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PJMcK

(22,059 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:10 PM Mar 2022

Two years ago today

Two years ago today, I was reading some news from Asia about a mysterious flu-like illness that had cropped up. This was notable to me because I often work in NYC's Soho which is near Chinatown. I'm a regular at several restaurants there and some of the waiters know me. They had spoken (quietly) about this strange ailment and they were worried about any racial implications.

When I hit upon a story that suggested that this new virus may have come from a market, I was suddenly reminded of other diseases that sprung up but weren't acknowledged by the authorities until it was late in the game.

I told my wife of my concerns and we decamped to our little house in the mountains. The day after we arrived, we went to the supermarket and stocked up on food, dry goods, cleaning products and paper products. I think we were solely responsible for the initial lack of toilet paper-- we bought a lot!

Who knew that we'd be basically staying here for two years?!

Perhaps if we had a president at the time who had a brain and problem-solving abilities we'd have had a different history.

The world has changed in these two years. We'll never go back to our old "normal" but we'll develop our new "normal."

I have a foreboding sense that there's something else that's bad lurking underneath.

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Two years ago today (Original Post) PJMcK Mar 2022 OP
Yep. I'd just started back with an organization I'd been at before underpants Mar 2022 #1
Some knucklehead made an early prediction of 500 cases gratuitous Mar 2022 #2
Now you tell us lame54 Mar 2022 #3
Two years ago Retrograde Mar 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Mar 2022 #5
the MSM was already talking about it the first week of January 2020 Celerity Mar 2022 #6
You're right PJMcK Mar 2022 #7
If it was 2 years ago today that you heard about it - Ms. Toad Mar 2022 #8
Just curious PJMcK Mar 2022 #9
In the January - February time frame, Ms. Toad Mar 2022 #11
+1. I remember dalton99a Mar 2022 #10

underpants

(182,957 posts)
1. Yep. I'd just started back with an organization I'd been at before
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:16 PM
Mar 2022

At staff meetings, in person, I started asking what are we planning on this. My boss of bosses here is a staunch Repub - it was basically dismissed. Someone at HQ was taking it seriously though.

My wife was crunching numbers and was well aware of this from February. I told everyone in the staff meetings “this is going to be WAY WORSE than you think”. I was meant with apathy and some disregard.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Some knucklehead made an early prediction of 500 cases
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:33 PM
Mar 2022

I heard that and thought, "This isn't going to be like Ebola, where we had a competent government in place. With the leadership we have now, it's going to be very bad." I took no satisfaction from being right.

Retrograde

(10,165 posts)
4. Two years ago
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 06:46 PM
Mar 2022

I was having a lot of medical tests and procedures: every time I went in to Kaiser they asked if I had been to China recently, or been around anyone who had. By this time, the county was talking about recommending that people 65 and over stay home, and the local senior center had started cutting back on some of its services. By March 20th the entire Bay Area shut down.

Dear Leader tried to ignore Covid at first, then made things worse by putting the Amazing Wonder Jared in charge. Not exactly good times.

Response to PJMcK (Original post)

Celerity

(43,615 posts)
6. the MSM was already talking about it the first week of January 2020
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 07:46 PM
Mar 2022

example


A mysterious virus is making China (and the rest of Asia) nervous. It's not SARS, so what is it?

January 6, 2020

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/06/health/china-pneumonia-intl-hnk/index.html


WHO Timeline - COVID-19

https://www.who.int/news/item/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19




PJMcK

(22,059 posts)
7. You're right
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 08:49 PM
Mar 2022

It was part of the background noise and I feel fortunate that we got out of the line of fire early.

I honestly didn't know what was going on. I just felt that it could be trouble. Since we have the "escape pod" of our mountain house, we ran away to shelter there.

We followed the protocols religiously. We wore masks and gloves, at least at the beginning. We got our vaccinations as soon as we could then the booster shot. Thankfully, we haven't gotten sick.

The media was starting to tell the story but so often, there's so much news that some things don't get the attention the should.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
8. If it was 2 years ago today that you heard about it -
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 09:46 PM
Mar 2022

You're late to the game.

I was blasting the warning sirens here in late January (and getting blasted for being an alarmist).

PJMcK

(22,059 posts)
9. Just curious
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 09:48 AM
Mar 2022

What did you do two years ago to prepare for the oncoming pandemic?

