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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid anyone see Joe Manchin on morning Joe today?
He was blah blah blahing about progressives wanting this and that and suddenly Mike Barnacle came on and asked him why West Virginia is the poorest state and its residents are suffering such hardships. Old Manchin got real defensive and stuttered through some dumb answer.
He must think everyone buys his bs.
walkingman
(7,673 posts)OhioTim
(259 posts)are you talking about?
walkingman
(7,673 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Disgusting!
AllyCat
(16,239 posts)mahina
(17,717 posts)McCain gave the famous thumbs up but mansion voted for it too
His vote was just as key
Im pissed at him too and hes gotten worse. Still.
AllyCat
(16,239 posts)Now he votes for plans that help his stock portfolio.
certainot
(9,090 posts)don't know what talk radio is
FarPoint
(12,466 posts)that they stop catering to this obstructionist Manchin....people are suffering...
k8conant
(3,030 posts)that's his shtick.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)as always, they were far more polite to that self-serving prick than I would be. But at least he was made to squirm, and babble nonsense that was obviously BS.
BeyondGeography
(39,387 posts)Ffs
Claustrum
(4,846 posts)Like republicans, they are just playing to their base. They don't care if we buy his BS. Manchin knows he is the best chance any democrats has in WV so he doesn't care to cater to them. He knows democrats in WV have to support him or they will have a republican in that seat. And frankly, I think he is ready to be voted out (like Sinema) when they are up for re-election. Both of them lost too much democratic support to be re-elected.
Edit: And a lot of "independent" or so called "swing voters" buy this kind of "wasteful spending" BS from the right. They have no problem to blow up the budget for tax cuts or military spending. But when it comes to help for everyday Americans, they immediately default to their "too expensive" stance.
jimfields33
(16,032 posts)From project to project. We must admit that they did get that passed.
Claustrum
(4,846 posts)jimfields33
(16,032 posts)Celerity
(43,607 posts)of pre-existing transportation programmes.
As of today, Manchin and Sinema have gutted over 90% of Biden's original $6.1 trillion new spend framework between the BBB (zero out of $3.5 trillion as Manchin has blocked it all, and we have no clue what Sinema would do in terms of voting anyway) and the BIF (only $550 billion out of $2.6 trillion).
The Infrastructure Plan: Whats In and Whats Out (it's brutal)
Biden's original plan:
What was left after they took a 2 trillion USD hatchet to it
SunImp
(2,228 posts)Hopefully every American that doesn't have their heads stuck up their ass sees this
They may be too stupid to understand it, though
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Claustrum
(4,846 posts)up for re-election. Like I said, he lost too much democratic support to be re-elected there imo.
As far as your speculation, I am not going to address them because everyone is entitled to their opinions, yours and mine. I am not going to call it shameful like you did to mine.
All I am going to comment on though, is that AOC is popular within some democratic circles and with nation-wide appeal, that doesn't mean she will win in more purple-ish district or red states. Don't forget that WV went for Trump over 30 points. The "democratic base" there is a lot smaller there than other states. You need to somehow pull in "independent" and crossover republican votes to win the senate seat there.
Mr. Evil
(2,856 posts)Everyone here hates Moscow Mitch. Even most run-of-the-mill republicans. I've never heard anyone say anything nice about him. Ever. It just seemed funny (in a macabre sort of way) that the elections of Moscow Mitch, Graham and Susan Collins, the polls in those races showed the candidates in a virtual dead-heat with their Democratic opponents yet, they won in landslides. Those races were, coincidentally, using ES&S to tabulate the votes.
I think you're right on the distraction thing. And I literally hate the "no Democrat other than Manchin can win in WV" meme. All any candidate has to do is tell the truth and use Manchin's own words against him to win. The DNC needs to pump money into states like WV instead of pumping money into areas that they are already a lock to win.
Meadowoak
(5,564 posts)Admits to voting for Mitch. I believe there was some hinky with the vote count.
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dflprincess
(28,086 posts)The United Mine Workers wanted him to vote for BBB. He ignored them.
Buckeyeblue
(5,504 posts)It should be the first question asked every Senator.
atreides1
(16,098 posts)Mike Barnacle asked him specific questions and Maserati Joe, failed to provide any real answers!
Manchin kept claiming that there were jobs in WV, he failed to point out that they were low wage, no benefit jobs!
And then he went a on little tirade about bringing manufacturing jobs to WV...he must have forgot that his daughter left a lot of people unemployed when she sold her pharmaceutical company and the buyers moved it out of West Virginia!
To be honest he knows that many of his constituents do buy his BS, to their own and their families detriment!!!
heckles65
(549 posts)Most of the state is unsuitable for manufacturing - or much farming. The part that is suitable - along the Kanawha - you have to contend with an aging infrastructure, and an aging population that isn't that collectively high on the educational scale.
HUAJIAO
(2,405 posts)And leaves out his wife?
And that's what it is, entertainment. A SHOW!
PCIntern
(25,611 posts)His first show was called Scarborough Company. Suggestions are made that his next show have something to do with his middle name.
To be fair, he wasnt married to Mika Mouse when he started the show. Also in fairness, the David Susskind show was called the David Susskind show and the Dick Cavett show was called the Dick Cavett show, so there is precedent. And dont forget the Mike Douglas show, the Merv Griffin show, and the Dick Van Dyke show to name a few
Sneederbunk
(14,314 posts)PCIntern
(25,611 posts)touche !!
