
Putin, Truckers, AND corporate greed! sarchasm Feb 2022 #7
Blaming things on Americans is a part of Canadian Heritage knightmaar Feb 2022 #9
Yes, I Trudeau is hated by right wing white racists all around the world JI7 Feb 2022 #10
Ah, yes. Alberta. paleotn Feb 2022 #18
Not so sure your idea is "half-baked". llmart Feb 2022 #11
Your analysis is good. But please, how can you forget to mention Ted Cruz? Escurumbele Feb 2022 #14
" lich?" Botany Feb 2022 #20
There is literally a "Tamara Lich" leading this convoy. knightmaar Feb 2022 #23
Yes, that holds water. /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #15
Yep. LuvLoogie Feb 2022 #16
Similar to my thoughts. From a Russian perspective, notice the timing. paleotn Feb 2022 #17
Nothing half baked about it! Emile Feb 2022 #19
Pretty much business as usual since 2015. yardwork Feb 2022 #21
Pretty much business as usual since 2009 when President Obama took office Botany Feb 2022 #22
Such fools. They know not what they do. yardwork Feb 2022 #24
We got to get the ogliarches I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #25

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
2. I think the problems with Russia right now and the rise in
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 06:26 AM
Feb 2022

oil prices have a similar goal. The Russians and the Saudis love Trump, and would do anything to put him back in power. They and the RW politicians are all working together to sink the Biden presidency.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
8. Don't forget the help from the media
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:34 AM
Feb 2022

in trying to sink the Biden presidency.

I have decided that NPR stands for Nationally Paid Republican.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
12. They've been out to get him ever since he got us out of Afghanistan.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:50 AM
Feb 2022

It was a gravy train for some very powerful people, and they'll never forgive him for bringing it to a halt. There are still little stories that come out about how awful it's been there since we left and how much they needed us. There are people who still haven't given up hope that we'll go back on a humanitarian mission. I would say that it's unbelievable, but I'm surprised by hardly anything anymore.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
13. For sure. NPR does an Afghanistan story
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 08:01 AM
Feb 2022

at least twice a week, sometimes more, like twice in one day. There was a story early this morning that involved a discussion about the US not establishing normalized relations with the Taliban.

I suspect that, when Trump sold out the Afghan government to the Taliban, those corporate interests were drooling over the opportunity to start up the endless war all over again. Probably had projected budget plans for escalation drawn up before Biden was sworn in.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
6. Definitely disinformation, but unfortunately homegrown crazies are good at that too
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 06:57 AM
Feb 2022

Like Brian Peckford and Ezra Levant.



sarchasm

(1,012 posts)
7. Putin, Truckers, AND corporate greed!
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:22 AM
Feb 2022

Imagine the hubris it takes to wish Joe fails so much that you’re willing to bring everyone’s livelihood to a screeching halt. ….the sound of trucks braking, tanks rolling, the snarl of greed…

knightmaar

(748 posts)
9. Blaming things on Americans is a part of Canadian Heritage
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:35 AM
Feb 2022

However.

These are our own homegrown, racist assholes.

Pat King and White Replacement theory (change your name to "Ching Chong Chang Ching Chong" ) and our Alberta Separatists.

They might be taking money from the U.S. and a few hateful cues, but we have our own shitty racists who want to make more of themselves than they are, and we've had decades of police officers being white supremacists (it manifests itself more in the brutality to our native people...).

So, yeah, I'm sure the foreign influence made it worse, but this is still our house to clean up.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
10. Yes, I Trudeau is hated by right wing white racists all around the world
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:39 AM
Feb 2022

I don't think people realize how big the anti Trudeau thing is.

Yes, the US racists and Russians and the usual crowd got behind it but it did happen because of Canada's own right wing trash .

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
18. Ah, yes. Alberta.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 09:08 AM
Feb 2022

Our friends in Halifax aren't terribly fond of Alberta. Well, in a nice, Canadian sort of way.

Tell you what, lets swap Alberta for New England. Deal?

llmart

(15,536 posts)
11. Not so sure your idea is "half-baked".
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:42 AM
Feb 2022

I think it's fairly close to summing up why these protests are taking place. These are not spur-of-the-moment events that sprung up overnight. They were planned and orchestrated.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
14. Your analysis is good. But please, how can you forget to mention Ted Cruz?
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 08:14 AM
Feb 2022

Give credit where credit is due...he also opened his mouth about the truckers and we know that when Cuz opens his mouth crap also comes out. What a lich that guy is, and Rand Paul is another lich.

Botany

(70,503 posts)
22. Pretty much business as usual since 2009 when President Obama took office
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 09:52 AM
Feb 2022

Vice President Biden told me that during the transition, he was warned not to expect any bipartisan cooperation on major votes. “I spoke to seven different Republican Senators who said, ‘Joe, I’m not going to be able to help you on anything,’ ” he recalled. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was, ‘For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’ ” Biden said. The Vice President said he hasn’t even told Obama who his sources were, but Bob Bennett of Utah and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania both confirmed they had conversations with Biden along those lines.

https://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/

These right wing mother fuckers (both here and in Canada) would rather blow up everything then let "the libs" get
a victory. They are Pyrrhic Terrorists and as long as they got money, hate talk radio & TV, and a base that will
drink up their lies they will keep up trying to hurt "us" to keep power as an ever shrinking minority of the population.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
25. We got to get the ogliarches
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 01:46 AM
Feb 2022

And force them down to earth. And cap thier incomes a lot.

We need our taxes to be ours not thiers to plunder.

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