I was frightened by the then-unknown disease. I was afraid that borders would be closed or regulated if the illness became wide-spread, (we didn't want to be forced to stay in Manhattan). I was scared that our government wouldn't be able to manage a global pandemic with Trump at the helm. I was worried about how this dangerous disease would affect my business and the economy.

Ms. Toad, I've read your posts on DU for years. How did you prepare for the past couple of years? How are you preparing for the next couple of years?

Be safe today and every day. I really don't think this is over. The rush to re-open feels forced and premature. As I wrote in the OP, I have a sense that something else is lurking underneath.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
11. In the January - February time frame,
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:20 PM
Mar 2022

First - doing research. I've had two cancer diagnoses; my daughter has a liver disease which will most likely require a transplant. When confronted with scary medical things, I review everything I can get my hands on (medical articles, support groups, etc.). Knowledge is a comfort for me, even when there is an emotionally challenging prognosis. Beyond tending to my emotional health, mostly sounding the alarm - trying to get others to understand what was coming at us, at what pace. Trying to encourage my workplace to push pepole to do symptom checks and stay home if they had cold-like symptoms, educate others that the risk was not just to older folks, and that it was not just the flu.

I started wearing masks just about this time in 2020, after reviewing the literature as to effectiveness (yes - cloth masks are effective to protect the wearer; some are as effective as N95 masks. The research supporting the latter assertion was not available in March 2020, although research suporting the former was).

I didn't do a lot of personal physical preparation. I did one significant shopping trip for food staples (we had all the TP we needed for nearly 2 years, since we buy in bulk when it is on sale). I expected to be able to shop - just less frequently. (I shopped in person about every other week during the first wave of the pandemic). I shifted some of my shopping to online. I stopped eating anywhere but my home or office.

I am an assistant dean at a law school, so my job wasn't in jeopardy due to the pandemic.

As for the next couple of years - I'll be watching the numbers. The rush to re-open is political, and premature. Basing community recommendations for masking on hospital census is assinine. Hospitalization is a trailing indicator of disease, so by the time the census numbers rise enough to suggest mask wearing again, the number of people who will need to be hospitalized in two weeks will be double or triple that number - and, since they are already infected (and infecting others), it is too late to prevent overrunning our hospitals. And the studies on **at least** short term brain damage for mild (even asymptomatic) cases is terrifying. Since my daughter had COVID around the time my spouse's executive functioning ability took a nosedive, my guess is that my spouse has an asymptomatic case. (She has existing executive functioning deficits - and that is an area of functioning damaged by COVID.) No one knows what the 5, 10, decades-long impact of COVID will be. Will it be like Polio and Chicken Pox - raising its ugly head decades later, or like the flu, which is generally over and done with. We just don't know, even for mild cases, so we should still focus on prevention.

That said, I'm close to comfortable taking my mask off except for crowded indoor spaces. There were 13 reported new cases in my 539,000 person county yesterday. That's about 34 cases/100,000 people total in 2 weeks. My cutoff is 50 - so as soon as the cases from a week ago (in the 20s) work their way through the two weeks we'll be at 50. (Today's number is 64, taking into account about a week of numbers above 20 cases per day)

I'll keep tracking - and **when** it goes above 50 I'll start masking again (or when I travel to an area where the transmission is higher - or the vaccination rate lower), and I'll stop eating with people I don't live with. If the next variant which comes around is omicron-like in terms of infection, I'll wear KN95. Otherwise, as long as the transmisson rate is reasonably low I'll be back to cloth masks (since I don't like the impact on the environment of disposables). But I'll still expect to be able to shop as I need - and if it feels too risky, I'll shop by mail.

I retire in 23 days, so I have little that will require me to go out of the house if I don't feel safe - and plenty to keep me busy at home. (I've been working 80-100 hours/week since 2018 - and my housekeeping has suffered. I'm not an emotional hoarder - I'm able to toss stuff I don't need. BUT - I do need time to make a conscious decision before tossing things, and I haven't had that time for quite a while. And my spouse's odd sorting practices, which either prioritizes potential junk or mingles potential junk with the most recently worn clothing, for example, make it more challenging (that executive functioning deficit). I've plowed through the records I inherited from the past 20 years of deans/directors who left in a huff with chaotic mixed piles of crap and gems in 5 days. I'm looking forward to reclaiming a couple of rooms in my house!)

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