AZLD4Candidate
(5,804 posts)Ilsa
(61,709 posts)msnbc gets a double entendre.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Off topic, but I have a mug I bought from the Biden campaign that says Cup oJoe with an image of him wearing his aviators. Its on my bookcase, across from my Hamilton mug.
Ilsa
(61,709 posts)Response to Ilsa (Reply #14)
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pwb
(11,294 posts)too?
HUAJIAO
(2,405 posts)ck4829
(35,094 posts)The media needs to bring their A-game like this all the time.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)he represents the fossil fuel industry.
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)Methinks he's on the take.
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Mad_Machine76
(24,446 posts)is so incredibly out of proportion to the actual value he contributes to the country.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)UTUSN
(70,762 posts)They might have asked some follow-ups, like when he praised President BIDEN a couple of times with wishes him success, like, Why don't you make that success happen more? and about the O.P.'s topic, he rambled on about how "the people" need to fix things!1 It's amazing how he can pull a detached demeanor without reference to all the crap he does.
XanaDUer2
(10,775 posts)He recovered his cant however
UTUSN
(70,762 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,775 posts)Rarely are they called on their bullshit.
Peregrine Took
(7,417 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,775 posts)KPN
(15,668 posts)All the fing blather about the deficit and Covid relief that put money in peoples pockets which both have zero bearing on the long-standing entrenchment of WV being one of the very poorest and least educated States in the country. He is nothing but a soul-less, self-serving glutton feeding at the corporate lobby trough. He doesnt care about people and he obviously doesnt care what we think of him. He trusts that he can always pull the wool over his constituents eyes and so far he has.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Republicans are doing a hell of a job, shitting on it by enabling your bullshit.
OMGWTF
(3,980 posts)Elect MORE AND BETTER Democrats.
Sneederbunk
(14,314 posts)Let's not blow it.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)and drive coal powered cars, Mr. Manchin would be very easy to get along with. The people of West Virginia would have their jobs - although dangerous and extremely unhealthy - back again and the local economy would flourish, at least for a little while.
We have to appease Mr. Manchin and give him everything the fossil fuel industry wants or we'll lose our solid 50/50 "majority" in the Senate.
Then we can work on reviving the buggy whip industry, another of West Virginia's aces in the hole, and life would be all bright and shiny again!
I know someone is going to need this.
Marcuse
(7,531 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)barbtries
(28,815 posts)the last time i watched morning joe someone else was president.
i've taken a sabbatical from tv news to work through the PTSD from the trump years. stay up to date via DU and print journalism primarily.
manchin is a colossal asshole. glad he got checked. i may look for the clip just for that.
ck4829
(35,094 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:51 AM - Edit history (1)
The stammering at the end and Manchin pre-emptively was going a mile a minute, presumably to make sure Barnacle wouldn't have anything else to say.
All media should take note.
jalan48
(13,901 posts)sends to the young people in the US about climate change and Democrats.
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)the average West Virginia people?
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)(part-time anyway) and it doesn't feather his nest one iota, that means it wouldn't help anyone from West Virginia. "West Virginia is me", I believe is his motto.
Rebl2
(13,575 posts)Mike. You know Mika and Joe would never say that to manchin.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,716 posts)because I can't even look at that asshole. Sorry I missed Barnacle's question though. Good thing someone on the panel had the balls to call him out. We need a lot more of that.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Go ahead, spin it as proof the "MS$M" hates Democrats for going after the biggest GOP ass suck of them all.
AllyCat
(16,239 posts)Wednesdays
(17,451 posts)fighting Ukrainians in Kharkiv.
Crowman2009
(2,503 posts)On a serious note, I wonder if Manchin had a troll farm prior to the absence of his cheerleaders?
marieo1
(1,402 posts)He is a disgusting piece of humanity.........he should just shut up and disappear from our political system forever!!!
spanone
(135,902 posts)Biophilic
(3,707 posts)It's past time to start calling these people out about their lies and hypocrisies.
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ificandream
(9,408 posts)tavernier
(12,410 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Thanks for the tip. I missed Morning Joe this morning, so I went back and watched the recording. Barnacle's question definitely knocked him for a loop. Especially the statistics about WV being at the bottom of the list in terms of child poverty and economic development; and here's this alleged Democrat doing everything he can to drag them further back into the 19th Century.
XanaDUer2
(10,775 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)I can't stand this fucker any longer.
Hopefully we won't lose any senate seats...and will very probably snag another to make him irrelevant...Pennsylvania. North Carolina. Wisconsin...and possibly Florida, Missouri and Louisiana.
Please get off your asses and VOTE!...like the country depends on it...because it does!
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Some a lot sooner than later, looking at you MITCH!
(pretend middle finger emoji is right here for MITCH!)
Caliman73
(11,754 posts)I honestly don't think he cares. He has the ability to stop or stall indefinitely, any legislation that would curtail the power of his benefactors, not to mention, that would limit his own income. He only has to face his constituents once every 6 years, and because of how the state shapes up demographically, there is little chance of him being unseated in a primary. He is nominally a Democrat, so that means that the Democratic Party HAS TO back him against a Republican
evolves
(5,403 posts)n/t
Liberal In Texas
(13,597 posts)Warpy
(111,384 posts)and it's not just people with money who think that.
Blue Owl
(50,532 posts)3 reasons why the Democrats will never be able to save America from the greedy, corporate overlords of the GOP
AverageOldGuy
(1,556 posts). . . between Manchin and a Russian oligarch?
I can't find any.